Es tut mir leid (again).
 

The bloody holiday break took me away from civilisation.

Enedwaith, I came across this silly headline in yesterday's paper:

Jewel precedes charged particle in history!

Hmm, could it be Silmarillion?

Jewel = Silmaril

preceding

Charged particle = ion.

The whole being a history of the First Age.

Like, thanks, dude!
 

Now I can safely eschew all commitments to the Quiz Room. :smokin:

neeeext...
 

I believe the next question would fall to The Saucepan Man.

Okey dokey then ...
 

Denethor? maby?

Welcome to the Downs, Vinyacoriel. :)

Unfortunately though, Denethor is not the correct answer.

A clue?
 

Like, is "abducted" literal?

A clue? But we've hardly got started.

Oh, OK then - if you insist.

No. It's part of the cryptic element. In true cryptic clue style, my literal elements are always at the beginning or end of a clue.

There we are. Two for the price of one. ;)

By the way, Nilp. Do your alter egos have PTs too? :D (Congratulations, by the way - nice choice. :) )

Hmmm . . .
 

I'm still having trouble deciphering it. Maybe I'll bring it home and have my analysis team disect it.

Vy ze vay, thanks! :) And yes, Adam has his personal title: Simply Satirical.

And mine is Nearly Nonexistent. It's obvious why.

Any takers?

Boy in agony abducted hero's father.
 

Due to Saucie's vote of confidence, here I am on a thread I've never before been to. The answer is Tuor.

Another word for 'agony' is 'torture', inside of which one can find the name of the boy, 'Tuor'. In agony, because the poor dear was enslaved by Lorgan (or perhaps the only intentional part 'agony' had to play was posing as 'torture'); abducted because he was captured while fleeing the Havons of Sirion... that part was easy. The other literal part was 'hero's father'. Tuor is the father of Earendil.

The only problem, my dear Saucepan Man, is that I'm not all together sure that I can come up with a good cryptic clue of my own. I have a feeling it might take some practice.

Fea

Well there is another problem - Tuor is not the correct answer. :p ;)

How inconvenient. I suppose my ego did need to be flicked down a few notches, but I ask you... so brutally? ;) Tell me I did well for my first ever attempt at a cryptic clue though... :)

My other guess was Turin, but I don't like that answer so much.

Boy in agony abducted hero's father.


hmmm....

Maeglin?

He was in agony from his father, then he tried to abduct Earendil, elronds father.

first time...

Sorry, neither is correct.

Somewhere near the beginning of this thread, I gave a long list of typical cryptic clues. It might be worth checking out.


Why do you think that I pointed you in this direction? ;)

Here it goes
 

Since you pointed me to this thread I suppose I'd better be polite and take a guess.

Don't laugh if I'm wrong. This is the best answer I can think of right now.

Boy- a male hobbit ("They would be small, only children to your eyes" Aragorn speaking of hobbits)

in agony abducted- a male hobbit's name found in "agony abducted"- Bungo

hero's father- Bungo is Bilbo's father, Bilbo is certainly a hero

So I'll guess Bungo.

Phantom, I have been puzzling this for over an hour, and now I suspect you're right. Since you and good ole' Fingolfin are doing so splendidly, you should come try your hands here . I'm getting bored waiting around for answer-ers. I'll even bump it to the top for you...

Sophia

You are close, phantom, but no cigar ...

i think i got it

Boy- a male hobbit ("They would be small, only children to your eyes" Aragorn speaking of hobbits)

in agony abducted- it could be Frodos parents, since they died in a boating accident, well they drowned so they were kind of missing

hero's father- Drago is Frodos father, and we all know that Frodo is a hero

so my guess would be Drago

No cigar for you either, Gil-Galad.

I might've been right before, but I just got the answer the wrong way.

If I'm not right this time then I will be quite angry with you, SP. :p

Boy- a male hobbit ("They would be small, only children to your eyes" Aragorn speaking of hobbits)

in agony abducted- What can be found in "agony abducted"? Bag End!

And who could be found in Bag End? Bungo, Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam

So which one is it?

hero's father- Bilbo and Frodo were not fathers and I don't recall any tales of Sam's children doing heroic things, so it must be Bungo.

Had you found the correct answer, phantom, then I would have awarded the thread to you, even if your reasoning was not spot on. :p ;)

By way of a further hint, you are all thinking too literally here. Only two words in the clue provide a literal clue. The rest are all cryptic.

Tell you what, as this is taking some time, here's the reasoning to follow:

Find synonyms for "boy", "agony" and "abducted" and order them according to the clues in the question to find a hero's father.

Got it!!
 

Finally! Here it is...

boy = lad

agony = pain

abducted = took

lad in pain = pa-lad-in

Paladin Took!!!! (Pippin's father)

By Jove, I think he's got it ...
 

Give that phantom a cigar! :smokin:

The thread is yours ...

:)

Thanks for showing me this thread, Sir Saucepan.

Now I have to come up with one of these things. After my class today I'll start working on it. I might not get a chance to post it this evening, but I promise it will be no later than tomorrow evening.

Well... here it goes. My first ever cryptic clue-

Elf acquires fish-breath at Georgia anti-girl rally

(yell and curse at me via pm if I did this wrong)

Of him did harpers sadly sing?
 

Gil-Galad, perchance?

Elf- self explanatory
fish-breath- Gills - Gil
Georgia - abbreviated GA
anti-girl rally - well, lads are boys? - Lad

Sophia

ps, take that gill clue over to Password... ;) ;)

Right on, Sophia. :)

Easy peasy.
 

probaly Gollum/Smeagol....i wonder if they ever did a duet...

Nope, not.

Hmm, I think that I might have it.
 

"flees in the past" = ran (the past tense of runs)
"chats in second person" = u (chatspeak for "you")
"irritating fly" = gad (a type of fly - a gadfly)

The whole being Ranugad, the translation of Hamfast, a Hobbit.

And without any clue stealing...
 

You are absolutely correct in both answer and reasonings, Saucy.

Sophia

Why thank you, Mistress of the Storm. :)

Next up:

Tom's accumulation is small but includes each flower.

Any takers?
 

Anyone ...?

Is the answer aeglos? A glossary is a sort of accummulation, and aeglos would be a small glossary that includes ea. = "each".

But I don't see where Tom comes in . . . ` :confused:

<-- Hint
 

Nope. You are in the right area with your answer, but not the reasoning.

You need to work out what Tom's accumulation might be ... :smokin:

I do believe that Tom's accumulation would be lilies... but I still have no idea what the answer might be. Hope if that's right, it helps someone out.

Lilies?
 

It's nothing to do with lilies. :p ;)