finally someone is beginning to take my day 1 observations seriously about those two orcs, yes I voted for the other one on day 1, but we just need to get rid of both of them, they are causing too much dissention in the camp. therfore I will change my vote --Faramir ++Ugluk

vote change
 

Well, looking back, mormegil's reasoning for voting for Elrond is much more...reasonable...than my reasons for voting for Galadriel, after all, a little personal annoyance shouldn't stop her from surviving.

I change my vote: --Galadriel , ++Elrond

There are five remaining in the Man tribe. Five! Count 'em. That's two more than any other tribe. They cannot be allowed to dominate the show.

Vote the soppy cheat off today, and I will be willing to consider any reasonable requests for assistance in future days.

And surely you cannot be so blind as to vote off one of the few people on the island who actually gets things done. He is Ugluk. He commands. His methods may be rather unorthodox, but his results are impressive. If it wasn't for his disciplined regime and strict rota, the remaining Survivors would be lounging about all day achieving precisely nothing.

Besides, we can't have no bad guys in the final. How dull would that be? I want to see a re-match between him and Eomer and see how the Strawhead matches up withut his Rohan buddies to back him up.

OK Saucepan, I will change my vote back to --Ugluk++Faramir if only to, in the very least, save the Lord Elrond.

Good man, and a noble cause.

If you want to get rid of one of the Orcs, I am quite happy to vote for the sly, devious one with the bad breath. But not the proud, self-confident one with the can-do attitude.

To me the Orc killed is entirely immaterial. We have a deal.

--UGLUK, ++GRISHNAKH

Er - the deal only comes into effect once Faramir is gone. :p

Hey, just imagine he's film Faramir. ;)

Blast you, Saucie. Now I'll have to find the character you identify with most, and lead a campaign against them. Perhaps they've already gone...

Oh and

--GRISHNAKH, ++UGLUK

I liked even film Faramir, after the Extended Editions...

++Elrond
He's quite boring.

That just about sums him up doesn't it. Ratings go down everytime an Elrond segment is aired. Let's get rid of him. I urge all fence sitters to go after him.

mormegil, Elves obviously make you feel insecure...

Nay, rather the mormegil sees elves as instruments that I can use to accomplish my objectives. :smokin:

Dear Spaghetti Monster, what are you people doing?! Faramir? Faramir? Mr Let-the-Hobbits-go? Mister I-don't-want-the-Ring? Mister Lord-of-Men's-Hearts?

Stop the madness. ++Ugluk.

++ELROND

The man leads a double life for goodness sake! And we know he's baddy in one of them, why not the other?

++elrond Im at school right now and it sucks. :D

Interesting products of research. It seems that those with little to say for themselves tend to conform to the elf-bashing standard, while giving insufficient reasons for so doing...

++Elrond :-)

Just to hop on the bandwagon and because I don't have time to look throught the votes..

++Elrond

If you're wondering at my disspaperence, it's because my computer was on the fritz all day yesterday and I had school this morning and I didn't get home until about twenty minutes ago, so.....

Ha!
 

I don't think I need to vote this round.

-- Folwren

I'm going to close voting, but I'm running late enough as it is. Glirdan, Folwren...someone mind tallying the votes and starting the next day. Thanks. ;)

I'm late, I'm late!!! :p

Sounds good Boro. Everyone just give me a sec, but I'm pretty sure we know who's going...

Ouch!!!
 

Votes are:

Faramir- 6
Elrond- 10
Ugluk- 4

Well, it looks like the Elven race is being eliminated. What have we started!?!?
Remaining contestants are:

Hobbits
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Merry
Pippin

Men and Rohan Lady
Boromir
Eomer
Eowyn
Faramir
Hama

Wizards
Alatar
Pallando

Dwarves
Gimli
Gloin

Elves
Galadriel
Glorfindel

Others
Quickbeam
Treebeard

Badguys
Grishnakh
Ugluk

Vote away!!!

++Faramir


Because this whole 'Lynch Faramir' is just getting on my nerves. Let's just throw him off the island and be done with it!

Alright, people.

We have a problem. The Elves are being voted off the island, and the Men are sitting there laughing.

Enough of this Faramir-fighting! I propose a direct attack at the secretive tribe at the centre of the island, by removing the heart of their resistance:

++Eowyn

"So what's it going to be, Faramir?" I ask rhetorically. "Will you die in her place?"

++Boromir


just cause i said so

++Eowyn

I don't think Faramir would be willing to go in her place. And I have other hidden reasons for my vote... :smokin:

Having so many elves eliminated

Celeborn
Cirdan
Thanduril
Elrond

makes me feel that Samwise has now been somewhat vindicated. My purpose was to get revenge upon those who took out my Samwise. Now I hope to be much more agreeable. :D

But I will thin out men a bit with my vote too and go

++FARAMIR

++ FARAMIR of course!

Now he's being divisive amongst his own tribe and getting people to vote for the other members, just to save his own skin. His wife and brother no less! The man has no shame! :eek:

Oh and, Formendacil. What's going on? Has he got to you too? Come on, get (back) with the programme ... ;)

Please don't look at the subliminal messages
 

Long years now choose how farmers arose right among mingled inhanced rings!


Please don't stop to think about the words, just repeat them in your head, and then lynch the person who comes to mind!


10 points to the person who gets the message! It's really not that hard

I tried Perky i realy did, but i do have belives and they were to strong
 

My reasons are not at all hidden, but i will not repeat them!

++Eowyn

Sorry, my eyes were opened by the icon
 

The message is "Lynch Faramir," of course, discovered by taking the first letter of each word.

But I can't do it today (I'd be happy to do so tomorrow), unless there is another vote change. As I said, there are other considerations which I'm not sure I should discuss yet...

And ten points for Celuien! Only 5,472,997,634,815,162,342 more points, and you can be my partner in crime for my take over of Middle Earth!
Lynch Faramir! Because you know you want too!


Oh, and no subliminal messages in those numbers either ;)

Well, my idea was that if people are protecting Faramir, they'd be even more protective about Eowyn (who despite her soppy qualities is far better than he), but that appears not to be the case.

Which, I guess makes Faramir all more the worth the elimination, if he can subvert the minds of those around us, even as his worst qualities are presented (except maybe for that waves fetish of his...).

So, I guess:

-- Eowyn

++Faramir

Oh, come on! Why vote for Faramir? He is completely pure! He didn't even ask to see the Ring when he found out what Frodo bore. He was kind enough to Gollum...and he was awesomely stern. He played a great part in the books. He reminds me of my older brother somewhat. Therefore, if ye kill him, I might get rather mad.

Why are you so set and determined to get Faramir off anyway, Saucey? Do you have a particular problem with him being here?

There is NO reason to rid this island of Faramir! Up till now, the elvse have been the ones being removed. People's main argument for doing that is because they're worthless...or stupid...or lazy...but you can not possibly apply any of those things to Faramir!

I've seen that there has been some 'lawyer work' here, but, being directly connected to a lawyer, and I'm not kidding (dad a lawyer, brother studying to be one...secretary of one), I'm quite willing to take the defending attorney's job. If I fail, I will go home complaining 'of the jurry being bribed', thing commonly seen now adays.

Bring up your prosucutions, Mr. Prosecutor! I'm ready.

-- Folwren

I'm going to vote for

++Ugluk

The fighting with Grishnakh is getting on my nerves.

Today we'll go with movies, not books...
 

++Faramir

Just because it's preferable to Éowyn - I mean, there's only three women left, we've got to give them a shot... and I don't like movie Faramir.

Tomorrow, I'm going back to Treebeard.

I'll fill in as Assistant Prosecutor here...

As regards your charges that Faramir is neither "worthless, stupid, or lazy", I again draw your attention to the evidence of his father, whose word as Steward of Gondor is nearly unimpeachable, that is, in fact, all three.

However, since you seem to choose to disregard the evidence of His Excellency, the Steward of Gondor, I would like to point out that the actions of Faramir in dealing with the One Ring does, in fact, smack of stupidity. As you note, he doesn't even ask to see the Ring, but sends it off with Frodo. Those of us with 20/20 hindsight can see that this was ultimately the wise thing to do, but even Gandalf admits that the course of Denethor- the course that Faramir was bound to follow as an officer of the Gondorian army- was the prudent course. Faramir was stupidly disobeying his orders, and doing so for stupid reasons: "The Hobbits said that Gandalf said it was better."

That's the charge of not being stupid. Next, the charge of not being lazy.

Faramir was most definitely lazy. As his actions during the War of the Ring will show, he allowed his brother, the much needed Captain-General of Gondor, to make the 100-day journey to Rivendell while he remained in a three day radius of the White City. Next, we present as evidence his reluctance at taking command of the men in Osgiliath, when he was, as Denethor noted, the most logical choice for command. Finally, although we have no EVIDENCE of a dereliction of duty, one will note that he was conspicuous among the prominent commanders of the Western alliance in his absence at both the Field of Pelennor and the Black Gate.

And then for worthless...

Worthless is a subjective term, and isn't one that can be made based so much on one person's decisions, but on the decisions of others concerning him. But take note of those who knew him well:

Boromir, although Faramir claims he was close to him, makes not a mention of him from Rivendell to his death, although he mentions his father several times. Denethor, as already noted, DOES indeed think him worthless. His wife-to-be, Eowyn, only accepts him as a second-best choice. Aragorn is so unconcerned with him, that he does not dispense with his chief rival, but goes so far as to make him prince, and his steward to boot. If he were concerned at all about him, he'd have the sense to make a less well-connected man, like Hurin of the Keys, his steward.

Clearly, his IS lazy, stupid, and worthless. He ought to be removed.

*sigh*

I know it's useless against these anti-Faramir-people, but I'll vote out

++Ugluk

And how can you people be voting for Faramir when there are orcs still running amok?

Hey, at least Ugluk is neither stupid nor lazy. He shows, indeed, a remarkable work ethic and a certain practical intelligence. As to whether he is worthless... well, that is a subjective comment. And look at those around him: Saruman thought him MOST full of worth.

*scowls* Two elves? Not good. Not good at all. ++ Faramir. Galadriel and Glorfindel must be protected!