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Shastanis Althreduin 02-11-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623653)
Mithalwen the Grey Queen?

Har-dee-har-har. Nope.

Formendacil 02-11-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin (Post 623656)
Cobbler is incorrect, and as for Mythomaniac... it's not a role I've heard of! If you can show me it and it turns out to be correct, you'll win, Form. :)

Heh... we're talking about games before I played. Like... WW IV or V or VIish... I think it was Mithalwen's game.

Lemme go check the grimoire.

Formendacil 02-11-2010 04:05 PM

Here we are: WW V, Mith's game: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthr...t=12004&page=1

However, if we want to say the Curséd Villager, there was one of those in WW II.

Technically, a Cursed Villager can win with either team--depending whether they get bit or not.

Rune Son of Bjarne 02-11-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Formendacil (Post 623661)
Here we are: WW V, Mith's game: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthr...t=12004&page=1

However, if we want to say the Curséd Villager, there was one of those in WW II.

Technically, a Cursed Villager can win with either team--depending whether they get bit or not.

But technically that is not being neutral. . .they always have an allegiance.

Eönwë 02-11-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin (Post 623643)
Name the first singular "true neutral" role in the history of Werewolf on the Barrow-Downs.

The Mod.

Eönwë 02-11-2010 04:17 PM

Or the phantom of the opera?

Loslote 02-11-2010 04:22 PM

So Long, Farewell!
 
[Dead:]
There's a sad lack of voting from the ordos in the game
And the wolves and the gifteds too
And, cackling while tic-toc-toeing, an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "you're dead".
[Alona, Shasta, Phantom:]
You're dead, you're dead.

[Children: Mira, Glirdy, Nog: ]
Regretfully they tell us
(you're dead, you're dead)
But firmly they compel us
(you're dead, you're dead)
To say goodbye . . .
[Alona, Shasta, Phantom:]
You're dead!
[Dead:]
. . . to you!

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night
[Nienna:]
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, adieu
[Gwath:]
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen
[Mira:]
I'd like to stay and kill off all of you!

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
[Pitchie:]
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye -- Goodbye!

[Nog:]
I'm glad to go, I cannot tell a lie

[Brinn:]
I flit, I float, I fleetly flee, I fly

[Lottie:]
The sun has gone to bed and so must I

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye

[Living:]
Goodbye!

satansaloser2005 02-11-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623653)
Mithalwen the Grey Queen?

Haha! Not right but I love it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 623654)
Nerwen - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Lottie - I like the name Candy more than Killer. Sally? Care to accomodate? :Merisu:
Fea - Evil, evil pen-pal. I bite my thumb in your general direction!
Rune - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Steve - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Zil - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Wilwa - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Izzy - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Form - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!

One of these is Killer (please, Sally? I wanna be Candy! :p ) and I don't really feel like telling you which. Cookies or votes may inspire me to change my mind. :Merisu:

Lol. You know what you are, dear, and I shan't say it on the thread.

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623657)
Or is it Gray Queen to you Americans?

*snickers*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623663)
The Mod.

Oh gosh.

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623664)
Or the phantom of the opera?

Oh gosh, it gets better.



The moddess must consider this.

Isabellkya 02-11-2010 04:41 PM

Could the turned/cursed one of been the One Hit Wonder? And so the wolves actually had no say in whom they turned? But were trying to kill this One Hit Wonder, and instead turned them to the evil side?

A competition? True neutral? I would take a stab and say that role I had in your Weres of Eire game. *shrug* I don't have time to go asearching.

Haha.I watched This is It last week.

satansaloser2005 02-11-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Formendacil (Post 623661)
Here we are: WW V, Mith's game: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthr...t=12004&page=1

However, if we want to say the Curséd Villager, there was one of those in WW II.

Technically, a Cursed Villager can win with either team--depending whether they get bit or not.


Hmmmm. I'm going to have to say no on the Mythomaniac, because they do align themselves with one side. Sorry munchkin.

satansaloser2005 02-11-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya (Post 623667)
Could the turned/cursed one of been the One Hit Wonder? And so the wolves actually had no say in whom they turned? But were trying to kill this One Hit Wonder, and instead turned them to the evil side?

A competition? True neutral? I would take a stab and say that role I had in your Weres of Eire game. *shrug* I don't have time to go asearching.

Haha.I watched This is It last week.


Ding ding ding!

wilwarin538 02-11-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623627)
But it's same with you and Izzy. If you believe Form, why you should you two get the innocent label but not Inzil?

I don't like this at all...

You're absolutely right. I honestly can't explain where my logic was at the time, for some reason I had Izzy and I in a different category in my mind then Inzil.

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Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 623641)
Stupid pen-pal. Told you, pack-mate, told you... :rolleyes:

What?!? Is highly confused....



Goes and searches for answers to crazy Shasta question...

satansaloser2005 02-11-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623670)
Goes and searches for answers to crazy Shasta question...

Dear, the question just got answered. Sorry. :(

wilwarin538 02-11-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 623671)
Dear, the question just got answered. Sorry. :(

What? :( But I found an answer: in Kath's first game she had something called the Changling, every Night they chose a player and got that person's role for the Night, so depending on who they chose they could be on a different team every Night, therefore could win with either side. No? psh, all that work for nothing. :p My own fault for not realising I had cross posted with you. haha

OK. Watching House now. Be back in about 45 minutes.

Isabellkya 02-11-2010 05:09 PM

My final votes, then I sadly have to be off for other stuff; and I doubt I will make it back before deadline.

++Wilwa
++Form
++Inziladun

wilwarin538 02-11-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottie
Stupid pen-pal. Told you, pack-mate, told you...

Oh, I might as well put it out there why this confused me. Fea and I are PenPals as well. Brinn also mentioned having a PenPal. Didn't happen to be you again, eh Fea? How interesting....

Sally, your games are whack. *snuggles anyways*

x'ed with Izzy...

Eönwë 02-11-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623675)
Oh, I might as well put it out there why this confused me. Fea and I are PenPals as well. Brinn also mentioned having a PenPal. Didn't happen to be you again, eh Fea? How interesting....

My brain! My brain! *picks up bits scattered around room*

Feanor of the Peredhil 02-11-2010 05:15 PM

Wilwa, if you make things up like that I'll have to rescind my confidence in you. Lottie is a liar. This we already knew.

Eönwë 02-11-2010 05:42 PM

So, about Fea being the seer...

I don't like the way the village assumed that Fea was telling the truth straight away. No-one even waited for a counter-reveal.

However, now it's later and there's been no counter-reveal, and I don't think a wolf would reduce their packmate's score if it risked their life. So for now, I think it's better to assume that Fea is the seer - unless she's the Cursed Seer, which would be a crazy mix, but I wouldn't put that past Sally (The Cursed Seer would then find gifteds for the wolves). Or maybe she was just a cursed villager that decided that she didn't want Nog, and so took points away from him to kill him, leaving her to be able to claim seerdom and win the game that way- by pretending to dream innocents every Night from now on. However, those second two theories seem unlikely, so I think I will vote for:

++Fea

As for the others, I think

++Inzil looks innocent; and

++Izzy also looks innocent, and is always good to have around when she is.


The last one will go to either Form or Rune.

Eönwë 02-11-2010 05:44 PM

I'm too tired to think...

++Form gets my vote.

Rune Son of Bjarne 02-11-2010 05:48 PM

It would seem that there is more to Fea's role than she reveals, not something I would label "suprising" considering who our mod(s) are.

Of course it could be something that Wilwa makes up, but why would she do that after having been put down as "almost innocent" ?

The problem I encounter when trying to analyze the statements given, is that it is all shrouded in the mist of created by the ever interfering mod.

Eönwë 02-11-2010 05:50 PM

If I'm still alive toMorrow I'll go into more detail.



But now I'm going to sleep.

edit: x-ed wi' Rune

Eönwë 02-11-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 623680)
It would seem that there is more to Fea's role than she reveals, not something I would label "suprising" considering who our mod(s) are.

Maybe she's the One Hit Wonder?

satansaloser2005 02-11-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 623680)
It would seem that there is more to Fea's role than she reveals, not something I would label "suprising" considering who our mod(s) are.

Of course it could be something that Wilwa makes up, but why would she do that after having been put down as "almost innocent" ?

The problem I encounter when trying to analyze the statements given, is that it is all shrouded in the mist of created by the ever interfering mod.

Watch it, Mister, or I'll be fancying a Danish for supper. :p



Also, Izzy's gift for winning that little quiz was to reverse the polarity of someone's votes for the Day (thus allowing that person's votes to take points instead of give them, and me to make a Doctor Who joke today). She chose Fea.


Also also, Lottie's score has, unsurprisingly, been dropped two points by Dun.



That is all. Enjoy your blissfully sweet/short lives. :p

Feanor of the Peredhil 02-11-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623682)
Maybe she's the One Hit Wonder?

This has occurred to me, but I can't find any rational reason to think it's true.

Inziladun 02-11-2010 05:54 PM

Blast, I missed the WW History Quiz. Not that it would have mattered. :rolleyes:

I see Lottie's accepted her fate? Excellent. Go out with dignity and grace, my lupine foe. :p

++Form

++Steve

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623678)
So, about Fea being the seer...

I don't like the way the village assumed that Fea was telling the truth straight away. No-one even waited for a counter-reveal.

However, now it's later and there's been no counter-reveal, and I don't think a wolf would reduce their packmate's score if it risked their life. So for now, I think it's better to assume that Fea is the seer - unless she's the Cursed Seer, which would be a crazy mix, but I wouldn't put that past Sally (The Cursed Seer would then find gifteds for the wolves). Or maybe she was just a cursed villager that decided that she didn't want Nog, and so took points away from him to kill him, leaving her to be able to claim seerdom and win the game that way- by pretending to dream innocents every Night from now on. However, those second two theories seem unlikely, so I think I will vote for:

If any of that is the case, it's far too complex for my poor addled brain. I thought her taking away points from Nog was proof enough. Also, as you said, someone is the Seer, and they aren't dead. I would really hope the true Seer would have stepped forward right away if Fea was lying.

x/d with the last 5 or so

Feanor of the Peredhil 02-11-2010 05:55 PM

Ooh!

++Lottie

We'll just super extra make sure, shall we?

Rune Son of Bjarne 02-11-2010 05:57 PM

Fea a "One Hit Wonder"?!?!?!

I don't know, when I think of Fea, Eiffel 65 is not the first thing that pops into mind.

Eönwë 02-11-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 623687)
Fea a "One Hot Wonder"?!?!?!

Rune... :rolleyes:


Ok, now I'm really going to sleep

Eönwë 02-11-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 623685)
If any of that is the case, it's far too complex for my poor addled brain. I thought her taking away points from Nog was proof enough. Also, as you said, someone is the Seer, and they aren't dead. I would really hope the true Seer would have stepped forward right away if Fea was lying.

Agreed on the first and last points. On the second though- there's never enough proof in WW! :p

Rune Son of Bjarne 02-11-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 623688)
Rune... :rolleyes:


Ok, now I'm really going to sleep

OK that might have bee a freudian slip.

satansaloser2005 02-11-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 623680)
It would seem that there is more to Fea's role than she reveals, not something I would label "suprising" considering who our mod(s) are.

Of course it could be something that Wilwa makes up, but why would she do that after having been put down as "almost innocent" ?

The problem I encounter when trying to analyze the statements given, is that it is all shrouded in the mist of created by the ever interfering mod.

Watch it, Mister, or I'll be fancying a Danish for supper. :p



Also, Izzy's gift for winning that little quiz was to reverse the polarity of someone's votes for the Day (thus allowing that person's votes to take points instead of give them, and me to make a Doctor Who joke today). She chose Fea.


Also also, Lottie's score has, unsurprisingly, been dropped two points by Dun.



That is all. Enjoy your blissfully sweet/short lives. :p

Shastanis Althreduin 02-11-2010 06:17 PM

Hey, I was the first one to say "reverse polarity". :(

Loslote 02-11-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623670)
What?!? Is highly confused...

*giggles* Yay! I can die happy.

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Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil (Post 623677)
Wilwa, if you make things up like that I'll have to rescind my confidence in you. Lottie is a liar. This we already knew.

Nonsense! I speak only the truth! Honest!

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 623683)
WaAlso also, Lottie's score has, unsurprisingly, been dropped two points by Dun.

Boo!

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Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 623685)
I see Lottie's accepted her fate? Excellent. Go out with dignity and grace, my lupine foe. :p

Yes, quite. That is why I am spamming the thread with song parodies. Dignity and grace...totallly. :p

wilwarin538 02-11-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 623680)
Of course it could be something that Wilwa makes up, but why would she do that after having been put down as "almost innocent" ?

Yes.
I am a Psychology Major. I like screwing with peoples' minds to gather information in the hopes of furthering my own personal understanding of human behaviour. That is all I have to say on the matter.



My last two votes? Still not sure, going to think about it a bit and vote later.

x'ed with Shasta and wolf

Loslote 02-11-2010 06:25 PM

Werewolf (based on Jewel's Fat Boy)
 
Werewolf's packmate dies
Dreamed by the Seer
Doesn't know what to do
(S)he feels sorry for her,
And filled with pride
Oh fragile flame
No one feels the same.

Werewolf goes about the Day
Trying to think of good things to say
Like "this is just a game I play",
And "I like it this way."
Oh, fragile flame.
Well, no one feels the same.

Night. Think hard. And...kill.
Who to Night-kill?
Avoid the Ranger,
But Seer's deadly.
Maybe kill an ordo?

Werewolf says "Wouldn't it be nice
If I could find another Cursed,
or a cobbler to help me out."
Oh, fragile flame.
You know I feel the same.

Loslote 02-11-2010 06:31 PM

Packmate's Song (from Carrie Underwood's Mama's Song)
 
Packmates, you taught me to do the wrong thing
But now you've got to let your Lottie die.
You've taught be everything that I would need,
To make it through this crazy game, Werewolf.

And I know you watched me struggle,
And wanted to see me survive,
But I don't think that it will turn out well.

And Fea's good, too good.
She dreams of your little Lottie like a Seer should.
She is good, too good.
She dreams of wolves she kills,
And she's never gonna cease,
So don't you try to save me.
Don't you try to save me.

Packmates, there's no way you'll ever lose me.
Watching me die is not good-bye.
As you watch me walk down to my future,
I know tears of rage are in your eyes.

'Cause Fea's good, too good.
She dreams of your little Lottie like a Seer should.
She is good, too good.
She dreams of wolves she kills,
And she's never gonna cease,
So don't you try to save me.
Don't you try to save me.

Loslote 02-11-2010 06:41 PM

Per request of Miss Moddess: Little Miss Lottie
 
We'd like to know
A little bit about you
For our files.
We'd like to lynch you now
To help ourselves.
Look around you. All you see
Are unsympathetic eyes.
Stroll around the grounds
Until you die toDay.

And here's to you, Little Miss Lottie,
Moddess loves you more than you will know (Wo wo wo).
Sally bless you, please, Little Miss Lottie,
We know what to do with evil wolves (Hey hey hey, hey hey
hey).

We'd like to know
A little bit about you
For our files.
We'd like to lynch you now
To help ourselves.
Look around you. All you see
Are unsympathetic eyes.
Stroll around the grounds
Until you die toDay.

Hide it in a hiding place
Where no one ever goes.
Maybe in you pantry with your cookies.
It's a little secret,
Just the Werewolves' affair.
Most of all, you've got to hide it
from the others.

Coo coo ca-choo, Little Miss Lottie,
Moddess loves you more than you will know (Wo wo wo).
Sally bless you, please, Little Miss Lottie,
We know what to do with those who kill. (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey).

Sitting on a sofa
On a Thursday afternoon,
Going to the werewolfers' debate,
Laugh about it,
Shout about it,
When you've got to choose,
Every way you look at it you lose.

Where have you gone, Shastanis Althreduin?
All players turn their lonely eyes to you (Ooo ooo ooo).

What's that you say, Little Miss Lottie?
"Shastanis has left and gone away" (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey).

Loslote 02-11-2010 06:46 PM

Stick around. I'll post a couple of Song Parodies during the last ten minutes that reveal: *censored - but exciting*

Loslote 02-11-2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 623654)
Nerwen - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Lottie - I like the name Candy more than Killer. Sally? Care to accomodate? :Merisu:
Fea - Evil, evil pen-pal. I bite my thumb in your general direction!
Rune - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Steve - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Zil - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Wilwa - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Izzy - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Form - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!

One of these is Killer (please, Sally? I wanna be Candy! :p ) and I don't really feel like telling you which. Cookies or votes may inspire me to change my mind. :Merisu:

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Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil (Post 623686)
Ooh!

++Lottie

We'll just super extra make sure, shall we?

Hmm. I did say votes might inspire me to change my mind. But since it's not really a vote for me, I shall tell you who is not a wolf:

...

...

wait for it...

...

Shasta, despite early suspicions, turns out not to be a wolf.


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