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Nilpaurion Felagund 02-28-2005 09:49 PM

Sorry, Erenor.
 
I have to beg all your pardon, as the puzzle was constructed quite hastily. I shall give a better version of it.

A rare jewel well followed by beginning in every name.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-07-2005 04:42 AM

*crickets a-singing*
 
Anyone? Anybody at all? :(

NightKnight 03-07-2005 11:56 AM

Something ending with -ien, that much I can make out. But the rest is dizzy.

Mithalwen 03-07-2005 11:58 AM

Silmarien then ..... Silma .. the substance fromwhich the Silmarils were made .. can't explain the well though..... :(

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-08-2005 01:43 AM

Mithalwen, you got it!
 
Silmarien it is!

A rare jewel well = Silmaril - il (sounds like "ill", something you're not if you're well).

The thread is thine, Wandering Wraith. :)

Mithalwen 03-08-2005 01:03 PM

Splendid - a quick and easy one cos I am in class!

Cheer a flower?


Ed... maybe not as easy as I expected?

Mithalwen 03-13-2005 12:06 PM

Clue required?

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-13-2005 06:56 PM

I must be thick-headed.
 
Is it Gladden River? Cheer (gladden) a flôwer (river).

Mithalwen 03-14-2005 01:00 PM

No that is absolutely perfect.... :) Couldn't resist since one of the first things my mother taught me about cryptic crosswords was that a flower was a river .... :D

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-14-2005 09:33 PM

Yay!
 
Light goblin home.

Gil-Galad 03-14-2005 09:44 PM

hmmmm.....Goblin Town?

Light=town is basically not a heavilly populated as oh say a city

rest is explained

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-14-2005 10:08 PM

Sorry, no.
 
"Light" is used in a different context. ;)

Gil-Galad 03-14-2005 10:16 PM

hey at least i tried...gotta conserve my energy for my play! woot woot oh i've lost all interest...


Gundabad? light = spark of gun? i better be hitting the dusty trail...

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-14-2005 10:50 PM

Wrong again.
 
Try another meaning of "light". :p

Mithalwen 03-18-2005 02:58 PM

well light can be light in weight, as well as illumination (both either in literal or metaphorical senses). It can be a verb or a noun....

Syntactically it may either stand alone or refer to goblin alone or goblin could relate to home or all may be linked... hmm..... I can't help thinking that the use of goblin is significant since other than in "the Hobbit" Orc is the more common term.
So I had wondered if it might be Gondolin since I have an anagram obsession and it contains the letters of goblin "light" of one letter... but all this thinking aloud (and realising it is home not city ...) has given another idea

Light goblin home- Aglarond? The glittering caves. Goblins live in caves cos most of them can't stand the light and Aglar means shining with light?

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-20-2005 09:07 PM

I'm sorry Mithalwen.
 
Your only shots that scratched the target were:

Quote:

well light can be light in weight (Mith)
Yes, it is light as in "not heavy." ;)

Quote:

I can't help thinking that the use of goblin is significant since other than in "the Hobbit" Orc is the more common term. (Mith)
Ja, it is in The Hobbit.

The Saucepan Man 03-21-2005 10:48 AM

I do believe that I have it ...
 
Gram?

Sounds like gramme, which is a measure of weight - a single gramme not being particularly heavy.

And Mount Gram was a home to Goblins.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-25-2005 10:07 PM

Well, Saucie.
 
"Gramme" is "Gram" to Americans.

So, yes, I was thinking of that. The thread is thine. :)

The Saucepan Man 03-29-2005 06:33 AM

Next up
 
Thanks Nilp. :)

Quote:

"Gramme" is "Gram" to Americans.
Two countries separated by a common language. :D

Here's the next one:

Master gunner does not hesitate by lake.

Fairly straightforward ...

Turambar 03-29-2005 12:55 PM

Bombadil ?

The Saucepan Man 03-29-2005 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turambar
Bombadil ?

Please explain. :p ;)

Turambar 03-29-2005 02:26 PM

Sorry.

The gunner (BOMBADIER) does not hesitate (say "ER"); rather, he stands by an L(ake).

Very clever. The clue, I mean.

The Saucepan Man 03-29-2005 04:56 PM

Correct!
 
Top notch. :)

Please proceed ...

Turambar 03-31-2005 04:52 AM

Jewelry promotion came back to outlaw.

Mithalwen 04-19-2005 06:50 AM

Bumping up becasue I am still puzzling over it.... but haven't got very far (evidently) .....

Cannot even decide if I am looking for a jewel or an outlaw (though either, to me suggests I am looking for something from the Silmarillion and there is a suggestion of letters in reverse order .... but I am not sure that I am like Butterbur in being able to see through brick walls given time .... so Master of Doom ... are any of the trees I am barking up of the correct species? :D

Turambar 04-22-2005 05:00 PM

You're on the right track - "translate" Jewelry promotion, run it backwards, and you'll have an outlaw from the Silmarillion.

Celebrian 04-23-2005 11:40 PM

Melkor? (rok=rock, klem=climb)

Mithalwen 05-06-2005 01:15 PM

So..... it is well over 10 days - what now?

The Saucepan Man 05-07-2005 10:36 AM

Well, strictly speaking, anyone can ask a new question. But, since there have been only a few responses, it would be better to wait for Turambar to give another clue.

Turambar 05-08-2005 11:08 AM

I apologize for snoozing on this thread. HINT: one of 12 outlaws. The Silmarillion.

Celebrian 05-08-2005 01:05 PM

Bregolas?
jewelry-> gold + sale backwards ->las + outlaw

Turambar 05-09-2005 06:48 AM

The answer is one of Barahir's band of 12 outlaws. "Jewely promotion" backward gives you his name.

Here are the twelve outlaws:

Beren , Baragund, Belegund, Radhruin, Dairuin, Dagnir, Ragnor, Gildor, Gorlim, Arthad, Urthel, and Hathaldir. :rolleyes:

Mithalwen 05-09-2005 06:51 AM

Dagnir? Ring + jewellery ad(d) could be interpreted as promotion?

Turambar 05-09-2005 07:02 AM

Yes. Thank you.

Mithalwen 05-09-2005 10:58 AM

No thank you.... given that the clue was very helpful.....

Erm try this...

Lonely lady dwarf after Elvish woods, I hear?

The Saucepan Man 05-09-2005 11:29 AM

Erendis?
 
Elvish woods, I hear = Eren (sounds like Eryn, Elvish for woods)
lady dwarf = Dis

The whole is Erendis, a lonely lady.

Mithalwen 05-09-2005 11:44 AM

That is it..... a whole half an hour.... does that make it a good clue or a bad clue I wonder.... lol

NB Erendis means lonely lady/bride in elvish but that is probably trying too hard...

The Saucepan Man 05-09-2005 05:14 PM

Next up
 
Thanks Mithalwen. :)

I would say that it was a good clue as it followed the usual conventions.

Next one should be fairly simple.

Wretched fellow is sad taking look around.

Feanor of the Peredhil 06-25-2005 11:24 AM

taking a shot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man
Wretched fellow is sad taking look around.

Taking a look can, of course, be "tour"ing, and turning around the spelling of that a bit, you get Tuor. One who took Tuor somewhere was Gelmir. When I started digging up information about Gelmir, it came back to me that the other Gelmir was indeed a wretched fellow, captured by Morgoth during the Dagor Bragollach and whose public maiming begain the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Taking a look around while that was happening would make any wretched fellow sad.

So... is Gelmir close? Or should I give up entirely...

Mithalwen 06-25-2005 11:34 AM

Well I thought wretched mioght indicate an anagram .... but I tend to see signs of anagrams in the same way as McCarthyites saw signs of communists so.... :confused:


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