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Legate of Amon Lanc 12-06-2007 07:07 AM

I was thinking what kind of hint should I give. Maybe if you have anyone any specific request of which direction should I aim my hint.

But first, let me emphasise the fact that what I am speaking of can be found really in the book, in the story of Thrór and Nár (at least the part of the riddle that concerns these two).

The best thing I can do is to suggest to try whether you can find parallels between Elrond's life and the story of Thrór and Nár. And if there was ever similar thing that happened to Elrond (not the whole story, but some aspects of it).

Nerwen 12-06-2007 09:29 AM

But Elrond had such a long life!

Mind if I ask what age this parellel even took place in?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-06-2007 03:35 PM

Well, that would be helping quite a lot...

But okay, I can tell you that it wasn't in Beleriand.

And I am referring to only one single event. In both of the stories: Nįr's and Elrond's.

The Might 12-06-2007 04:05 PM

I can only think of Celebrian for now, who was tormented by the Orcs.

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-06-2007 04:21 PM

Getting closer. In some things very close. In fact, you are probably the closest you can be. The next guess in the line of going this way should be the correct answer.

The Might 12-06-2007 05:20 PM

Hmmm...perhaps Celebrimbor, whos death at the hands of the Orcs Elrond could no prevent?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-06-2007 05:36 PM

Yes, Celebrimbor it was. I was referring also to the fact that Thrįr's head was chopped off and Nįr saw it the same as Sauron's host attacked with Celebrimbor's body instead of a standard...

Please give us another, Mr. Might.

The Might 12-09-2007 04:41 AM

Well, I waited for a while to try and find something good...anyway here goes:

Tom Cotton and Rosie Cotton are like

Faramir and ?

Nerwen 12-09-2007 05:01 AM

Which Tom Cotton did you have in mind? :confused:

The Might 12-09-2007 05:02 AM

the young one

Nerwen 12-09-2007 05:04 AM

Boromir, then– Tom was Rosie's older brother.

The Might 12-09-2007 05:05 AM

Yes, but not what I had in mind...something more special.

Nerwen 12-09-2007 05:10 AM

Can you please clarify that, Might?

Is the answer

A) Not Boromir

or

B) Boromir, but for a different reason?

The Might 12-10-2007 09:15 AM

A.

Nerwen 12-10-2007 06:11 PM

Lothķriel? She married Faramir's wife's brother; Tom married Rosie's husband's sister.

The Might 12-11-2007 12:11 PM

Indeed. :)
You're good, nice to see you so often in the Quiz Room!

Nerwen 12-12-2007 07:12 AM

Thanks.:)

Here's my effort:

Dragon's teeth are to the Dwarves as ________ are to the Sackville-Bagginses.

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-12-2007 09:18 AM

What about spoons? Fram gave the Dwarves this necklace of dragon teeth, and they were quite upset. The same happened with Bilbo's gift to Lobelia.

Nerwen 12-12-2007 05:40 PM

You've got it.:)

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-13-2007 08:19 AM

Gandalf was to Denethor

as

Galadriel was to ________

Nerwen 12-14-2007 05:48 AM

How about Saruman? Galadriel supported his rival (Gandalf); Gandalf supported Denethor's rival (Aragorn).

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-14-2007 06:04 AM

Absolutely precise shot! Very good! Please continue :)

Nerwen 12-14-2007 07:54 PM

Finrod Felagund is to Men as ________ is to the Elves.

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-15-2007 02:42 AM

Hmm, I don't know, someone like... Oromė?

Nerwen 12-15-2007 03:13 AM

Yep, your turn.:)

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-15-2007 04:16 AM

Oh, yeah! Then...

Gollum on Mount Doom is to Sauron

as

Two orcs in the wood are to _______

I hope this is not too vague, but I think with the specifications I provided it is not :)

McCaber 12-15-2007 07:17 PM

Is is Isildur?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-16-2007 05:22 AM

These were not two (and in fact, they were not precisely in the wood either) :)

Nerwen 12-16-2007 07:27 AM

A clue, please?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-16-2007 07:51 AM

What these two cases have in common is fire.

Nerwen 12-17-2007 09:02 PM

Hmmn... my brain isn't working today. 'Nother clue, please.

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-18-2007 05:05 AM

Catalyser.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-23-2008 04:04 PM

The fire is the catalyser. It is needed to be there in both cases. I don't want to be too obvious...

Nerwen 01-23-2008 08:51 PM

I think I have it!
 
Is it Aghan the Drūg?

Two Orcs set fire to Barach's house in the wood, burning the statue into which Aghan had transferred his power.

Gollum fell into the fires of Mount Doom, destroying the Ring into which Sauron had transferred his power.

In both cases the object's creator was also harmed through a kind of "sympathetic magic".

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-24-2008 03:44 AM

Exactly :) I know, tricky, but it wasn't that hard, wasn't it?

Please, continue with the thread :)

Nerwen 01-24-2008 06:58 AM

I don't know why it took me so long– except I haven't been around for the last few weeks.

I'll get back to you when I've thought of something.

Legate of Amon Lanc 02-07-2008 07:19 AM

Thought of something yet, Nerwen?

Nerwen 02-07-2008 07:31 AM

Oh dear, I forgot all about this thread.

Hang in there!

Nerwen 02-07-2008 08:41 AM

This is the best I can come up with at the moment. Lame, yes, but it will serve to re-start the thread.

Maeglin is to Gondolin

as

A thrush is to ______

McCaber 02-07-2008 09:19 AM

Smaug?


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