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Boromir88 09-24-2008 09:55 AM

Shasta: No.

Mith and Mac: No.

If I'm wrong about one of you two, then I'm wrong. I wouldn't call it luck, Mac, more like faith and if I've misplaced my faith in one of you two, congradulations, you played brilliantly. I won't beat myself up over it, I'll be back here again, and next time we meet in a village, we'll see if you can do it again.

Fea: Maybe, but probably not today. I will never get a read on her, ever, she's far too unpredictable; capable of saying and doing anything. Right now, I think she looks more innocent than Izzy. But, unlike you Fea, I'm perfectly willing to live with that paranoia tomorrow if we should both still be a live.

Izzy: Probably who I will vote for today. I'm in no way confident about this choice, because there's some innocent look things, she voted for CoD on Day 1, went after sally on Day 2. But there are also some serious questions, like why she never followed up on her suspicions towards sally with a vote? On Day 2, why did she spread the vote with Nogrod and not sally, when previously you would think (based on Izzy's posting) she wasn't going to vote for Nogrod. Why didn't she follow up to vote for sally on Day 3 either? Her reaction to Rikae saying Izzy was "poking." It doesn't look too good Izzy that you managed to accuse 3 people in a matter of a few sentences, when responding to Rikae.

Feanor of the Peredhil 09-24-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88 (Post 568724)
But, unlike you Fea, I'm perfectly willing to live with that paranoia tomorrow if we should both still be a live.

I wonder if I'm misunderstood. I can easily live with my own paranoia.

What I'm trying to cut down on is the paranoia of others. If we don't succeed today and I'm still alive tomorrow, I'd very much like to avoid an unpredictable triumvirate of alpha ordos and a wolf for the village to have to deal with.

I can often convince people that I'm innocent, but the job gets rather a lot more difficult when there are other loose cannons firing about.

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 10:11 AM

If it is post 320 which you are referring to.
See, that/this is where I think people keep mis-interpreting what I say. Either on purpose, or accident - is up in the air.

My intent behind those words was not to cast suspicion around - I was merely trying to say that if a person is going to suspect Mr. Parcel because he eats oranges, then they need to suspect everyone who eats oranges.

Boromir88 09-24-2008 10:11 AM

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I can often convince people that I'm innocent, but the job gets rather a lot more difficult when there are other loose cannons firing about.
You think it's going to be any easier tomorrow if I'm out of the picture? Everyone else is just sitting and watching, not saying anything. Which is why the past two days have been a complete waste and why people think this is getting repetitive. When you don't say anything at all it's not going to be any better than a blind shot in the dark. If we don't get a wolf today, whether I'm here or not tomorrow won't make the situation any easier for the village Fea.

Boromir88 09-24-2008 10:26 AM

No one else has the nerve to act:

++Boro

I'll grant you your desperate need to find out Fea. Good luck to the last wolf.

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:31 AM

No Boro...
The library was clsoed for staff training so I just had to drive an extra 20 miles ot get her.

I am now certain the last wolf is Issy or Fea and this doesn't help at all....

have to go and swear a lot now.

Excuse me.

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boro
I bet you're innocent Mac, but now's not the time to get lazy. Let's hear it, you think I'm the least innocent looking, ok, why?

What I said in the analysis I made of you a couple of days back. Plus, you've been trying to take over the village and led it to questionable decisions (McCaber). Plus: creepiness. I know that's a terribly general accusation, but that's how it is. There is evidence against you being a wolf, but you just don't feel innocent.

Reading over the last couple of posts, I'm now almost certain that the last wolf is either Boro or Fea. It's good that we have at least two days to find it out.

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 10:34 AM

I've gone through the rest of Mith's posts between the last time and now.
I won't vote for her, nothing seemed to be furry.

I think Mac is innocent - but then because he looks so darn innocent, I'm beginning to doubt myself. For that and because the placement of his votes.

Shasta, same as before - obvious reasons.

Fea, I have no idea really. I think her innocent, but I just can't completely write her off as innocent.

Boro the day one voting speaks for his innocence, and his sincerity toDay - as well as throughout the game of how he would not be a big loss were he lynched. But he is quite bold, so again - I cannot write him completely off as innocent.


X'ed with Mac, Mith, Boro.

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 10:37 AM

Well why would you go and vote yourself?
Complete sincerity, or bluffing?

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:37 AM

Mac, I'd really rather get rid of Fea for being spectacularly unhelpful all game. So if you go that way I'll join you...

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:38 AM

I'm going for sincere .... :(

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:39 AM

Of course if I am wrong I'll probably just kill myself.

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:39 AM

If Boro is a wolf, then his self-vote is the boldest bluff I have ever seen. However, Boro is one of the very few people I would trust to do something like it.

If Boro is innocent, his self-vote was pretty darn stupid. Sorry to say that so plainly. You freaked out because one person voted for you and one ponders to? Come on... :rolleyes:

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:41 AM

I don't think it is freaked out. I think it is washing his hands of us...

Ma faute, ma faute ma tres grande faute,

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 568735)
Mac, I'd really rather get rid of Fea for being spectacularly unhelpful all game. So if you go that way I'll join you...

Going by helpfulness, you're right (even though we could also lynch Shasta for that).

Then again, how helpful is a crucial self-vote like this one?

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 10:42 AM

I was/am hoping it was bluffing, he/you just don't seem like the person to give up.



Oh bother tenses. It bugs me to talk about people like they aren't even there.



X'ed with Mac and Mith.

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:42 AM

Well, considering that we can still lynch Boro tomorrow, I guess I'd be willing to go with a bandwaggon against Fea.

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macalaure (Post 568740)
Going by helpfulness, you're right (even though we could also lynch Shasta for that).

Then again, how helpful is a crucial self-vote like this one?

I just get the feeling he has reached the end of his tether .. but what do I know.

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:51 AM

je fais mon jeu
 
ok

++ Feanor of the Peredhil

Sorry sweetie but .......

Boromir88 09-24-2008 10:52 AM

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If Boro is innocent, his self-vote was pretty darn stupid. Sorry to say that so plainly. You freaked out because one person voted for you and one ponders to? Come on...~Mac
Come on...Mac, you should know me well enough by now that I don't freak out. Someone needed to give this village some action, a little spark to go on tomorrow. If I can be of no more assistance tomorrow, than that was my way of doing it. One last trap you might call it, just look at all the posting that insued afterwards?

Now, don't bandwagon against Fea, be done with me, and catch the wolf tomorrow.

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:52 AM

Well, if he's innocent, I can sure understand why he's upset about being suspected by a few with so little reason.

Then again, that's exactly the thing that he put McCaber through, so I'm still saying: come on!

Feanor of the Peredhil 09-24-2008 10:54 AM

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Now, don't bandwagon against Fea, be done with me, and catch the wolf tomorrow.
I totally concur.

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:55 AM

I feel like in between a rock and a hard place here....

Izzy what are you thinking?

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 10:56 AM

Aye.

Such silliness.

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya (Post 568749)
Aye.

Such silliness.

My thoughts exactly. :D

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 10:57 AM

I'm thinking Boro is sincere. I am hoping he is not bluffing.

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 10:58 AM

++Fea

I do really hope that Boro was sincere, otherwise...

I don't like almost blind faith.
Oh dear.

Mithalwen 09-24-2008 10:59 AM

Votes?

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:59 AM

If Boro is sincere, I should listen to him and lynch him! :p

Macalaure 09-24-2008 10:59 AM

++Fea

Sorry, dear.

Feanor of the Peredhil 09-24-2008 11:00 AM

Tragic.
Hope you catch the wolf. Vote Boro tomorrow.

Isabellkya 09-24-2008 11:00 AM

I meant sincere in wanting to spur action, as Mith suggested he is fed up with us.

Rather than it being a bluff - to get us to think him more innocent and save him; being a wolf.

Durelin 09-24-2008 11:00 AM

Deadline!

Day 7 has ended.

Feanor of the Peredhil has been lynched. She was an Ordinary Innocent.

Night 8 begins.

Durelin 09-25-2008 11:00 AM

Night 8 has ended.

Mithalwen has been killed. She was an Ordinary Innocent.

Day 8 has begun.



~The Dead~

Leonard Nimoy (Half-Vulcan) ~ illogically murdered by the wolves
CaptainofDespair (Wererat) ~ Crushed on Day 1 to reveal his Dark Side
Day One (Evil Wizard) ~ Brought down alongside the might of Cluny the Scourge
Kath (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Tortured and ripped apart by the wolves on Night 2
Gwathagor (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Assassinated by con-goers on Day 2.
Brinniel (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Made really dead on Night 3.
satansaloser2005 (Werewolf) ~ Lynched Day 3
Rikae (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Killed Night 4
Lalwendė (Cobbler) ~ Lynched Day 4
Nilpaurion Felagund (Seer) ~ Killed Night 5
McCaber (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Lynched Day 5
Nerwen (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Lynched Day 6
Nogrod (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Killed Night 7
Feanor of the Peredhil (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Lynched Day 7
Mithalwen (Ordinary Innocent) ~ Killed Night 8


~The Living~

Boromir88 - Fireworks Pyro and Sean Bean's #1 fan
Shastanis Althreduin - Rabid Hermione Fan-wizard
Isabellkya - Rabid fan of Vampire Princess Miyu
Macalaure - "Civilization" fan with Machiavellian tendencies

Boromir88 09-25-2008 11:45 AM

Oh hell, why am I still alive...why didn't you innocents just lynch me already, only the wolf wants me around in this game! Now we have to get it right today, or hope for a ranger protection.

P.S. which means I'm immediately suspicious of Mac and Izzy for not granting me my last wish.

Boromir88 09-25-2008 12:18 PM

A splurt of what's going through my head...

The wolf is either you Mac, who cleverly designed the plan to sacrifice your fellow wolves at the crucial moment to give you nearly free range to roam and presumed innocent throughout the rest of the time. And you chose to vote for Fea, because you knew it would be easy to convince an innocent Izzy to lynch me today.

What points to you being innocent -

-Obviously your voting record. Not inconceivable for a wolf (Nogrod attempted it), but highly improbable.
-Your reaction to my self-vote yesterday, seemed more out of frustration, like "Boro you're an idiot." Not laughing/joyfulness out of me being stupid.


But if you are innocent, why the hell would you keep me alive? Look at me, I wish I was a wolf in this game, because it would be awesome, but I've been a horrible innocent that has only served as cover for the last wolf.

Or, it's you Izzy, who saw Mac's "well we can lynch Boro tomorrow" and thought, ooh look at that nice victim. These last couple days you've been cautious, staying out of the public eye, while I run around like a chicken with my head cut off and just lead to lynching innocents.

-It seemed like you took a little joy in my self-vote yesterday. Not an "idiot" reaction like Mac. Also, you tie it between Fea and me, passing the ultimate decision to Mac.

-I haven't seen you answer why after why you had relatively strong suspicion's against sally, and concerns (but not big enough to "vote for him"), why you went after and voted for Nogrod instead. (Day 2 and Day 3).

What makes you look innocent, besides me looking like an obvious madman:

-Most of your explanations, when questioned you answered. And their answers don't confuse the situation, rather they clear it up. (Like the "throw away vote" thing and your response to Rikae's suspicions),

Macalaure 09-25-2008 12:23 PM

Something to analyze at last.

We're four people now. One of them is a known innocent. One of them is the ranger. (The two might be identical, of course.)

If we lynch the wolf today, we win (of course).
If we lynch the ranger today, the game is over and we lost.
If we lynch an ordo, then we have a chance for another day.


Why did the wolf kill Mith?
Out of all non-known villagers, she was the most innocent-looking, so if the wolf wanted to get rid of one who was unlikely to attract a vote while presuming that Shasta was protected, she was the logical pick.

Why would Boro have killed Mith?
Mith was very unlikely to vote for Boro today, so I would have guessed that Borowolf would like to keep her around and then bandwaggon on her vote to have a good shot at securing victory. If he wanted to get rid of an assumed innocent, he would probably have gone for me.

Why would Izzy have killed Mith?
She could have killed Boro, but he makes too good a scapegoat at this point.
She could have killed me, but Mith suspected her more yesterday than I did.


I still don't have a good feeling with Izzy, but let's be serious for a minute: If Boro is the wolf he'd be the most madly bluffing wolf there has ever been in this game, and he would fully deserve to win.

So, yeah, I will probably vote Izzy today, but of course there's still many hours to go til then, so I'll wait with my vote to see what's going to happen in the meantime.

Boromir88 09-25-2008 12:34 PM

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If Boro is the wolf he'd be the most madly bluffing wolf there has ever been in this game, and he would fully deserve to win.~Mac
What if you're the madly bluffing wolf Mac, that now thinks it would be easier to convince me to vote for Izzy than it would to convince Izzy to vote for me?

Macalaure 09-25-2008 12:40 PM

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P.S. which means I'm immediately suspicious of Mac and Izzy for not granting me my last wish.
Incidentally, we also happen to be the last options left. ;)

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And you chose to vote for Fea, because you knew it would be easy to convince an innocent Izzy to lynch me today.
Well, to be honest, if I was a wolf, why would it be harder for me to convince an innocent Izzy to lynch Fea instead of you?

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But if you are innocent, why the hell would you keep me alive? Look at me, I wish I was a wolf in this game, because it would be awesome, but I've been a horrible innocent that has only served as cover for the last wolf.
It was a toss-up situation and my gut told me you were looking a little more innocent. And that's what it's about: lynching suspicious people, not lynching people who maybe unintendedly help the wolves.

Quote:

What if you're the madly bluffing wolf Mac, that now thinks it would be easier to convince me to vote for Izzy than it would to convince Izzy to vote for me?
For all you know, I could be.

Shastanis Althreduin 09-25-2008 04:15 PM

Hi guys, I'm on meds and bed rest. Lucky for you, my computer is a laptop.

Right now, my gut is telling me to trust Izzy, and I sort-of trust Boro because of Fea, so I'm looking at Mac for the moment.

I can't promise loads of activity because of my meds (they make me go loopy), but by all that is good and holy in the Harry Potter multiverse, I will vote today. :(


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