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Thinlómien 11-22-2006 04:07 AM

No one's active, I see.

So, tell me, what do

Finrod Felagund
Thráin
Beren
Frodo

have in common?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-14-2006 03:43 AM

They were all, at one point, captured in a by the Enemy? (all in a tower, I might add)

Thinlómien 12-15-2006 01:20 AM

That's true.

I'm not sure whether you refer to Sauron as "the Enemy" (as I thought the answer to be) or to both Melkor and Sauron, but anyway, feel welcome to take the thread. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-15-2006 07:47 AM

I refer to Sauron, I just didn't want to write him as person because it might be little bit confusing, since it was him personally who captured Beren and Felagund; and in the case of Frodo and Thráin he was not personally involved in the capture.

Okay, what do these characters have in common:

Aragorn
Frodo
Gollum
the Lord of the Ringwraith
Sam

:D

mhagain 12-15-2006 02:58 PM

They all went under different identities at some point?

Aragorn as Thorongil, Frodo as Mr Underhill, Gollum as Smeagol, Lord of the Ringwraiths as The Witch King of Angmar, and Sam as a great elvish warrior.

It's stretching it but all I can think of...

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-15-2006 03:54 PM

Nice attempt, but it is not what I meant. And I wouldn't consider the great elf warrior being Sam's other identity, it certainly was not an alter ego he adopted, when someone saw him regularly, he definitely could not believe his disguise any longer :D But you have good points which can serve as good clues. Any other guesses?

The Might 12-17-2006 10:05 AM

Probably it's a stupid guess...but here goes: maybe they were all alive during the War of the Ring

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-17-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might
Probably it's a stupid guess...but here goes: maybe they were all alive during the War of the Ring

As well as Arwen, Bilbo, Círdan, Dáin, Elrond, Faramir, Gandalf, Haldir, Imrahil, Legolas, Mablung, Nob, Orofin, Pippin, Radagast, Sauron, Treebeard, Uglúk... not speaking of many others. Nope. The thing they have in common is specific for them.

The Might 12-17-2006 04:21 PM

hmmm...seems every time I find something that fits 4 of them the 5th is different
it is perhaps wrong, I'll try still
they all passed through the Dead Marshes
Aragorn when he captured Gollum, Gollum leading Sam and Frodo, and the WK on his foul beast

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-18-2006 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might
hmmm...seems every time I find something that fits 4 of them the 5th is different
it is perhaps wrong, I'll try still
they all passed through the Dead Marshes
Aragorn when he captured Gollum, Gollum leading Sam and Frodo, and the WK on his foul beast

You are getting close. But there is no direct mention in the books that WK passed through the Dead Marches. Why I put them together is based on real evidence you can find in the books.

The Might 12-18-2006 01:01 PM

hmm...this is probably easy, but I somehow can't find the answer...

:mad:
maybe because they all looked for Gollum
the WK was sent to find him
Aragorn as well, and Frodo and Sam when they sometimes lost him...
still, again they don't seem to be the only ones that did that

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-18-2006 02:50 PM

Indeed, they were not the only ones. And Gollum certainly didn't look for himself (well, maybe he could, considering his dual identity). And again, it is not stated in the books that WK personally did search for Gollum - I could write "all the Nine" instead of just him. This might help you. My source is real evidence. I am saying that the thing they have in common is stated in the book explicitely. If it were, for example, that they all smoked pipeweed, I will place it here in the case that it was said in the book at some place, like: "...and WK was sitting there, smoking pipe", "And Frodo said: 'I'm going to take a smoke.'" - so: no deductions, no generalizations - you can read in the books about the thing they had in common (I hope I managed to explain it so that it is understandable).

The Might 12-18-2006 03:15 PM

perhaps because they all took the Morgul Road

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-18-2006 03:34 PM

Yeesss! You made it ;) They all walked "the dark valley of Morgul"... congratulations, it's your turn now :cool:

The Might 12-18-2006 04:23 PM

hmm...strange, I had though about that some time ago, but I thought that might be wrong, since Gothmog did as well...

anyway...
What do these characters have in common:
Beor
Aldor
Grimbeorn

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-18-2006 04:46 PM

They were all old (I mean, called "Old"...) :D

The Might 12-18-2006 05:05 PM

hmm...I knew I should have picked something more difficult
correct :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might
hmm...I knew I should have picked something more difficult
correct :)

Okay, I got the feeling now someone might think it seems that the two of us are attempting to take over this thread, so...
so take all the steps necessary. After that we can launch two assaults separately, PM me what thread will be the next target.
...so I'll just, erm, post another question, what do you... I mean, all you other people... say.

So, what do these people have in common?

Barliman Butterbur
Bill Ferny
Éowyn
Fatty Bolger
Farmer Maggot
Frodo
Gaffer Gamgee
Gandalf
Gríma Wormtongue
Nob
Saruman

The Might 12-19-2006 11:08 AM

I am not sure, but I guess they all talked to the Nazgul

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 11:14 AM

Correct! Okay, I think our plan works just fine thus far... :D Your turn now.

The Might 12-19-2006 11:36 AM

lol...it wasn't this hard now, since Eowyn and Bill Ferny don't really have much in common

Anyway, what do these people have in common:

Hilda Bracegirdle
Thrain II
Marmadas Brandybuck

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 11:51 AM

They had three children?

The Might 12-19-2006 11:59 AM

correct...I expected it to be more difficult...
next one please :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 02:33 PM

Erm, have you considered what are we going to say to the others when they see this thread... :rolleyes:

Anyway... okay. So, again, what do these... people... have in common:

Bilbo Baggins
Celebrimbor
Círdan
Gil-Galad
Thrór

The Might 12-19-2006 03:50 PM

they all possesed Rings of Power...

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-20-2006 06:35 AM

More people also did and they are not on the list.

Thinlómien 12-20-2006 07:05 AM

They all posessed a ring of power and gave it away.

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-20-2006 07:23 AM

Correct!
 
Correct! Gave away willingly, if I wanted to be precise. But great, your turn now!

Thinlómien 12-20-2006 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gave away willingly, if I wanted to be precise.

Well, that's what I meant. If I had wanted that they gave it away unwillingly, I probably would have said "it was taken from them". But anyway, enough about that, I have a habit of confuising people with my broken English. :)

So, what about:
Daeron
Maeglin
Ted Sandyman in the movies
Gwindor
Celebrimbor

Anyone who makes up a good theory can take the thread since I probably won't be around before next year to tell which is correct. :) This is so easy you should be able to figure out if your guess is correct or not.

Valier 12-20-2006 11:47 AM

They were all slain? Or perhaps they were all betrayed?

The Might 12-20-2006 01:30 PM

they all betrayed others

The Might 12-29-2006 10:21 AM

Thinlómien ?
almost 10 days have passed... :(

Thinlómien 01-04-2007 07:29 AM

I did say that someone with a proper answer can take it up... But since I'm back, never mind that. :)

No, no and no.

And I though that was an easy one! :D

The Might 01-04-2007 04:20 PM

strange...I mixed Daeron with Saeros the first time....
but now that I realised who Daeron really is, I have absolutely no idea...
maybe they all made poems ?

Amras Oronar 01-05-2007 01:15 PM

Hmm.... I looked over a few old ones, and a lot of them I knew, but this ones a complete riddle for me...

Thinlómien 01-07-2007 05:39 AM

Okay, you'll have a hint.

In order to be able to know about Celembrimbor, you need to have read the Unfinished Tales.
In order to know about Ted Sandyman in the movies you need to have seen the extended editions.

So focus on Daeron, Maeglin and Gwindor if you're not sure you know the others.

The list is not actually comprehensive or near to perfect. I could add Celegorm and Brandir on it, and I'd probably be still forgetting some people.

So, what do
Daeron
Maeglin
Ted Sandyman in the movies
Gwindor
Celebrimbor
Celegorm
Brandir
have in common?

Does this help at all?

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-07-2007 11:01 AM

They were all in love with someone who loved someone else. :rolleyes: I haven't seen the extended, so this brings me to... Ted Sandyman was after Rosie? :eek: That fits to the typical movie storyline, I suppose :D
Otherwise, Daeron => Lúthien; Maeglin => Idril; Gwindor => Finduilas; Celebrimbor => Galadriel; Celegorm => Lúthien; Brandir => Nienor.

Thinlómien 01-08-2007 02:28 AM

Cheers, Legate! I knew it was not that difficult. Feel free to take the thread. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc
I haven't seen the extended, so this brings me to... Ted Sandyman was after Rosie? :eek: That fits to the typical movie storyline, I suppose :D

A correct guess. Thankfully it was not emphasized too much.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-14-2007 10:06 AM

Okay, I apologize for the longer delay. What do these people have in common:

Finrod
Orodreth
Thranduil

Note: There's not only one thing they have in common, actually, there are three things - I want all three of them, since just single one of them is not significant. I hope this is not against rules, but the separate things are not so hard to think of. So, just try to think what do these people have in common, and do it three times, then add it together. Nothing so much hard. (one of these things is pretty obvious, I might add)

The Might 01-14-2007 10:56 AM

- they all lived in caves
- they all travelled eastward to their future realms
- they all had problems caused by dragons


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