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Bombadil 05-24-2004 07:00 PM

Ok, this one is tough! I'd be glad to give a clue if needed.
 
AGKCIB SHCOG KCIC NCPAIC KANNVGB HCIC ; ZXS AGKCIB HVOO SHCOO

KCIC ZQZVX HKCX KANNVG ZIC XA DAIC. GKC HVSC HAIS VB ZOO ZNALG

FAL: FAL JZX PCXC FALIBCOUCB, NLG FAL JZXXAG PAI CUCI PCXJC VG ALG.






good luck!

luthien-elvenprincess 05-24-2004 07:55 PM

Others dwelt here before hobbits were; and others will dwell here again when hobbits are no more. The wide world is all about you: you can fence yourselves, but you cannot forever fence it out.

Bombadil 05-24-2004 07:58 PM

haha, wow. Even as I was typing that it was tough i still figured Luthien would get it. Awesome job! So prompt also! You're up :D

luthien-elvenprincess 05-25-2004 03:13 AM

hehehe, I do seem to have a knack for this type of puzzle. ;)
Here is, I hope, an easy one...I am leaving on a 7 day trip tomorrow and am not sure if I can get internet access without paying alot for it!

'PH P KT PA PF EGM HKMIA,' FAPD BPIBG. 'PA PF TPVL, P ALII EGM. TE GSN. TE CNLUPGMF. ELF, TE CNLUPGMF.

(owww, I wasn't even trying to make a word with this, but 'elf' came out! Somehow, I find things like that to be cool :rolleyes: )

Bombadil 06-02-2004 05:52 PM

well, i gave time duiring your leave to see if anyone would join this game besides me, and no- but that's fine! I'll just have to give the answer! *Btw, there were some discrepancies, like in the "said Bilbo" part, you had some letters representing themselves. Just letting you know! Here it is:


'If I am it is your fault,' said Bilbo. 'It is mine, I tell you. My own. My precious. Yes, my precious.'

luthien-elvenprincess 06-02-2004 09:28 PM

Ah, so I did...I was in a hurry in making it...with packing and all. Sorry :rolleyes: You are correct with the answer.
This is a great game, I don't understand why others don't get involved :confused:
Your turn.

Bombadil 06-29-2004 02:14 PM

Let's get this rolling again!
 
Sorry! I forgot all about this game - although I think the only person I'm apologizing to is Luthien, lol. Here's a new one! It's been awhile...



XLV FV FA ABFC VTBV GPV LGVFZ VTBV TPLY TBC ALWT WPZC VTPLMTVA YLZDC

TFU; EPY FGCDDC ATD KTPU TD TBC ZPNDC KBA BUBYFD PE VTD NBGQBY, BGC ATD

KDGV GPV KEVT TFU FGVP DIFZD.

luthien-elvenprincess 06-29-2004 07:48 PM

Hi Bombadil :) , I figured it out...but I will wait a few days to see if someone else may, perhaps, answer. :)

Bombadil 06-29-2004 07:49 PM

Ha! I knew you'd get it! Smart move by the way, maybe we should start doing that everytime, because it also takes awhile to make one of those up! :)

Firefoot 06-29-2004 07:53 PM

If you don't mind my asking, I have never for the life of me been able to get these things. How do you go about solving them?

Bombadil 06-29-2004 08:01 PM

Some good tips are looking for certain repetitions of common words.

Par example:

UHG UGG WQSAX UHG OPZZ.

In most cases the UGH would represent "The" or "And." A lot of times it's process of elimination. In this case it represents the. So far you'd have:

The tee WQSAX The OPZZ.

If somewhere else in the clause you see a single letter it has to be an I or an A in almost all cases. These are some strategies, but basically you have to do them and practice them. Usually when someone starts out it's good to have one or two hints. So if you'd like one just ask ;)

By the way, my little example cryptogram says, "The tee holds the ball." :D

Firefoot 06-29-2004 08:03 PM

okay, that should help. Thanks for the tips!

Firefoot 06-29-2004 08:21 PM

Now I can feel proud of myself for figuring it out :)
Quote:

But it is said that not until this hour had such cold thoughts ruled him; for indeed she whom he had loved was Amarië of the Vanyar, and she went not with him into exile.

Bombadil 06-29-2004 09:03 PM

Correct! Luthien we have another player! ;)

luthien-elvenprincess 06-30-2004 09:19 AM

Great job Firefoot. Way to go! It didn't take you long to catch on! :)
Good tips, Bombadil. Also, it helps to realize that certain letters, such as 'E', 'S', 'T', etc, are used alot in the language. So look for letters that are used alot in the crypto and see if some of those fit in. Trial and error work. Look for double letters in words too, these are usually 'LL' or 'EE" or something like that. The easiest cryptos to figure out are ones that have a single letter in the puzzle, because this has to be an 'A' or 'I'.

Can't wait for the next one! :D

Firefoot 06-30-2004 11:46 AM

CR CH IVHR RD YDNV BCXHR JZLR GDE LXV BCRRVA RD YDNV, C HEQQDHV: GDE KEHR HRLXR HDKVJZVXV LWA ZLNV HDKV XDDRH, LWA RZV HDCY DB RZV HZCXV CH AWQ.

luthien-elvenprincess 06-30-2004 05:16 PM

Not sure of the last word...but, how about

It is best to love first what you are fitted to love, I suppose you must start somewhere and have some roots and the soil of the Shire is deep.

Firefoot 06-30-2004 07:10 PM

That's correct.

luthien-elvenprincess 07-01-2004 04:00 PM

ufb Mrs Unms Fu Pfmrpfbtsa Hfc Nbs Afm Najesbnyps, Ycm Faph Ufb Mrs Lftaw Fu Afcb Fea Mnjv. Hsm T Ofcpl Etjr, Esbs Tm Fu Nah Ndntp, Mrnm Mrs Fas Btaw Rnl Asdsb Yssa Ebfcwrm, Fb Rnl Bszntasl Ufb Sdsb Pfjm.

Firefoot 07-01-2004 05:18 PM

Quote:

"For the fate of Lothlorien you are not answerable, but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost."
That is Galadriel to Frodo.

luthien-elvenprincess 07-01-2004 08:23 PM

You caught on very quickly, Firefoot ;) Correct

Firefoot 07-02-2004 02:28 PM

Thanks. :)

KYFF, X’FF MLXWY MRLY RG WUXM HYPMWFS HCRRB HYGRCY WUY YDB. X KXMH X VRJFB MYY VRRF MJDFXOUW PDB OCYYD OCPMM POPXD!

Niluial 07-02-2004 03:57 PM

well, I’ll smite some of this beastly brood before the end. I wish I could see cool sunlight and green grass again!

Is that right?

Firefoot 07-02-2004 04:45 PM

Yes.

Niluial 07-02-2004 07:22 PM

KIYP TOR QPM MOXCPLB OR BQP YLEIGYAPA QPOSPL, KYB QPM PJPR TPMP FMPJ OR BQP RBOMIXB PSPLXLF; QPM COLBIP TOR RPTL TXBQ FGIAPL HIGTPMR, KYB QPM QOXM TOR AOMU OR BQP RQOAGTR GH BTXIXFQB.

Hint: The Silmarillion.

Bombadil 07-02-2004 09:54 PM

I believe it is...
 
Blue was her raiment as the unclouded heaven, but her eyes were grey as the starlit evening; her mantle was sewn with golden flowers, but her hair was dark as the shadows of twilight.

Niluial 07-03-2004 06:08 AM

That is correct :D. Don’t you just love that piece, absolutely beautiful.

Bombadil 07-06-2004 11:29 AM

Truly!
 
Ok here we go...



"BYD, CFYG NLGC," JMF JYKC, "SMYS VMLKVF KJ NLBA LHFG. SMFGF KJ BLQ BL JMKO

SMYS QLENC IFYG RF MFBVF YBC K REJS KBCFFC YIKCF SMF CLLR LW RFB,

QMFSMFG K QKNN LG K BKNN: SMF NLJJ YBC SMF JKNFBVF."

Mirkgirl 07-06-2004 11:52 AM

"Nay, dear Lord," she said, "that choice is long over. There is now no ship that would bear me hence and I muse indeed abide the doom of men, whether I will or I nill: the loss and the silence."

Bombadil 07-06-2004 12:27 PM

Perfect! Except where you wrote "muse" it is "must." No biggie though, thanks for your participation, this game is starting to get bigger! You're up!

Mirkgirl 07-06-2004 02:13 PM

Well e is just 2 keys away from t.... I have to learn to type one of these days lol

It's a neat game :D

Quote:

REQ XTFD ZEEO LTFAPLY, ISQ QE QAT LEWRQ - WG DES RTTO JEFT ITDERO QAT HEFO EG TUFERO. WG QAPQ HPY HEFQA P KESFRTD EG P ASROFTO PRO QTR OPDY QE ATPF, DES APO ITYQ UWYQTR QE WQ.
Might be a bit too difficult... but it does have a good deal of short words too... and the name of a certain elven lord in it... consider it a hint (:

Firefoot 07-06-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

"Not very good perhaps, but to the point- if you need more beyond the word of Elrond. If that was worth a journey of a hundred and ten days to hear, you had best listen to it."
Bilbo to Gandalf.

This is a very satisfying game to get right. :)

Mirkgirl 07-07-2004 04:31 AM

:) right you are ofc... your turn

Firefoot 07-07-2004 12:51 PM

GBS GLJ RBQB HOPY MDYBBY SL QBIBMFB LJQ PMY RTBD GLJ IPXB PS OPNS SL STBNB NTLQBN, VPMDS-TBPQSBY OLMSBQBQN, PDY RBOODMHT BXUSGTPDYBY.

luthien-elvenprincess 07-07-2004 08:48 PM

Yet you were glad indeed to receive our aid when you came at last to these shores, faint-hearted loiterers, and wellnigh emptyhanded.

Firefoot 07-08-2004 05:25 AM

Yep.

luthien-elvenprincess 07-08-2004 03:53 PM

alrighty-then:

DWEYJKN LRHSO OLCILD UPOOPJ: OSPG KLCILD UPOOPJ OSPJP WN IL QRJNP WI PAZWNS, PIOWNS, LJ OSP OLIHRPN LB FPI UYK PILRHS BLJ NRQS OJPYQSPJG. KLDI DWOS NYJRFYI!

Niluial 07-14-2004 11:10 AM

May we have a clue?

Bombadil 07-14-2004 12:27 PM

Wizards ought to know better: They do know better. There is no curse in elvish, entish, or the tongues of men bad enough for such treachery. Down with Saruman!

luthien-elvenprincess 07-14-2004 03:57 PM

Good job, Bombadil. Your turn!


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