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Fingolfin II 06-14-2004 03:50 AM

Nope- think of races and their relationships.

NightKnight 06-14-2004 07:19 AM

Men fought against men in all except Five Armies?

Fingolfin II 06-15-2004 01:22 AM

Nope. Congratulations on 1500 posts by the way.

NightKnight 06-15-2004 04:46 AM

Thanks. :)

Fingolfin II 06-18-2004 12:24 AM

Anyone else want a go? It's both hard and easy, once you get it.

Mithalwen 06-18-2004 01:13 PM

I am stymied I think... I had a vague idea about dead uncles (Thorin & Theoden ..)iuntill you specified that the relationship was between races..

Gil-Galad 06-18-2004 05:02 PM

Pelennor fields was only battle where men fought versus orcs, no elves came too help them (save legolas)...the others included elves and other races

Fingolfin II 06-18-2004 11:10 PM

Nope- think Elves and Dwarves.

NightKnight 06-19-2004 04:32 AM

Elves and dwarves didn't fight together in the War of Wrath, even if it was only Gimli and Legolas on Pelennor.

Fingolfin II 06-19-2004 08:03 PM

Nope- I can't remember the quote, but it says the dwarves of Durin's line fought on the side of the Elves.

*BIG hint*- the answer is the Battle of Five armies; now tell me why.

NightKnight 06-20-2004 07:35 AM

It says they fought together in the Last Alliance, not the War of Wrath.

Gil-Galad 06-20-2004 12:16 PM

only place the 4 races defended a place which they fueded for, showed unity in them and the end of Gundabad Orcs

Fingolfin II 06-21-2004 12:49 AM

Really? Sorry about that, but it still wasn't what I had in mind NightKnight- my bad. Anyway, Gil-Galad has gotten it.

Gil-Galad 06-21-2004 04:29 PM

oh goody...



battle of sudden flame
Fall of Gondolin
wakening of the Balrog
battle under the trees (ask me if you don't know what this is)

Fingolfin II 06-22-2004 01:40 AM

What is the battle under the trees?

Anyway, I'll say it is the battle I don't know, because there were no fire-breathing creatures (dragons) or fire-scourges (balrogs) present?

Gil-Galad 06-22-2004 06:59 AM

Battle under the trees was the Silvan "donation" to the war of the ring, Celeborn lead the lorien elves aganest Dol Guldur and during the battle he met Thranduil, who was leading the mirkwood elves, after the battle Galadriel threw down its gates and cleansed the land with her light...in the fourth age it was added to the land of LothLorien and called East Lorien, while Thranduil gained all the forest north of it...and no sorry

NightKnight 06-22-2004 07:30 AM

Wakening of the Balrog (Durin's Bane?) - No elves.

Gil-Galad 06-22-2004 11:05 AM

nope!

Mithalwen 06-26-2004 12:11 PM

Well I am going to say it is the battle trees because it led to old strongholds / territory being regained. The elves reagained their old lands in Southern Mirkwood. But the others involved the loss/ destruction of stronghoilds/territory.... Gondolin self evidently, Awakening of the Balrog meant the Dwarves had to leave Moria (and many elves fled Lorien), the fortresses of Angrod and Aegnor and Maglor's Gap were lost during the battle of Sudden Flame...

Gil-Galad 06-26-2004 12:16 PM

though they really didn't have any strongholds/territory there in the first place....nope!

you are actually rather close

Mithalwen 06-26-2004 12:29 PM

If you mean southern Mirkwood, I think that in UT it says something about Oropher having to move his people northwards from Amon Lanc ... but I don't have it on me and Oropher is one of those slightly iffy characters who complicate matters by going against what is said in the primary texts...... but I'll have another think..... but I fear that was my best shot....

NightKnight 06-28-2004 05:08 PM

Wakening of the Balrog, then.

There was a great fire under the trees in Mirkwood.
Battle of Sudden Flame - Duh.
Fall of Gondolin - There was lots of fire and devastation there...
There is no account of any fire when the Balrog awoke.

Gil-Galad 06-28-2004 08:29 PM

nope!


Hint: its what they did

Mithalwen 07-02-2004 12:27 PM

Don't feel this is different to my previous go but..... but... the battle under trees because it resulted in a place being cleansed whereas the others led to a place being degraded.....

Gil-Galad 07-04-2004 04:34 PM

nope! come on its rather easy!

Gil-Galad 07-05-2004 10:18 PM

Hint : it has to do with elves, so that rules out


battle of sudden flame
Fall of Gondolin

wakening of the Balrog
battle under the trees

Gil-Galad 07-16-2004 12:04 PM

BIG hint: instead of retreating they go forward!

Gil-Galad 07-19-2004 12:03 PM

Hint: its Battle under the Trees, now tell me why!

The Perky Ent 07-21-2004 07:42 PM

Battle under the trees because (long shot) Galadriel goes into Dol Guldur, showing that she charges into the castle/fort/stronghold. In the others, they're going away from it. As I said, a long shot!

Gil-Galad 07-21-2004 09:34 PM

Perfect Aim! Battle under the Trees was the only ones where Elves, or any other free races, actually advance aganest teh evil, rather then retreat or be attacked! good job!

The Perky Ent 07-22-2004 04:27 PM

Rightio! Here's the next batch:

War of Wrath
Battle of Bywater
Battle of Azanulbizar
Pelenor Fields
Fall of Gondolin
Battle of Five Armies



Quite a selection! Have fun!

Gil-Galad 07-22-2004 04:47 PM

Pelenor fields was only place where another army joined in to help the Gondorians?

The Perky Ent 07-22-2004 09:12 PM

No, and because there's so many options, I'll give a little hint with each wrong answer. It has nothing to do with Gondorians. I don't know if that helps, but it's a start :D

Gil-Galad 07-23-2004 10:26 AM

War of the Wrath didn't involve men?

The Perky Ent 07-23-2004 10:30 AM

No. It has nothing to do with the involvement of races

Fingolfin II 07-23-2004 09:53 PM

The Battle of Bywater involved someone turning against his own side (Grima killing Saruman)?

And Perky, do you mean the Battle of Five Armies? :)

The Perky Ent 07-23-2004 10:23 PM

So I did. And as for your question, nope. nothing to do with changing sides.

Morsul the Dark 07-23-2004 11:37 PM

the battle of five armies was the only one that bilbo was present?

The Perky Ent 07-24-2004 09:20 AM

No, and it has nothing to do with the present-ness of people.

Morsul the Dark 07-24-2004 09:21 AM

fall of gondol;in is the only one where a country fell?


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