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Thingol 06-15-2002 06:24 PM

Well Gandalf is a maia also, so maybe that will clear things up for your brother. The Istari, or wizzards, were are all maiar, incarnated into the form of elderly men, and sent to Middle Earth by the Valar.

Greyhame 06-15-2002 07:17 PM

Did Glamdring (Gandalf's sword) survive the fall into the chasm at Moria? If it did, that could explain how Gandalf defeated the Balrog without his staff.

Wait, when talking to Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli upon his return, he says: "Ever I hewed at him..." That would insinuate possesion of a sword, wouldn't it? I love it when I answer my own question.

Anyway, I used to be called Child of Eru around here, and now I'm back. Hi, everyone.

*Varda* 06-16-2002 04:44 AM

Welcome back! Have fun and post often

akhtene 06-16-2002 04:48 PM

To my mind wizards's stuffs were more like part of their being (and they were, well, magical beings themselves) than some material objects. This can explain why Gandalf kept his stuff while being a prisoner of Saruman, who would have probably taken it away if it could be done. But this is what Frodo saw in his dream in Bombadil's house:
Quote:

In the midst of the plain stood a pinacle of stone, like a vast tower but not made by hands. On its top stood a figure of a man... The figure lifted his arms and a light flashed from the stuff that he wielded. A mighty eagle swept down and bore him away.
So Gandalf escaped from Saruman with his stuff.

As for Gandalf's return after the battle with Balrog, he doesn't seem to have anything with him at all
Quote:

Naked I was sent back - for a brief time, untill my task is done. And naked I lay upon the mountain top... I was alone, forgotten, without escape...
He was then carried to Lorien where he "was clothed in white". Maybe there, from elves, he also got the new stuff (or the material part of it)

Anyway, how exactly did the wizards use their stuffs? Well, for walking, as a common weapon, as a torch; but what about purely magical purposes? Were any actions performed with the stuff to make magic stronger? Nothing comes to my mind, though I didn't search.


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