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Aosama, the Wandering Star 06-26-2002 05:24 PM

Hmmm... I'd like a light sword, and a longbow. Of course, this in the fantastical world where I could actually *hold* any of these... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Aldagrim Proudfoot 06-27-2002 06:20 AM

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a slang-shot(is that what the're called? The thing that David used to kill the giant? I've heard that if you know how to use them, the're more accerate them a Bow & Arrow)
A slingshot is the cord between the wishbone shaped stick. David used a sling. The strip of leather and pouch for throwing the stone. And they are powerful.

Tar-Haydon 06-27-2002 06:55 AM

A very pointy stick. Possibly painted red to make it look scarier.

Aldagrim Proudfoot 06-27-2002 01:39 PM

Welcome Tar-Haydon! Love your sig

The Silver-shod Muse 06-27-2002 01:54 PM

The Central Asian compound bow, or Hungarian/Mongol bow, is superior to the longbow in both distance, force and maneuverability. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img].

I love the Mongol culture and history, but I understand that those bows take two people to string because the arms are bent backwards to shoot, which is why it wouldn't be my weapon of choice.

[ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: The Silver-shod Muse ]

legolas991610 06-27-2002 02:09 PM

Weapons

When choosing a weapon you have to take into consideration you situation. Are you a solo traveller or part of a party [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]? What is your class (nobility/Peasant), what is your style? Below I have broken down weapons.

Daggers – Used by commonly as a secondary or tertiary weapon. Archers would often double team opponents on the battlefield with on distracting and one slitting the throat or attacking from behind. Used, as a pocketknife would be today. (e.g. Swiss Army Knife)

Short Swords – Used by early cavalry as a primary or secondary weapon alternating with a short spear. A backup weapon for almost every type of warrior and an effective weapon.

Long/ 2 Handed Swords – The nobility’s weapon. Expensive to make and were customized for the user. Could take down charging cavalry and batter down armour and shields

Stabbing Spear – This shot 5-7’ spear was used to stab an enemy from a distance. Could outreach a sword and was used my lower ranks. Also thrown.

Long Spear – Also includes pikes and lances. Used to discourage cavalry charges. A good example would be the Phalanxes pf ancient Greece. Too long to be used effectively by a solitary person.

Crossbow – And expensive version of the bow, that is more powerful but less range. The upper classes bow

Bows (all types) – Peasants weapon (of war, used by upper classes for hunting) medium to long ranges.

Axes – strong weapon, all classes. Well balanced to reduce tiring and very powerful

Clubs (all types, pointed and non pointed) – Used to Bash, no finesse here. All classes, Higher the class greater the cost and quality of the weapon.

When choosing a weapon you have to look at what it is that you are trying to do with it. Few of the races in Tolkien’s world cold have carried more than 2 of the larger weapons and the plausibility of their effectiveness decreases with more weapons. Most races would have trained their warriors in different weapons but not more than one or two. By doing that they produce better fighters. I would have chosen a Long Sword, a small wooden club and a dagger. I would have a medium shield I carry on my back(similar but not the same as Boromir)

I am tired or I would have written more on the weapons. If you want to discuss the merits of weapons with me, I would love to.

[ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: Flanagan ]

The Silver-shod Muse 06-29-2002 12:40 AM

Very cool Flanagan! And welcome to the Downs! RIP. I would love to talk weapons with you, but I'm afraid that you'd leave me in the dust in no time due to my insufferable ignorance. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Cimmerian 06-29-2002 04:48 AM

A Barbarian longsword. Well crafted metal. 4'6 foot long, twin edged blade fitted firmly on to a swivelling neck and foot long handle. Around 90 - 100 pounds in weight. Strong enough to chop down a pine tree in one swipe.

A large battle axe too, strapped upon my back, weighing 140 pounds. 4 foot handle and a double bit, twin edged axe head. Foot and a half high and 3 feet wide.

Assortment of daggers and darts.

I would defintely travel alone but also do well with small groups. I scoff at all those class distinctions. When you live by the sword, all men are equal.

[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Shadow of Udûn 06-29-2002 07:31 AM

Narsil's don't kill people, people kill people.

Thinlaithion 07-02-2002 08:06 AM

Flanagan, I'd love to talk weapons with you any time, they are a subject that I find very interesting.

Well, as an elf, I would carry a longbow, possibly from Lothlorien. I would have a short sword at either side, a couple of daggers at assorted places, and a few throwing axes and knives. You can't be too prepared for war. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Also, in my shoe, I would have a blade (anyone see Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) which would come out when I needed it for up close combat.

the phantom 07-02-2002 11:25 AM

I like spears. Good reach, good for blocking, and can be thrown. Then of course I'd need a back-up. (Although, if I was fighting a particularly mean guy, like a balrog, I wouldn't settle for anything less than a nuke)

Aldagrim Proudfoot 07-03-2002 03:56 PM

Flanagan, where did you get all that info? is there a site somewhere? btw, welcome to the Downs

Aldagrim Proudfoot 07-03-2002 03:56 PM

Flanagan, where did you get all that info? is there a site somewhere? btw, welcome to the Downs

I'm a Shade of Carn Dum, now!

rutslegolas 02-02-2004 01:47 AM

i think if i am travelling in a group :-
i would like a long bow,a short sword(backup weapon),and a spear

if i travel alone then bows are a nuisance so:-

i would have a doublehanded sword ,a axe on the back , and a shield(very important for lone warriors)

Estelyn Telcontar 02-02-2004 01:57 PM

Ah, an old opinion topic has popped up that was lurking in the depths of the Books forum! I'm moving it to the Novices and Newcomers forum, where those are now placed.

Kransha 02-02-2004 03:01 PM

Well, what I'd want is a mace, namely Grond, Hammer of the Underworld. Of course, I'd have to have the strength of the Valar to weild such a weapon. Another good weapon is Gothmog's Flaming Whip. It's stylish AND pyromaniac-friendly.

Of course, if I were a simple being, not superpower endowed, I would have a long thin sword, similar to a rapier but not the same. In real life, I'm pretty good with fencing weapons and bows and arrows. I'd be better with a short bow, since long bows require an insane level of strength, which I, unfortunately, lack.

Ashton 02-02-2004 08:44 PM

Well, I personally would love to learn archery. I have always had a preferance to a bow and arrow over anyhting else. I think that they are (mostly) only good for long range fighting. So you need something to back you up.

For close range fighting I really couldn't choose between a sword or an ax. They both could probably do the same job. It would really depend on wich one I could find of a better quality. A qualit weapon can be a difference between life and death in a battle.

Finwe 02-02-2004 09:49 PM

Oh, archery is a definite must! I'm already learning it, and I'm a pretty good archer, so I think that I'll stick with bows for long-range fighting.

For short-range fighting, I'm kind of "ok" with a sword, so I'll stick with a light, Elven sword. It's probably going to be more easily maneuverable for someone my size (I'm 5'2" and 125 lbs.) rather than a broadsword.

steve 02-02-2004 10:03 PM

I would most lilley wield these:
Cho-ka-nu (chineese invented repeating crossbow load a clip of bolts and crank the crank and it fires repeadadly)
Halberd
Scimatar

Finwe 02-02-2004 10:06 PM

Hmm... that cho-ka-nu thing sounds interesting. Now only if they made a recurve that fired like that. *sigh*

Imladris 02-02-2004 10:29 PM

I must say I have always fancied archery (of course my love for elves has had nothing to do with that [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] ), but the dagger has also appealed to me. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Swords are cool, but I sucked at fencing so...

But daggers and bows rock!

Finwe 02-02-2004 10:32 PM

Definitely!


I would think that you would have to be remarkably swift to stay alive fighting with a dagger. I'd prefer the longer reach of a sword, or perhaps one of the Elven blades that the crew designed for the movies. You know, the ones that look like a cross between a spear and a sword. I like the reach of those and the curved blade, and also the fact that they're not as unwieldy as spears in close quarters.

Althern 02-03-2004 05:48 AM

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I'd probably use a sword and a halbred (sp?)
Certainly, Halbarad and his two score of Dunedain would be my weapon of choice.

Kransha 02-03-2004 06:57 AM

Well, if we're just talking about weapons in general....

-A Nice Old Fashion Gladius never lets you down

-If I were an orc, here's the sword for me

-And, of course, there's this which sorta speaks for itself

-If I were a dwarf, laddie!

I've got more, but I won't post them now.
That's most of the ideal choices. *drools*

steve 02-03-2004 08:46 PM

A Halbard, other then being a Dunedain is a long polearm with an ax head on the end and most of the time a spike on the other end, used by supporting infintry against calvry along with pikes

Elassar 516 02-03-2004 09:36 PM

I am the kind of person who maintains that there is no such thing as to many weapons, at the very least I would cary:
A long sword, a short sword, a good hunting bow (for hinting orcs that is), a knife (somwhat like the one Celeborn gives Aragorn), and half a dozen throwing daggers.
For defense, some sort of chain mail, preferably made by dwarves and I would have no objections to having it made out of Mithril, a shield, I've always fancied Boromirs, and of course you can never go wrong with having a bodygaurd, especialy since I have know idea how to actualy use any of those weapons.

The Mushroom 02-14-2004 01:47 PM

A sword! A nice glowing one! Or maybe a bow and some arrows (I'm not too keen on hand-to-hand combat). Or maybe a nice, hard cooking pot!:D


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