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Re: Sam´s brothers-in-law

The only thing I can think of is that you are mistakingly equating Peregrin Took as a brother-in-law.
If not; then I surrender.

Main Entry: brother-in-law
1 : the brother of one's spouse
2 a : the husband of one's sister b : the husband of one's spouse's
sister

Sam and Peregrin are fathers-in-law.
That's about the best that is available.

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Sam´s brother-in-law

OK, maybe my level of English isn´t very high, but I have always believed I´m not stupid, I was asking for the brother of Sam´s wife that appears in The Lord of the Rings.

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Re: Sam´s brother-in-law

I meant no insult.

I gave all three of her brothers.

Is there another that I am unaware of?

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Re: Sam´s brother-in-law

Well, I think I've understood Grond's question <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> . Maybe Saulotus has forgotten one more: Nibs, who, while the battle of Bywater was taken place, was with Rose Cotton at home.<img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin">
I admire Saulotus' effort, and thanks to all his answers, I think he may ask next, but it's Grond who has to decide it.

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Re: Sam´s brother-in-law

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> By Envinyatar 7
'Maybe Saulotus has forgotten one more: Nibs...'<hr></blockquote>

Tolman Cotton Jr. (nicknamed Tom) Given in answer already
Wilcome Cotton (nicknamed Jolly) Given in answer already
Bowman Cotton (nicknamed Nick) Given in answer already
Carl Cotton (nicknamed Nibs) Given in answer already

Perhaps now you can understand the confusion.

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Re: Sam´s brother-in-law

Maybe my book is incorrectly typed, but I think Sam mentioned another one when crossing Gorgoroth. I´ll read that chapter again, and I´ll say tomorrow if Saulotus was right all this time.
P.S: Welcome to the forum, Envinyatar!

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Re: Sam's brother-in-law

Well, I think I finally got it!!
The answer I hope Grond is looking for is Nipo. And sorry, Saulotus, I thought Nibs was not in your answers and he was another hobbit you didn't mention.

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Sam's brothers-in-law

Envinyatar finally got it!
Now ask us!

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Orcs

At last, here goes my first question.
Tell me the name of all the orcs that appear in LOTR, and I mean the names mentioned in LOTR although the orcs do not appear themselves. There are at least 11.

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Orcs

5 names from the top of my head:
Ugluk, Grisnakh, Snaga, Shagrat and Gorbag.

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Re: Orcs

Lagduf (Cirith Ungol), Lugdush (Isengard), Muzgash (Cirith Ungol), Radbug(?Cirith Ungol), maybe Azog and Bolg (don't know whether they are mentioned; Misty Mts.), maybe Golfimbul (Misty Mts.), old Ufthak (Cirith Ungol), and of course Mauhúr (Isengard). That's be 6 for sure, plus Grond's five.

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Re: Orcs

First of all, sorry for the late reply but well, Sharku's answer is more than perfect. I think that Azog, Bolg and Golfimbul are not mentioned and I had the other 11, but it's logical Sharku found the answer, you old man. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">
Then, ask us Sharku.

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Re: Orcs

For about how long lay Smaug unbothered on his hoard?

And of course do I know my orcs <img src=devil.gif ALT=":evil">

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Re: Orcs

Third Age 2770 through 2941, 171 years. Somehow, far less than I expected.

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were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Orcs

Most definitely, yes.

<h6> Be still, O wand'rer! / Dost thou not hear the sad song of night? / How the wind does beckon thee to rest for a while / and to lend him thine ear? / What woeful tale does it tell tonight? / What tragedy of old? </h6></p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Orcs

Other than Treebeard himself, what are the names of the two next oldest ents at the time of Merry and Pippin's visit to Fangorn?

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"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Orcs

Finglas and Fladrif?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Orcs

Correct. Your question.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Orcs

To continue with the topic, how many toes did Treebeard have?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Orcs

This question is worth a guess: 6?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Orcs

Yes, hammer, you're right. What you did was a guess but not the right answer. <img src=http:/ /www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT= ";)">

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It's always the same: I had to guess between two numbers and I chose the wrog one.
So the: the answer is 7.
I must have guessed it, as Tolkien seemed to like 7 (the sons of Feanor, the portal of Gondolin...)

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Treebeard

Well, the right answer is 14 toes, 7 each foot, but I'll accept it as I think this was your answer, wasn't it?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Treebeard

Galadriel says, when the company was at Lothlorien, that Frodo had only used the Ring three times. What were these three times?

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The first time Frodo used the Ring was at Bombadil's house to make sure that the Ring was the one he gave Tom, the second time was in Bree at the Prancing Poney (? I'm not sure, I mean Barliman's one), and the third was when Frodo was attacked by Boromir to escape from him.

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Correct. Ask us.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ring

Boromir went after him after Lothlorien.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ring

Sorry. I had connected only to say that, but Burra did it before, so the question is still going on. Sorry!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Treebeard

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> By Grond
as Tolkien seemed to like 7 (the sons of Feanor, the portal of Gondolin...)<hr></blockquote>
7 is generally held to be a sacred and magical number.
Genesis.. creation in 7 days and the Mystic Arts; in that repetition of something 7 times (incantations etc.) holds that it is representative of infinity as two glaring examples.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: 3 times

Yes, you're right, burra, I didn't notice that. The other time was at the Weathertop (??, is this correct?) when Frodo was attacked by Nazgul.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: 3 times

And sorry, please excuse my ignorance.

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000268>Envinyat ar 7</A> at: 11/23/00 11:48:50 am

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: 3 times

Correct. It's all yours, Envinyatar.

And... Saulotus, I already knew it. I was joking.

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000121>Grond</A> at: 11/23/00 3:26:15 pm

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Húrin

In LOTR appears another Húrin apart from Húrin Thalion. Who's that Húrin and how is he called?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hoorin the Tall

Hurin (pardon my lack of accents) the Tall, Warden of the Keys of Gondor.

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You're right, Gwaihir. Your turn to ask.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Re.Húrin

Who sang the song that appears in my signature?

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An eagle asks and an eagle is the answer. I don´t think its name is mentioned but I'll explain where the songs appears. It's after the final battle in front of Morannon, when a great eagle flies over Minas Tirith and sings that song.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Re.song

Yes, Eviyatar, an eagle is the answer. I would also have accepted Gwaihir as that is the most obvious eagle to fill the position. Ask us!

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What kind of animals used to hunt Vorondil?

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The wild white kine of Orome. But if I recall correctly weren't they hunted by Vorondil, not the other way around?

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