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what was the item(s) (in connection with Gandalf) mostly remembered by Bilbo at their first (after hobbit's coming of age) encounter?

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Just wanted to be the 5000th post in the Quiz Forum. hee hee!! <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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"He was as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer."</p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: 5000!!

Seeing how they are exploding before my very eyes, the answer must be 'fireworks'.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: cause

they are, thogh to firework you may apply even a word &quot;event&quot; . In fact I'm looking for a slightly different answer - a proper &quot;item&quot; <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: cause

The pair of magic diamond studs given to the Old Took, The tales he told, The fireworks, and the Adventures. Im pretty sure that covers everything.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> enough, enough...

studs were enough,really. go ahead

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Why did Gandalf break the bridge in Moria?

P.S. I may be wrong, but I think that there was a good reason for it. (If not many <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> )

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Gandalf broke the bridge to send the Balrog (AKA Durin's Bane) into the abyss it spanned... thats the only reason i can think off... unless he had the thought in the back of his mind that if it didnt sink the Balrog then at least the other creatures behind couldnt get across... <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

That is why I didnt think I should have asked that question. I didnt want to turn down people for good guesses, so I will give it to you Watcher.

The real reason I was thinking of was because he did not want Aragorn and Boromir (And maybe Legolas too) to try and come and help him. I remembered reading that they were running up to help and that is when Gandalf broke the bridge. So I always thought that he did it not only to keep the orcs from coming and to kill the Balrog, but also to save his freinds from trying to fight the foe that would kill them if they tried.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

I can definately see where you are coming from with your theory... when i think about it, it seems to make the most sense!

Anyhow...

What was the old name of Lorien as told by Fangorn to Merry and Pippin, and what did it mean when translated?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Laurelindórinan

Laur=Gold
elin=Song
dor=Land
nan=Valley

Land of The Valley of Singing Gold

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Correctamundo!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

What people/contry of our world inspired Tolkien when he created the Gondorians? (People of Gondor)
Im thinking inspiration conserning tradition and style of clothing.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Byzantium? For there are several similar lines, it seems to me

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Yes, H-I there are. But it was not the civilication Tolkien thought of.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> No Clue

Holy Roman Empire?

- Maglor

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Nope... think of the crown of Gondor (and modify it a little)

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Greek? (My answer for everything)

By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Nope! How did they burrie their kings? that might lead you on...

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Gondor

Ancient Israel?

- Maglor

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Actually I dont know how kings were burried in ancient Israel. It was not what I was thinking of though JRRT said that the monoteist ancient Israel was the place that resembled Gondorian tradition on religion closest.
Think: Crown + burial <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000018>Telchar</A> at: 6/5/01 7:46:43 am

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

The ancient Egyptians?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

No, the egyptians didn't have crowns.

Would it be the Anglo-Saxons?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Obvious Answers

Okay - I avoided these answers because I thought that they were too obvious, but clearly it must be one of them:

Romans or Romano-Britains
Normans
Franks

Is it one of these?

- Maglor


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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

The Soviet Union? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Who is it.. this is not fun.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

No No - Beregond - You got it rigth! I was a astonished too! It is the ancient egyptians.

For one thing the Faraos wore a high helmlike thingy very much alike to the crown of Gondor - just without the wings - And the Gondorians was very obsessed with tombs and they embalmed their Kings.
Tolkien wrote this in a letter to a woman who asked, among other things, about the design of the crown of Gondor. In the letter he also made a sketch drawing of the crown <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

<img src=smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> So go on Beregond

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Who would have known? <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

What was the birth-name of Falastur?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Tarannon - The first of the Ship Kings and also the first childless king.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Absolutely!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

What date was Bilbo/Frodos birthday?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

September 22nd..

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Ohh Yes - Go on <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

According to Gandalf, what does a wizard need one or two of?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

hobbits

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Yes, that line by Pippin made me actually laugh.. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> I still like it. Go on, Telchar.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

how old was Aragorn when he died?

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I seem to remember 180

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you remember wrong - Sorry

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

200 years.

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I remember reading it, but I cant seem to find the page. I forget the exact age, but I will guess 214 years.

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