Boromir would kick his little brother's butt! Beorn would beat Aragorn, king or not (they were so much tougher back in Beorn's day [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ) The Gaffer would beat Maggot, Galadriel would smoosh her son in law, Glorfindel would totally kill Legolas, he would also beat Gandalf, Gandalf is too old and creaky, Eomer would beat Faramir (not a good day for Faramir), but he gets to beat Eowyn, and is there anyone I forgot? That was a looong run on sentence! Oh yeah, Merry and Pippin, close one, but I think Pippin (book Pippin, movie Pippin...a disappointment) [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Okay I'm done now.

Well if we gave them tight bikiny's to wear and let them wrestle in a boxing ring to the vieuw of paying customers we could make a lot of money and I would shure like to see arwen when she..... Oh wait i'm losing it.

What about Glorfindel VS Legolas with both knives in melee combat and within a no magic area?(Yeah without his magic Legolas will kick his *** and finish him with that beautifull knife backhand sweep trick)

[ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Helkahothion ]
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OK, how about these matchups-

Saruman vs Balrog
Gimli vs Boromir
Thranduil vs Aragorn
Treebeard vs one of the Nazgul
Landroval vs Shelob
Lotho SB vs Fatty Bolger

Here I go:

It would be a close fight but Boromir would beat Gimli (barely). Treebeard would do considerable damage to a Nazgul, and Nazgul are really amazing, but I'd have to say Treebeard, he would definetly win the fight, but I don't think he would kill a Nazgu, those guys just don't die. I don't know Landroval so I'll not comment on that one. Fatty Bolger would beat Lotho, he's cool. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] You're scaring me Helkahothion, hehe. That's just NASTY! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

I would say farmer maggot, as he has those dogs and all of those gardening supplies...Also, the gaffer, was shaking like a little schoolgirl when the nazgul came up to him in the movie...how about this?

BUTTERBUR vs. BILL FERNY

I would say Bill Ferny he would kill Butterbur. Butterbur would forget that they were fighting and Bill would then stab him in the back.

The point(s) are moot, because NONE of these would fight each other!! How about ya'll do some matching up between bad guys and good guys! Like Gimli verses Lurtz, or Ungoliant verses Gandalf the White, or something that makes sense! And Merry Christmas.

turin vs hurin

ahh too hard to think about now

Saruman vs. Balrog...thats an interesting one. It depends quite obviously more on what time period. Saruman at his height, or Saruman at the depth of his corruption? And it also depends obviously on which Balrog. Durin's Bane I can see being beaten by a decaying Saruman. Gothmog and Saruman at the height of both their powers would be an interesting battle (maybe Saruman could talk his way out of it? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ).

And do you see that??!!

<---------"Shade of Carn Dûm"! DO you know how long I've waited for that! *pats self on the back* Good Job me!

Hey, Knight of Gondor, sometimes it's fun to think of good-hearted battles between characters on the same side, don't spoil our fun!

And also, Warbringer: um, just 'cause the Nazgul freaked out a poor hobbit does NOT mean he's a coward. I mean, those guys are scared of no one save Glorfindel and maybe a few others, so don't diss the poor Gaffer. Besides, these are supposed to be fair fights (no dogs etc...). I still say Gaffer is the hobbit!

Actually, I thought that it was Farmer Maggot who was scared of the Ringwraith in the movie. I mean, those were his dogs, weren't they?

Go Gaffer!!! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Diamond- This is about Merry vs. Sam.

In my opion Sam would kick butt! It doesn't take much to get Sam going.

And isn't one of the many meaning of Lord of the Rings that the little guy can often beat the big bully. Size DOSN'T matter.
Shelob was WAY bigger then Sam and that didn't stop him.

Of course if it was for Frodo Sam would most definatly win. Sam would have faced all the forces of Sauron for Frodo and would have taken down a good number of them before he fell himself.

Farmer Maggot would get the gaffer, if he didn't get talked to death first.

How 'bout Lobeliea and Wormtoungue? [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]


EDIT: Are we talking all full capabilities? 'Cause in that case magic counts. But if not . . . also, what about just using "bear" fists and teeth? Use what Iluvitar gave ya'!! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] (My alter ego is talking, pay no mind.)

If the fights are just teeth and fists (and nails, and feet), I think there would be a dramatic switch in fight winning/loosing. And Pippin would so totally cream Merry!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ December 07, 2002: Message edited by: Mintyztwin ]

Well, I know that this is not totally pure, but I am dying to know what the general opinion is on a fight between Darth Vader and the Witch King. My cash is on the WK, because a lightsaber will just slice robe, and a cuple slashes from a dark blade will have darth gibbering on the ground... [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Sarumon and a balrog...that's tough i would have to go with sarumon... or maybe the balrog... how about we flip a coin? Anyway, how about this...

Maiar and elves,men,and dwarves vs. the Valar

Valar, no question on dat one.

Well all if you start watching to what they really are Darth Vadre would not stand a change because he is just a mortal with no real powers.(oooh he can move stuff around big deal datr vader shmart vader) So the witch king will beat his butt all the way back to his pathetic little spaceship.

(Sorry I simply higly dislike starwars. It's stupid. People fighting with TL-lights give me a break.)

Anyway keep up the good work people!
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No way man Vader would kick his undead butt! The W.K. would attack but D.V. wouldbe able to just slice any blade he has then WHACK the old fork in the eye!

Lobelia would whoop Wormy's little wriggling butt into the ground. Think about their personalities. Grima is a little sniveling weasel and Lobelia is a tough ol' mama! She would stab him with the silverware she wanted to take from Bilbo before he could hiss, "Saruman! Help!"...and Saruman would not help, of course...haha...Wormtongue: what a little coward...

I think Eowyn versus Emeldir would be interesting...

How about Arien versus Melian? That would be interesting: two Maia going at it...

What about Arwen vs. Eowyn (Did anyone say that one yet?)

Wormtoungue would distract Lobeilia by trowing silver spoons in a corner. When Lobelia runs towards them wormtoungue will back stab her like the little rat that he is.

And Darth Vader is a machine so the W.K. will just take out his battery's and he would die.
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Yes, 1st page...

Re: Arwen -vs- Eowyn

THere is an interesting post from one of the old TOlkien newsgroups (remember those?) on this one, and I thought it particularly apropos, so I post it here in its entirety:

"Let's start with Luthien... along with being the 'fairest child of Elves or Men', the daughter of a Maia, and the most accomplished singer of all time, she also loved her man so much as to be willing to knock out her guards and leave home and face down Sauron and beat Sauron's sorry a** just to stand by him. She was willing to go with him straight to Thangorodrim itself, put one over on Morgoth(!), and even after all that still cared for him so much that she was willing to go to Mandos and talk the Valar into bringing Beren back to life. Let's face it: Luthien Tinuviel was one hot thoroughly accomplished scared-o-nothin' clever-as-heck she-elf.

"Now, let's look at Arwen... According to Return of the King appendices A and B, Aragorn first met Arwen and fell in love with her in T.A. 2951 - but Arwen wouldn't even give him the time of day until twenty-nine years later. Her father, Elrond, made it clear that she wasn't gonna marry Aragorn unless he became the Ruler of Gondor and Arnor; and when Aragorn joined the Fellowship and went forth on the hopeless mission to overthrow Sauron, did Arwen help him, as Luthien helped Beren? No! She stayed at home and read magazines until the War was already down to the last gasp, and even then she refused to show up herself but just sent all of Aragorn's friends south to offer all the moral support instead! Oh, sure, once all the dirty work was already done, then she shows up - probably carried all the way there in a sedan chair by some sweating oafish admirers - to finally say, 'Ohhhh, Aragorn! Now that you've become the king of several hundred thousand square miles of prime real-estate and defeated all of our dire enemies, suddenly you look much more handsome', and in the blink of an eye she's all ready to say the heck with what Dad thinks and marry him. ...Put it all together and what have you got? A cheap, greedy, standoffish gold-digging trollop.

"Luthien or Arwen? Come on! Stop kidding around. The 'fairest child of Elves or Men' wins hands down. If you're going to give us a contest, at least make it a relatively fair one."

To which I can only add...

Touche!

Lobelia and Wormtoungue...

One must take into account the fact that Wormtongue is still a man. Personal preferances aside, I think that Wormtongue would be doing quite well against lil Lobelia.

And can we please talk Tolkien, Star Wars has absolutely nothing to do with Tolkien.

Farmer Maggot [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Gaffer [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Sorry Sam!
How about the Slinker vs. the Stinker supposing Gollum was cloned and each clone was 100% one way?
Aragorn vs. Gandalf (NO MAGIC PLEASE)
Well this was fun [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I'll go be cool [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] OOO It's legolas [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Which would win in a duel to the death?
[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] versus [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
[img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] versus [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]
[img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] versus [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] versus [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Sorry, all the smilies in the last post got me thinking...

And Gandalf all the way: even though he is in the body of a man, he is a Maia, remember.

EDIT: Darn 8 smilie limit...I got all 10 matched up too...well, the last is the "eek" one with the "evil" one...

[ December 14, 2002: Message edited by: VanimaEdhel ]

you've missed out [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] and [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] also.

but anyway, [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] thrashes [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
[img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] beats [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] to within an inch of it's life and how on earth could [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] lose to anything as pathetic as [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]?

Hence the previous, EDIT, dragoneyes...

I think "y'all" is much worse language than #$^%, #&$^, or even donkey-$^#&%^ &*&%-eater, for that matter.

Feanor vs Fingolfin is an interesting one. Feanor's fully crazy, I'll admit that, and probably has the best sword, armour etc. that were ever made ever, but Fingolfin was more into studying the arts of combat. Feanor was always in his workshop. I'm in Fingolfin's corner.

Arwen vs Luthien is one slap-fight I'd really like to see!!

"What's he singin' 'bout you for? You too old for my man, %&^&$"
"You &*%&$, who you think you are copying me, anyway?"
JERRY! JERRY!

Luthien would beat Arwen hands down. I agree with Thenamir, and thank him for that wonderful bit from wherever he got it. Take THAT, PJ!

But don't forget Arwen is some kind of reincarnation of luthien, I think it would be a hell of a fight! (and i would pay mithril by tuns to see it!)

interesting thread...

How about Shelob vs. Balrog? or Ungoliant vs. Balrog, to make it more evenly matched. That would be interesting. The Balrog would probably win, since Ungoliant eats light, and he's made from shadow....but then Ungoliant did eat herself.,...at least I think that was what it said.....and she wasn't exactly light.

Uh, Firnantoonion, actually Arwen isn't a reborn Luthien, Luthien is dead, gone, the only elf ever to leave the circles of the world.

Obviously the Balrog would win because Shelob is big and fat and lazy. However Ungoliant would probably put up a better fight, though both of them would probably run away to their dark lords before the balrog could touch them.

im new here but what about Ungoliant vs. a Balrog? [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

I didn't literally meant reincarnation, but as luthien was the morningstar of her people, Arwen is the evenstar, and the image of luthien. furthermore, they both shared the same doom: they both fell in love with a mortal and died. Reincarnation was just the best word I came on last night, and i admit it wasn't a very good choice to use here.

but to stay on the topic:
how about a Balrog vs the Nazgul?

[ September 06, 2003: Message edited by: Firnantoonion ]

I think that the Balrog would win. He'd set the Nazgul's robes on fire & send them high-tailing back to Minas Morgul.

What about Lobelia vs. Merry? (Remember FotR when Merry was watching over Bag-end while Frodo napped & Lobelia came over?)

[ September 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lily Bombadil ]

How about Erendis versus Ioreth? or
Aldarion versus Isildur, and I'd love to see a fight between Glorfindel and Fingolfin!
Also Túrin versus Aragorn. I want Túrin to win since I love him to bits, and he could beat that stinky old Many Names to within an inch of his life, and more!
Anyhoo, continuing!
Balrog (Gothmog) vs Sauron.
The Mouth of Sauron vs The Eye of Sauron [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Both Blue Wizards vs Gandalf (grey) and Radagast.
That's all!
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Elróthiel, the Insane Elven Goddess of Hilariosity and Laughter Who Sees the Corruption of the World Today!

Goodness Gracious Me! How could anyone ever think our Prince of Mirkwood could EVER beat Glorfindel!!!! Glorfindel would just own him! Same goes for Éomer and Faramir, Éomer would kick the crap out of Faramir!

Actually, I think Eomer and Faramir were very similarly matched.

Any thoughts on this fight?

ERU vs TOM BOMBADIL

Hmm?