Oh just my luck, I hope the wolves really don't think the intelligent villagers will fall for such an obvious trick?

Well, after virtually 4 days of analyzing the only thing that I find suspicious is our monopoly of radiant moderators. So, that means I'm scrapping everything and starting anew.

Ah, so it turned out Eonwe did have a special role! He was the village Steve. But then he was dropping Steve hints all over the place, so we should've guessed.

So, Agan died. I'm sad, because I trusted her. Plus she's all smart and pretty and stuff.

But on the bright side I wasn't killed. So guess what? You all get one more day of Phantom!

And I do mean one more day. I don't see any way I survive another Night phase. For surely the WWs have realized by now that I am, indeed, the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Nice Princess Bride reference...apparently all I have to do is brag about how deadly you are to wolves and they'll kill you.

Was there a trick involved?

Do explain. I love tricks.

Well, no... I love Trix. But I do at least like tricks.

Their trick to get me lynched, I want to see how they plan to work this one out.

Question- what if you were to brag how dangerous their fellow Wolves were to their own survival? Would they turn on each other.

And by "turn on" each other, I mean "betray". I don't mean.... never mind.

Well, that was predictable.

Well if you're a wolf and would like to betray some of you buddies my ears are listening...or well my eyes are - never mind.

As long as you're not a rabbit, Phantom. Then you'd just be silly.

Man, my apologies to Agan. Totally thought she was of the lupine persuasion. All those nerve endings in my gut (did you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head?) must be having indigestion. This blows everything I had out of the water. Not that I had much, but, you know, stupid wolves not being who I think they are. Why was it predictable, Nerwen?

How selfish of you. Assuming that the entire kill was based on lynching you! How arrogant. How self centered!

The plan was obviously to set up me to be lynched.

Feeling good about that one are you Nerwen? Why didn't you go for morm, he's been coming after you.

Hey, now, some of us are just now finding out the kill, and are still in shock. Not all of us knew several hours ago like you did, so just keep your snide comments to yourself.

Okay, okay- I'll come clean.

Shasta's the mastermind. He made us do it! We didn't want to hurt anyone, but he called us "Terrible excuses for Were-creatures" and told us he'd "eat our faces off" if we didn't kill someone.

If I vote for you as a rep, does that mean I have your sworn word that you will lynch Shasta?

Translation: I was so wrong there's no way I could possibly be a Wolf.

Ha ha, Ilya, I know better. You're a Wolf aren't you?!

Okay, good to know, because we're looking for Werewolves, not Wolves. Wolves are fine with us.

No need to take that tone, tp. I could say it's arrogant of you and Boro to assume the kill was about getting one of you lynched. I don't get how that would work. Both of y'all trusted Agan. I don't know what case a wolf could reasonably stir up. It'd be much easier to drive me to the gallows, since I've continually said I suspected Agan. That said, Nerwen, you're being odd and it's weirding me out.

I thought that was a given. I did call him the Werewolf mastermind, didn't I?

Ilya: I was just messing around.

PS Will probably continue to do so.

Even T-Wolves? Because if there are any Nuggets around here, I...I dunno what I'll do, actually, I'm a Hornets fan.

Edit: Man, nobody around here likes admissions, do they? TP, keep letting me know, because until you do I will totally believe you are serious.

After defending her I said I probably just signed her death warrant...definitely makes it look like I knew too much.

Now, am I correct in assuming you said all of that about Agan because you were in fact setting her up to be killed during the Night?

Because that's sort of why I declared her innocent and said what I did about her. I thought for sure she was not a WW, and not the Seer, but an Ordo that was likely to be a lynching distraction to other Ordos, and therefore thought it best that she die during the Night. So I did what I could to make her look like an attractive target.

Not that she needs help looking attractive.

Nice job, tp, I should have known you would have caught on. I thought you were going to start a Nog/Boro war and get me lynched. Well, maybe I'm speaking too soon.

Okay, everyone, back to work.

The case that Boro regarded Aganzir as a formidable opponent of the wolves. (Or, alternatively, that all this talk of framing is a complicated double-bluff on a Borowolf's part.)

Why would that "drive you to the gallows"? It's not as if you actively tried to get her lynched and failed. More to the point is the fact that she did make a case against you, though she found it inconclusive.

Why? Don't get it.

EDIT: x'd since Ilya at #816.

Woah. You guys are good.

Edit: Nerwen, just coming in here and saying "That was predictable" and then leaving without saying why. I couldn't guess why it had been Agan, so it just seemed weird, like when Di came in, said one thing, and then left.

What, there's still a team there? I thought they disbanded when KG left.

I do have various clauses in my contract, I was not allowed to enter this village unless I do out of the part insane, never before seen, tactics to please the modgoddesses...hence why I said they are the only entities I find to be suspicious.

But, yes I'll get back to work...

If only, if only.

Wherein you do a triplebluff where we all expect that you know that we know that you knew Agan was a formidible anti-wolf force, so you know you that someone would call you on it so you know to say that that's obviously what the wolves know, even though you know that's what we know.

Honestly, this is what y'all sound like sometimes. :)

Simple. Agan's death both eliminates a strong player and potentially frames multiple people.

Boro and phantom... yes, I guessed what you were up to, though I was a bit slow on the uptake.

Now I have to decide whether you two are on the level, or whether it's all an elaborate plot. *gives them long, hard stare*

EDIT: x'd since phantom.

Indeed. That's why I said this yesterday-
I wanted to set up the idea that I'd come after you if she died, in hopes that it would make the WWs even more likely to kill her.

And then you said this-
To which I replied-
Which I was hoping would let you know that I knew exactly what you were up to and that I was playing along in my own way.

So yeah... I pretty much trust you at this point.

1) The McCaber kill doesn't match you.

2) You tried to do the I'm-the-Seer ploy, just like me.

3) You did the set-up-kill ploy, just like me.

4) The Seer has almost certainly checked us by now.

Well, that's where I stand currently. And if we can manage to not lynch the Seer, and force the WWs to use their kills on the two of us the next two nights, then the village will be in a beautiful position when we leave it.

Just like old times, laddie. Cheers.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Werewolf, m'dear.

EDIT: x'd with phantom; capitalisation.

Oh, and fyi, I met Sally in person a few hours ago.

She ordered her hamburger cooked extremely rare, and when I told a joke she howled with laughter.

Beware!

Sounds like she put you in a bit of a furry situation, phantom.

Why yes, I have a paper to write. Why do you ask?

I'd love to read through Ganzy's posts and such, but it will have to wait until tomorrow afternoon. Now I must sleep.

Okay, I'm not quite caught up, I just got home not too long ago. I'll tell you though this chattiness between Boro/phantom and others is bothering me a bit. It makes me wonder what they are up too. It just seems odd and it's annoying because it really clutters up the thread and the more important issues. I am going to bed and hopefully will have some time tomorrow to catch up...it depends on how busy work is.

My first attempt at a proper multi-quote, so if I don't reply to all the bits my apologies. I'll put them in another post as I notice my oversight. heh.


Hee hee! Village Steve, poor guy. You sons of a mothers killed the poor kid before I could make the obligatory Blue's Clues jokes. How dare you!

Could I request modfire?

You are not the real Dread Pirate Roberts. The real Roberts has been retired for fifteen years, and living like a king in Patagonia.

This is enough proof for me. Phantom is TOTALLY a wolf. :Merisu:

Really? Well, if it was predictable, I say you didn't predict it at all! This was all a setup! Conspiracy! Conspiracy! [/crazy flailing]

Anyway, yes Agan's death wasn't that much of a surprise, but I didn't particularly think she was seer so I almost expected the wolves to gamble after that quarry rather than our little finished -erm, Finnish- friend.

It's okay, love. You're new (at least to playing with this fine group) so don't feel bad about being off about things. And just because you were wrong about Agan doesn't mean you weren't right in other areas. You're doing great, Ilya. No worries.

Obviously....*more eyerolling*

Heh. Actually that's along the lines of what I was thinking. Minus the "snide comments" line, but hey. Not all of us can be that rude....erm, special.

Chillax, Ilya. Like the rest of the players, you just have to get used to our ever-irritating Phantom over here. He's kidding a good 3/4 of the time, and even when he's not he's completely clueless anyway. :p

Heh. Yeah, I have the same feeling occasionally. By the way, that 'theory' of yours was hilarious.

Thanks for explaining your kill to us, Nerwen. I figured it was just because so many people (okay, me and the Hardy Boys over there *points to Boro and Phantom, who are lining up little toy soldiers around a Barbie Dream House*) thought she was innocent.

Oi! You best beware, 'little boy', or that post will come back to bite you!:rolleyes:

Tehe. I love humor. *giggles, then posts this and goes to catch up again*


EDIT: x'd since the Ilya post I quoted at the end of mine.

And of course now the banter slows down. Blast.

Quick list, perhaps? (Not going to include everyone, just the people I have specific feelings on. Aka whoever pops into my head)


Innocent, maybe a rep vote toDay:
Boro
Shasta


Innocent, but (at least at the moment) not going to get my rep vote toDay:
Phantom (just to spite. heh.)
Lommie


Leaning guilty, would vote for them if I was a rep toDay:
Ilya
Nerwen (shaky on this one)


And you called me a submarine? (Aka I'm surprised they're still alive/playing)
Gwath
Rune
Ka
Kath
Gil


Yes, I know, I left some people out. But again, I just wrote down who came to my head and stuck them in the appropriate category. Don't worry, I didn't forget about the rest of you. (And in regards to my last category, is Gil even playing anymore?)


Off to bed. Good night, dearies!

So now I am a submarine!? In that case. . .can I be yellow?

Anyways I don't really have time for this, classes start in 20 min. and I am not even proper dressed yet. I don't know why, but apparently I am incabable of picking up on seer hints and such, so Aganzir's death came as suprise to me. A welcomed suprise that is, with her gone I have more time for analyzing. . . .really, she took up alot of my time. Either I was annoyed with her style or I just sat around trying to figure out if I really suspected her or it was just because I found her annoying.

So that's why you did it, wolfisaloser2005? *slaps forehead* Trust me to get over-complicated.

Not necessarily, sweetie. I'm just (quite frankly) surprised you're still alive. Gwath too. The others are the real submarines, I just grouped you all together. Sorry; should have explained that.

And yes, you can be yellow. ;)

That does it. Since, as far as I know, this game isn't innocent vs. innocent, there's no way you can be innocent. I don't believe this.

Warning: Long Post Ahead
 

I've decided to attempt a monstrous task and analyse Aganzir's death:

Day 1

Aganzir's comments on players:

What players commented about Aganzir:

Day 2

Aganzir's comments about players:

Players' comments on Aganzir:

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Ouch. All those quotes can hurt your head after awhile.

Thoughts:

It seems yesterDay Aganzir was suspected by half and considered innocent by another half, and several others placed her somewhere in between. She's obviously not a no-trace kill since she left plenty of posts with substance.

I think suspected seerism is likely. Perhaps the wolves thought she was a seer who dreamt of Lommy on Night 2. After all, on Day 1 she at first suspects Lommy then says she'd like to keep an eye on her. And the next Day she suddenly finds her innocent. Or it's possible she was killed to set someone up. Though I think the former is more likely. Which means I think Lommy's probably innocent.