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Meneltarmacil 07-25-2003 08:30 AM

Quote:

Theoden
Denethor
Sam
Aragorn
Turgon
Sam seens like the odd one out for a number of reasons (Only Hobbit, only one who didn't die but went to Valinor)... but that has got to be too easy. Maybe Denethor because he was the only one who didn't have a sword?

Lalaith 07-25-2003 10:07 AM

No, sorry.

Gil-Galad 07-25-2003 10:51 AM

may i ask which Denethor? the Ossiraind Denethor or the steward Denethor?

Lalaith 07-25-2003 11:40 AM

The steward, the one who appears in LotR.

Lyta_Underhill 07-25-2003 12:19 PM

Wild guess, top of my head: all of them but Sam died in a realm containing Minas Tirith! So Sam is odd...

Cheers,
Lyta
(forgive me if my wild guess is too wild!)

Lalaith 07-25-2003 12:29 PM

That's a classy guess Lyta but not the right answer...

Luthien_ Tinuviel 07-25-2003 01:24 PM

Well, they were all "rulers" of something, but I'll guess Sam, because he wasn't a king or steward acting as king, just a a mayor.

Lalaith 07-25-2003 01:44 PM

Nope.

Lyta_Underhill 07-25-2003 02:23 PM

They all lived in the Third Age, except for Turgon, who lived in the First Age. Oh, and thanks for the compliment on the first guess, Lalaith! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ July 25, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]

Lalaith 07-25-2003 04:20 PM

I think this is maybe bit hard.
Clue - Lyta was closest when she was thinking about their deaths...

Lyta_Underhill 07-25-2003 07:10 PM

Another guess: all but Turgon were mortals and had lived to old age for their kinds when they died.

Lalaith 07-26-2003 03:34 AM

No....sorry. I'm away for a week now but feel free to guess and I'll tell you when I get back!

Lasgalen 07-27-2003 02:30 AM

Denethor is the only one who takes his own life.

Gil-Galad 07-27-2003 11:39 AM

Turgon dies in a tower protecting himself

Dancing_Hobbit 07-31-2003 10:00 AM

I believe Theoden was the only one to die without any living offspring?

Lyta_Underhill 07-31-2003 11:58 AM

Quote:

Theoden
Denethor
Sam
Aragorn
Turgon
OK, how about a silly guess? Sam is the only one without an "O" in his name! (Also the only one without an "N" in his name!) [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ July 31, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]

Lalaith 08-02-2003 01:53 PM

No, none of these are right, but I'd say that Dancing Hobbit is thinking along the right lines.

Lasgalen 08-03-2003 12:25 AM

Theoden is the only one to outlive his child(ren).

Lalaith 08-04-2003 05:56 PM

Very much along the right lines, Lasgalen.

Turambar 08-07-2003 08:00 PM

Only Sam had children of both sexes?

Dancing_Hobbit 08-13-2003 12:08 PM

Denethor was the only one to try to kill himself and one of his children.

Manardariel 08-15-2003 04:48 AM

Hmmmm...

Turgon is the only one who´s children/heirs didn´t inherit anything from him?

Theoden- Kingship to Eomer
Sam- Red Book of Westmarch to Elanor
Denethor- Stewardship to Faramir
Aragorn- Kingship to Eladarion

does that make sense???

Lalaith 08-18-2003 03:15 AM

Hi everyone, sorry I was away and couldn't remember my password to log on!
No, it's not to do with children.
Lasgalen is still the closest though. 'outlive' is the key word....

Turambar 08-18-2003 08:38 AM

Was Aragorn the only one outlived by his wife ? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Lalaith 08-18-2003 08:43 AM

Hurrah for Turambar! It's the right answer...

Turambar 08-19-2003 06:17 AM

Thingol
Fingolfin
Finrod
Turgon
Beren

Mariska Greenleaf 08-19-2003 06:59 AM

My first thought is Beren,
because he is the only man, the rest of them are elves, but it will not be that easy I suppose [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Eruanna 08-19-2003 08:16 AM

Finrod? He was the only one who did not marry and have children.

Turambar 08-19-2003 09:01 AM

No and no.

All but the OMO did something, or perhaps you could say something happened to them.

Cathelm 08-19-2003 10:40 AM

I have three guesses, if that's alright...

It's either Thingol, since he's the only one not going by his original name (Elwe),

Or Beren, because 1. He's a man, and 2. He died of causes not related to the War of the Silmarils, even if it was the second time.

Or Fingolfin, since as far as I remember he's the only one who had the honor of being slain by Morgoth himself.

Not sure if I'm allowed to do that, but hope one of them is right.

Turambar 08-19-2003 12:48 PM

Nope. Re the Fingolfin guess, usually an OMO question is based on something that applies to everyone except the OMO.

Just trying to clarify.

HINT: Lorien.

[ August 19, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Evisse the Blue 08-21-2003 02:43 PM

Lorien? I suppose it's not the ME Lorien but the one from Valinor, so I'll guess: Beren is the OMO because all the rest saw Valinor.

Turambar 08-21-2003 05:51 PM

Nope, though you have the correct Lorien.

You might say that all but the OMO received something, in a certain way.

THis probably isn't the best OMO question; I always have trouble asking these.

Gwaihir the Windlord 08-22-2003 02:50 AM

Thingol
Fingolfin
Finrod
Turgon
Beren

Fingolfin, perhaps. He is the only one not wedded or in close association with a person themselves associated with nightingales, which are ultimately from Lorien.

Turambar 08-22-2003 06:47 AM

That's the correct OMO, but the wrong reason -- what do the rules say about that?

Given the HINT, the answer is more obvious than than yours, Gwaihir.

HINT #2 -- one of Finrod's and Turgon's association with the answer occurred together, so to speak.

The Saucepan Man 08-22-2003 07:26 AM

Just to clarify, on "Odd One Out" type games, the question is not correctrly answered until the correct reason for the correct OMO is given. In fact Turambar, you do not have to tell someone that they have the correct OMO if they give the wrong reason.

Turambar 08-22-2003 07:36 AM

I figured that but I'm eager to have this one solved. Like most people, I'd rather solve puzzles than pose them.

C'mon !!

Lasgalen 08-24-2003 02:38 PM

Fingolfin, because he is the only one whose death is not associated with getting and or keeping a Silmaril?

Turambar 08-24-2003 05:02 PM

http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgno.gif

*cough-whatisLorientheGodof-cough*

Gwaihir the Windlord 08-25-2003 02:25 AM

Ummm..... Fingolfin the only one who didn't have a garden, then?


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