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Legate of Amon Lanc 01-09-2008 12:35 PM

Beleg met them when he was looking for Túrin?

...Easier one? You are evil ;)

Thinlómien 01-10-2008 01:30 AM

1) I'm not evil
2) that's true
3) it is not the answer I was looking for

:D

Surely Beleg met other people as well, when looking for Túrin - like the rest of Túrin's men for example.

Keep guessing.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-10-2008 04:43 PM

1) No, you ARE evil
2) I knew it
3) I knew it!

;)

Alrighty, what about the fact that they both suffered a mortal wound when there was only one mighty hero around who survived? (I know, somewhat complicated but also true.)

Thinlómien 01-11-2008 12:12 PM

No, even though it's related to that fact.

Gwathagor 01-11-2008 12:49 PM

Four things: D, G, N, O, and R. :p

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-11-2008 01:06 PM

Well I don't know. Túrin was always captured (or "captured") shortly after they died. Or he changed his name short time after that. Or is it more focused on them personally and not having too much in common with Túrin?

Thinlómien 01-11-2008 01:19 PM

I might be slow today, but I'm afraid I don't get what you're saying, Gwath. :)

Legate - no and no, like you suspected, it has less to do with Túrin (even though part of the answer is related to him).

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-11-2008 01:32 PM

Something like that they were the most brave in the battle when a place Túrin was hiding in was destroyed? :confused:

Thinlómien 01-11-2008 01:37 PM

No...

Ok, I'll take my words about being evil back, for the combination Legate + confused smiley + Quiz Room made me laugh. :p ;)

Anyway, Legate's second guess remains the one that is closest to what I'm thinking about.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-11-2008 01:47 PM

Okay. Let me see. Andróg saves Beleg before he dies, but Gwindor does not save anyone before he dies, quite the opposite, Túrin carries him out of the battle. Technically, Andróg saves Beleg and Gwindor saves Túrin, but that's kinda strange and does not seem much as "in common" - well, at maximum I could say "they saved a hero". I really can't think of anything else.

Thinlómien 01-11-2008 02:42 PM

Now, first off, I managed to misread the part of the story from CoH that is about the answer (or part of it) so the answer I had in mind is not actually true. :o :D

This might make everything confusing, but I can and I will alter the answer, but then it needs stretching a little. If I do it, it actually means that Legate is very very close to the answer with his latest guess.

Yes, Andróg saves Beleg and we could say that Gwindor saves Túrin. That is the part of the answer you got absolutely right. However, that itself doesn't form a connection between the two. And "they both saved a hero", as true as it is, is not original enough. (After all, there are loads of people saving heroes in Tolkien's works.) :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-11-2008 03:08 PM

Is it, like, some details? Like, that they both saved a hero who was in bonds, cut off his bonds or something like that? Or something else, like, some events that occured at that time? I don't know what you are looking for (once again, :confused: )

Thinlómien 01-11-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 543093)
Is it, like, some details? Like, that they both saved a hero who was in bonds, cut off his bonds or something like that? Or something else, like, some events that occured at that time?

I'd rather make this easy than difficult and complicated, so I can tell you it has something to do with their relationship with the one they saved.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-11-2008 03:25 PM

Well, they saved someone whom they have seen as an "enemy". But in Andróg's case, Beleg was his "enemy" earlier, while Gwindor was Túrin's "enemy" later.

EDIT: or maybe "jealous" is the word?

Thinlómien 01-11-2008 03:44 PM

Well done!
 
I accept that answer. I was thinking that they saved someone who was their rival for someone's love/ attentions/ regard, but that is very close to your answer as there certainly is the jealousy-aspect.

The thing that I originally had in mind was that their rival tried to save them right before they died, but then, a while ago, I discovered this was not true in Andróg's case (unless you're stretching a lot). So I changed it to that what you said, although it makes the timeline-thing a little illogical. I'm not content with myself :rolleyes::D.

Anyway, like I said, that is the correct answer, so Legate, please take the thread. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-11-2008 04:28 PM

That happens ;)

Okay, now what the heck am I supposed to post as a question?

What about this, in hope not to be too vague:

What do Boromir and the Nazgul have in common?

And to avoid confusion, I could add that right now I cannot think of anyone else who would have that thing common with them (and I really hope I am not mistaken so that I'm not confusing you, but I'd say you can take for granted now that it's right. If it's wrong it will show sooner or later :D ).

Gwathagor 01-11-2008 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien (Post 543073)
I might be slow today, but I'm afraid I don't get what you're saying, Gwath. :)

I reread my post, and it really didn't make any sense. At all.

Regarding Boromir and the Nazgul: both tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to take the Ring from Frodo.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-12-2008 06:38 AM

That's a good one, but not the thing I had in mind. One could say, technically, that they did not want to take the Ring, but Frodo as a whole (Ring included). Anyway, I want to say that I wanted another answer. Keep trying. :)

Thinlómien 01-12-2008 02:45 PM

They lost their horses while crossing a river?

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-12-2008 02:46 PM

Very good! That's what I was looking for. Lommy, you may continue the thread.

Thinlómien 01-12-2008 03:41 PM

What do Faramir and Sam have in common?

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-13-2008 07:18 AM

Hm, the first thing I thought about is that they are the "second in rank" after a hero, you know what I mean? Boromir -> Faramir, Frodo -> Sam. Though it hardly is what you have in mind. Maybe the fact that they both did not like that Gollum accompanied Frodo?

Thinlómien 01-13-2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 543181)
Hm, the first thing I thought about is that they are the "second in rank" after a hero, you know what I mean? Boromir -> Faramir, Frodo -> Sam. Though it hardly is what you have in mind. Maybe the fact that they both did not like that Gollum accompanied Frodo?

Yes, I do understand what you mean by that first one, but as you guessed, it's not the answer (and after all, they're not the only ones sharing this "trait"). As for the second guess, yes, that's very true, but the answer I'm looking for is less obvious (and if possible, even more simple). :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-13-2008 01:41 PM

Simple? Surely not that they resisted the Ring, for they were not the only ones (Galadriel). Well, they had in common the high esteem of Elves. That was someting they really had in common, meaning, something they could agree on. But just technically speaking, that was a thing other people had as well...

Thinlómien 01-13-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 543215)
Simple? Surely not that they resisted the Ring, for they were not the only ones (Galadriel). Well, they had in common the high esteem of Elves. That was someting they really had in common, meaning, something they could agree on. But just technically speaking, that was a thing other people had as well...

Good guesses - but like you said, those fact are not restricted to those two. :)

Keep guessing.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-13-2008 01:49 PM

Oh yes, I probably found it - right after I hit the submit button of my last answer, I felt as if I were struck by a lightning, and I only had to check what I thought of - they married the same year, is that what you had in mind?

Thinlómien 01-13-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 543217)
Oh yes, I probably found it - right after I hit the submit button of my last answer, I felt as if I were struck by a lightning, and I only had to check what I thought of - they married the same year, is that what you had in mind?

Yes, that is very true, but one could say that also Rosie and Éowyn and many anonymous yet mentioned hobbits married in 1420 S.R. as well. But hey, that was actually a very good one that didn't even cross my mind. :) And you're in a way very close to the correct answer with that guess.

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-13-2008 02:17 PM

Typical syndrom of the Quiz Room - finding more answers than you thought of when you posted the question :)

Close, you say? Hmm...


Aha, born the same year :) Not as romantic as I thought, but anyways :)

Thinlómien 01-13-2008 02:30 PM

Yes, but anyways the correct answer. Take the thread, please. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-13-2008 03:15 PM

Okay, so what about something trickier for a change. Brodda and Finduilas of Dol Amroth. :cool:

Nerwen 02-15-2008 06:07 AM

They each married a foreigner?

Legate of Amon Lanc 02-15-2008 06:57 AM

Surely they were not the only ones. But you are on the right track.

Nerwen 02-16-2008 06:51 AM

Er... they were each distantly related to someone named Morwen?

(Okay, that's a bit weak.)

Legate of Amon Lanc 02-16-2008 06:57 AM

That is indeed. Nope. You were aiming the right direction before.

Nerwen 02-16-2008 07:05 AM

Oh, I get it.

Their spouses both ended up setting fire to everything?

Legate of Amon Lanc 02-16-2008 07:27 AM

That's it :D

You may take the thread.

Nerwen 02-16-2008 07:32 AM

First, a question about the rules: is it always two people?

Legate of Amon Lanc 02-16-2008 07:46 AM

Any number you choose, obviously (well, maybe only asking about one person would be somewhat odd ;) ); the very first post of the thread is about five people. I must say I thought till this time that it has to be always about just two people, hm, in fact, I did not even think about it. Might have been easier to think of some questions...

Nerwen 02-16-2008 07:56 AM

Okay. Second question. Do they have to be the only people with this thing in common?

Legate of Amon Lanc 02-16-2008 08:07 AM

Well, they should. On the other hand... if you ask a thing, like, that they had blue eyes, maybe it will do... I think you should specify it, at least, that it may be a thing they may have in common with even someone else, so that someone does not dismiss it... asking what do Bilbo and Sauron have in common, people would generally assume you mean something else than that they wore the One Ring, unless you included also Gollum, Isildur, Frodo and Sam etc.


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