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Gil-Galad 04-13-2005 05:27 PM

not at all, close though...think behind helms deep

Lindolirian 04-13-2005 05:33 PM

I thought the stream in Aglarond would be the same as the one that flows out of Helm's Deep, but if that's not it, I believe you have me.

Gil-Galad 04-13-2005 07:35 PM

oh wow thats a first...its actually really easy...

The Elf-warrior 04-13-2005 08:00 PM

Is it the Deeping-stream?

Firefoot 04-13-2005 08:06 PM

But the Deeping-stream is the same river Lindo's been talking about.

(But, I don't think there are any other rivers that fit the criteria.)

Gil-Galad 04-14-2005 07:34 AM

as i said: behind Helms Deep

Firefoot 05-02-2005 04:28 PM

Another hint, maybe?

Gil-Galad 05-02-2005 04:35 PM

its a river in West Rohan

Firefoot 05-02-2005 07:10 PM

The only other river in Rohan I can find is the Adorn - but it's not really behind Helm's Deep or east of the Isen... it's more south of it.

piosenniel 05-04-2005 11:53 AM

Are you speaking of The Deeping Stream?

Iaurhirwen 05-05-2005 01:07 PM

Is it the Swanfleet?

Gil-Galad 05-05-2005 08:22 PM

it is the swanfleet! good job!

Firefoot 05-05-2005 08:34 PM

Gil-Galad, I'm a little confused. What did you mean when you gave a hint that it was behind Helm's Deep? And it flows into the Greyflood; how is it closer to the Isen than the others? :(

piosenniel 05-06-2005 01:59 AM

Sorry - but you are wrong in thinking the Swanfleet is a river in West Rohan, or in Rohan, at all. Neither is it east of the Isen - it's west of the Isen's source and north of the Isen itself as it flows to the sea.

Swanfleet is the name given to the River Glanduin where it flows through the fens just northeast of Tharbad. The Sirannon (Gate Stream) that flowed from Khazad-dum was a tributary of the Glanduin.

Eregion bordered these two rivers on the north, and Dunland bordered them on the south.

They do not flow in Rohan.

The Deeping Stream, on the other hand, ran around the base of Helm's Deep on the south and east sides:

Quote:

The stream that rose in the gorge of the White Mountains known as Helm's Deep. It flowed through a culvert in the wall that guarded that refuge of the Rohirrim, and then around the feet of the rock where the Hornburg stood, before beginning its journey into the wide lands of Rohan.
-- Encyclopedia of Arda

You can also investigate the Rohan rivers by looking at The Atlas of Middle-earth; pg: 88 - 89. And the Deeping Stream in the same Atlas, pg. 132 - 133.


HERE is a map you can use to look at the locations of the various rivers. You can click on it to enlarge it.

~*~ Pio

Iaurhirwen 05-06-2005 06:36 AM

I think I may have found the misconception. The map that pio has just given us the link to and the map I consulted myself have different names for the same river. My map, one of those bookmarks that fold out into a map that were released by New Line, gives the name of swanfleet for the river. While the map that pio has just linked for us has given the name of Adorn for the same river. The map in ROTK also has the name of Adorn for the river.

Either the map that I, and apparantly Gil-Galad consulted are incorrect, or this is another reason which I am to tired to think of now.

I believe that the person who initially answered Adorn should go next, owing to the fact that we were talking about the same river.

Gil-Galad 05-06-2005 08:35 AM

hmm....strange...after i looked at the map in my ROTk, it is indeed the Adorn, but my big wall map of middle earth says it was the Swanfleet(i was using that map), so anyways it is the Adorn! whoever said Adorn can go next!


*Again somebody has given me a bad rep for no reason at all!!! i'm getting sick and tired of this...*

Firefoot 05-06-2005 02:14 PM

I guess that's me.

List four locations where a red sun was seen in LotR.

Firefoot 05-24-2005 04:35 PM

Anyone? How about three locations?

Gil-Galad 05-24-2005 04:37 PM

Rohan...Minas Tirith...and...umm...Fangorn?

Firefoot 05-25-2005 02:19 PM

Rohan - good.
Minas Tirith and Fangorn - if you can give me a quote I'll give it to you, but neither of those were places I had in mind.

Firefoot 06-11-2005 08:44 PM

I recently found the Minas Tirith reference, coincidentally, so only one more location would be needed...

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-15-2005 01:15 AM

Haha!
 
Rohan, Minas Tirith, and the Crossroads.

Firefoot 06-17-2005 09:53 PM

That'll do!

Other places I had were Mordor and the Barrow-downs.

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-18-2005 05:27 AM

Thanks!
 
Where is Sauron's Isle by the end of the Third Age?

Firefoot 06-18-2005 06:37 AM

Long-since drowned by the Great Sea in the War of Wrath.

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-18-2005 06:49 AM

Of course.
 
Your thread. :)

Firefoot 06-18-2005 02:26 PM

Where was the Land of Bow and Helm?

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-19-2005 07:22 AM

Dor Cúarthol.
 
It's south of the Forest of Brethil, west of Doriath, east of Narog, and north of Nargothrond.

Firefoot 06-19-2005 07:55 AM

Perfecto.

Nilpaurion Felagund 07-31-2005 08:15 AM

Sorry about this.
 
Name the region in Aman south of the Bay of Eldamar.

Alcarillo 07-31-2005 01:11 PM

Avathar.

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-01-2005 03:45 AM

That's it.
 
Take it. :)

Alcarillo 08-01-2005 08:53 PM

Name three Middle-earth mountain ranges named for colors.

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-02-2005 03:13 AM

The Blue Mountains, the Grey Mountains, and the White Mountains.

Alcarillo 08-02-2005 02:35 PM

Yep. Your turn.

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-03-2005 12:38 AM

Thanks!
 
In which mountain range does Rerir belong to?

Gil-Galad 08-03-2005 08:44 AM

Ered Luin does it not?

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-03-2005 06:41 PM

Yep.
 
Your thread. :)

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-07-2005 08:40 PM

*bump*
 
Gil-galad?

Joy 08-12-2005 09:59 PM

To bring this back up, what is Soronumë?


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