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Oh, yes, could be... hmm... do you have any particular idea what kind of hint should I give? Because I can't stumble upon anything right now :)
Well, I can advise you - forget the first three lines and think about them as the last thing. Focus on the second part. |
Could it be Maglor?
We left our homes for the new lands. - obvious, Noldor left Aman With my high hopes I failed my friends. - erm... he wished to survive of the oath more peacefully then his brothers Rain pouring down, creature unknown that brought us doom. - hmm... ok, no comments, I'm sure it could mean something, but I don't just feel like torturing my brain anymore :D Now I am left to talk to myself. What now to do? Sit down or play? But the doom came: Forever stay. - Maglor's end alone in the shores, "bonded" to the Silmaril he threw to the sea and according to legends, always singing and playing by the seashore. Any close? |
Durin the Deathless?
We left our homes for the new lands. - dwarves leaving the belegost and nogrod for moria. With my high hopes I failed my friends. - dwarves was adamant against sauron, but in the end they excluded everyone around them and focused on themselves and their greed Rain pouring down, creature unknown that brought us doom. - the sleeping Balrog that drove the dwarves out. Now I am left to talk to myself. What now to do? Sit down or play? But the doom came: Forever stay. - called Durins Bane, forever etched in the minds of all dwarves. Durin the Deathless includes every Durin due to his name, and with that they each experienced the rise and fall of moria. |
I must disappoint you - neither of your answers is correct. Lommy, I suggest you try to rack your brain a little more to find an explanation even for the rain part ;) Gil, your interpretations are sometimes very... forced, and you certainly don't provide any interpretation for the "rain pouring down" part. That is no poetic filler to make a rhyme or anything like that. In fact, I suggest focusing more on the "rain pouring down" verse than on the "we left our homes" part - the explanation of the home-leaving is far, far less apparent, I believe.
But don't let that bring you down - keep trying :) |
Could it be Turin?
We left our homes for the new lands.-Turin being sent from Dor-lomin to Doriath With my high hopes I failed my friends.- The kingdom of Nargothrond is destroyed because of his high hopes Rain pouring down,-it was raining when Nienor arrived near Brethil creature unknown that brought us doom.-Glaurung, coming to attack Brethil Now I am left to talk to myself. What now to do? Sit down or play?-after Glaurung is killed, Turin debates whether he should seek his kin in Doriath or avoid them so as not to cast his doom upon them But the doom came: Forever stay.-Mablung brings him the tidings which prove that Nienor was Niniel and Turin kills himself. I know I must be way off... |
Well, not that bad, but it is not the correct answer. Why the strong emphasis on "we" when we'd be talking about Túrin alone? And the "we" are all the same all the time. In fact, the riddle is pretty consistent. We have the Subject, Its Friends (all subsumed under "we" in the beginning), and Creature Unknown. That's all, and that's all you need to know. And still the whole life story of the subject is caught there, not missing a single important thing.
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Could it be Beren and Luthien?
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And which of them would be the "I"? But no, I can tell you, it's neither of them.
Keep trying. Really, it's very simple. :) |
How's Hurin?
He took off for the battle of Unnumbered Tears, With his hopes of victory he ultimately failed, Rain- no idea, creature- shall we say collectively the traitors of the Easterlings Then he sat for years on that chair by himself, And then he was set free and had time on his hands And he found out about the deaths of his children and his wife died, leaving him with practically nothing to live for. Maybe this is bizarre, but distintelly possible. |
Good try, but unfortunately wrong.
The "creature unknown" is quite important there (since it brought "them" doom!), and it is only one creature, really, not any collective label for a group. Also, it was unknown - that's also very, very, very, very important - the Easterlings, after all, were known to the others. Their treachery was unknown (or rather: unforseen; at the moment it really came to be, it of course became, and thus was, known even to the betrayed ones). |
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Legate, I hope you're still around because I think I have it. :smokin:
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If that is not correct, then I will ask for a hint. :) |
Yay!!! Finally! Wonderful, Azaghal, you have accomplished what many attempted but could not do! Fantastic! Congratulations to you! And you may now take the thread and give us something of your production for exchange :)
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Thanks for the compliments, Legate. Here's what I could come up with:
Once an ambassador in the North, I held briefly one of the three in my hand, A mere warrior when tears were shed uncounted, Twice a bearer of fateful news, Twice as a warden I failed. Hope this is not too easy, also please bear with a non-native English speaker. :) |
Mablung?
Once an ambassador in the North, –he was one of the messengers Thingol sent north to the Feast of Reuniting. I held briefly one of the three in my hand, – he cut the Silmaril from Carcharoth's body and passed it to Beren. A mere warrior when tears were shed uncounted, –he fought in the Battle of Unnumbered Tears. Twice a bearer of fateful news, –he brought Thingol and Melian the news of Carcharoth's onslaught and the news that Morwen and Nienor were lost. Twice as a warden I failed. –He failed to keep Carcharoth or the Dwarves of Nogrod out of Doriath. |
Well done, Nerwen. Maybe it was too easy after all. Only nitpick: the fateful news I had in mind were about the arrival of Carcharoth which led to Beren's death, and the news about Nienor leading to Turin's death.
Also, the failures as a warden I had in mind were his death before the gates in Menegroth at the hand of the Dwarves, and his failure to keep Morwen and Nienor safe. This last one may be my fault as I am not sure wether "warden" is the proper word when applied to people, or is only correct for places (like I said English is not my first language). Anyway, the thread is yours, Nerwen. :) |
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Okay, now I have to think up a riddle. I am terrible at this.:( |
Indeed you are. It's been two and half months and you still couldn't come up with anything. Unbelievable.
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I think Nerwen has alltogether forsaken the quiz room
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In a heroic attempt to revive the Quiz Room, The Might returns on a shiny Dragon he was able to buy with money he made of the latest financial crisis. So after a lot of deals with corrupt businessmen he now feels strong enough to announce the next riddle:
A term of address, simple in sense Fairly normal, without any glance To a great explorer once given By his father who had just seen'em. You have 48 hours. :D |
I think at least I need a hint. ;)
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Well, a bigger hint then I should probably give: Númenor
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I'm convinced this has something to do with Aldarion and his father Meneldur; but I think you need a more specific answer? :)
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Yes, that is true, now you need to tell me the term used.
You of course must realise that I cannot really give any more hints now. :D |
I do not think I will ever remember without looking in the book. It's been too long since I read it. Good riddle!
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Are you looking for "King"? As in Tar-Aldarion , King of Numenor?
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It's "normal, without glance".
Nothing like "The Awesome" or "The Great" or even "King". EDIT: your answer just made me think of an Elvis-like Aldarion. :D |
Still no luck? Then think about family ties.
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Could you possibly mean "son"?
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:D Yes! And the Elvish for it would be...
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Onya?
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Correct! Take it away, sir! :)
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Where's Eonwe?
I'm riddle-deprived :p |
I'm sorry. You can take it if you want.
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I attempted a little riddle. Hope no-one minds me jumping in (or my awkward rhymes)...
Winged sun first light did greet Flowers sprang beneath his feet But despite all his valour and might Bright day turned into blackest night The weight I carried was no longer there A burden too heavy for me to bear |
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Hi Skip,
nice one, could it be Fingolfin? Winged sun first light did meet, Flowers sprang beneath his feet -when the sun first rose ovee the host of Noldor But despite all his valour and might, Bright day turned into blackest night, - of the duel of Fingolfin and Morgoth The weight I carried was no longer there A burden too heavy for me to bear - guilt over the kinslaying, or the weight of Morgoth's big boot? |
Close, but no cigar, Rumil.
The first four lines do refer to Fingolfin though. |
Horsey, horsey, a kingdom for my horsey
Aha,
tis clear now, surely Rochallor, Fingolfin's mighty steed? The burden being the High King himself (I guess Rochallor was fortunate that Forlong wasn't his master!) |
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