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Nogrod 06-09-2015 02:50 PM

Btw. the phantom: you're assuming a lot... :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 06-09-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure (Post 698830)
Maybe they won't make the mistake of making a list at all this time.

:p

It thought I made myself clear yesterday. I'll just have to continue on.
https://throughtwoblueeyes.files.wor...po-and-han.jpg
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Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 698832)
Indeed, and in that spirit, perhaps we should take a likable proven innocent, perhaps Greenie, and tie her up and burn her alive.

No comment.

You know what I am afraid of? That we might still not have very many Wolves on this thread. It really looks like (also from e.g. the horrible failure of the innocents to organise to e.g. get a list for us done, among other things, and the players like Eomer or Morm who you'd expect to be wise just messing around and undermining such efforts) the Wolves are in fairly big strength out there. I hope they get some "kill each other" thing toNight. Would save us a lot of trouble.

Speaking of Night-killing: there was one thing I've been wanting to say for ages about Boro. The claim that there is an assassin role makes a lot of sense - BECAUSE!!! - because we have the distinction of "prey" and "predator" on the Dead thread. Because I could easily imagine that an assassin role would be developed by Kuru with the idea that it's fairly strong role, but with the further contribution to the confusion that it might show as "predator", even if it's technically a "good guy".

Lalaith 06-09-2015 03:08 PM

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Because I could easily imagine that an assassin role would be developed by Kuru with the idea that it's fairly strong role, but with the further contribution to the confusion that it might show as "predator", even if it's technically a "good guy".
Well...when I was alive, I did point out that the rules said EVERYONE had to be on their toes for the secret role...it might be 'chaotic neutral' or something.

I've finally had time to read the thread properly this evening, I needed something to take my mind off the horrors of episode 9 (was that what was upsetting people on Sunday evening?) some nice links there Rikae and Phantom :)

Nogrod 06-09-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 698836)
Speaking of Night-killing: there was one thing I've been wanting to say for ages about Boro. The claim that there is an assassin role makes a lot of sense - BECAUSE!!! - because we have the distinction of "prey" and "predator" on the Dead thread. Because I could easily imagine that an assassin role would be developed by Kuru with the idea that it's fairly strong role, but with the further contribution to the confusion that it might show as "predator", even if it's technically a "good guy".

But then there is also this:
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Originally Posted by Nerwen
Boro, I had actually thought you might be the secret role for some time, and I don't doubt your reveal, and that you are not on the side of the wolves. I hope you'll understand, though, if I point out that we can't really be sure you're on the side of the village. Just something everyone needs to bear in mind.

So a Seer-Nerwen is not at least openly backing that - which is interesting as she seems to be happy to make hints on other players who might be innocent.

Then again, it might be that the seer gets normal info while I think it's only us who get these predator / pray -options.

Rikae 06-09-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen
Just something everyone needs to bear in mind.

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Originally Posted by Nerwen
bear in mind.

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Originally Posted by Nerwen
bear

Teehee.

Nogrod 06-09-2015 03:19 PM

I hope she is doing that to scare the wolves away and not to gloat... :eek:

Nogrod 06-09-2015 03:20 PM

Second thought: that would put it into a totally new perspective the post where she told Boro she trusts him to have the special role... :rolleyes:


EDIT: aka. the exact same post, I see now... :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 06-09-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae (Post 698839)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen
Just something everyone needs to bear in mind.

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Originally Posted by Nerwen
bear in mind.

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Originally Posted by Nerwen
bear

Teehee.

Aaaaaaaaaah!!!

Aganzir 06-09-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 698836)
It thought I made myself clear yesterday. I'll just have to continue on.
https://throughtwoblueeyes.files.wor...po-and-han.jpg

LEGATE OF AMON SASS YOU'RE KILLING ME.

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Originally Posted by Legate
Speaking of Night-killing: there was one thing I've been wanting to say for ages about Boro. The claim that there is an assassin role makes a lot of sense - BECAUSE!!! - because we have the distinction of "prey" and "predator" on the Dead thread. Because I could easily imagine that an assassin role would be developed by Kuru with the idea that it's fairly strong role, but with the further contribution to the confusion that it might show as "predator", even if it's technically a "good guy".

I see what you did there, Kuru. :p
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Originally Posted by Aganzir (Post 697700)
I need to tell you though - after DAY 1 I went to sleep not feeling positive I'd still be alive in the morning, and I had a dream I was lynched and Kuru posted PREDATOR in my death narration. I was confused but eventually figured the Hunter is also a predator of sorts.

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Originally Posted by Rikae (Post 698839)
Teehee.

If you were here, you would have just seen me spit food all over my plate.

Legate of Amon Lanc 06-09-2015 03:32 PM

Whichever the case, I think it is slowly time for me to vote and leave this thread for now (which I will this time really do in a matter of minutes. Dozens of minutes at most anyway ;) ). So, Nilp, hope your darling stayed safe and sound during this Night, others, let's hope we have preferably two Wolfsies here in the morning (not that I'd enjoy the presence of two more trolls, but it at least means they can't terrorize the Living), and let's hope the Living don't keep us awake one more night, although I am fairly worried it might be just the case.

Legate of Amon Lanc 06-09-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir (Post 698844)
LEGATE OF AMON SASS YOU'RE KILLING ME.

'xcept you are already dead. Like all of us.

That said,

++Lalaith

Good night.

Macalaure 06-09-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate
It thought I made myself clear yesterday. I'll just have to continue on.

And we won't stop,
Cause we can't stop.

:smokin:

Nogrod 06-09-2015 03:55 PM

You should be Thunderstruck - Finnish style! :cool::D

Rikae 06-09-2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod (Post 698850)
You should be Thunderstruck - Finnish style! :cool::D

Cultural appropriation! :p


the phantom 06-09-2015 04:06 PM

If the Unknown Role is a Werebear, I won't feel bad about helping him win, as per the rules he is not listed under "Baddie". Since the role is unspecified I count him on my side.

As a similar situation: it would be like having an Ordo villager but with a secret role of Killer Cobbler, and if he is left alive at end-game after all the Wolves are dead his power allows him to mass murder the other villagers. One could not blame the villagers for not lynching him because their directive is to lynch Wolves, therefore leaving the unknown Killer Cobbler alive would be functioning correctly as Goodies (i.e. it would be wrong for the innocent to lynch someone that is not listed as enemy nor suspected as enemy etc.).

Thus, if the game continues even after everyone suspects all the Wolves are Dead, I will continue helping Boro.

Aganzir 06-09-2015 04:17 PM

I'm going to bed.

Fingers crossed we've bagged a wolf in Lalaith.

the phantom 06-09-2015 04:57 PM

This thread is simply turning into a music-sharing thread. I'm sure our Mod is upset we aren't discussing Werebears and such.

In other news, sports.

Rikae 06-09-2015 05:23 PM

I hope there's not a hint in that American football stuff...

Kuruharan 06-09-2015 06:25 PM

DAY 5 Starting Early
 
Due to unforeseen circumstances, I am starting DAY 5 early, and sadly for the Dead Tread, sans narration.

Fortunately(for some), we already have a majority.

Lalaith is a PREDATOR.

Nerwen has been killed.

The Missing or Dead:
Kuruharan
Nogrod
the phantom
Rune Son of Bjarne
Aganzir
A Little Green
(Prey)
Macalaure
Rikae
Legate of Amon Lanc
(Prey)
Loslote
Firefoot
Lalaith
(Predator)
Nilpaurion Felagund
Nerwen

The Living:
Formendacil
satansaloser2005
McCaber
Boromir88
Thinlómien
Eomer of the Rohirrim
mormegil
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath

Illusion:
Gwathagor
(Ordo)

the phantom 06-09-2015 06:30 PM

Ooo, ooo, we have loads of info now after that! :)

Wait- we shouldn't be smiling about Nerwen being dead, heh.

Also, the Living now know they can ask about not only the Dead, but the Living. At least I HOPE they realize that.

Okay, Nerwen- what are the facts? (Particularly any facts you discovered during the Night.)

Loslote 06-09-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan
With no new corpses to discover

...

Then they realized that Nerwen was missing. They hunted for her high and low, but there was no sign of her.

Why no body? Could Nerwen have been the Ranger or something? :eek:

Macalaure 06-09-2015 06:47 PM

Lalaith: Booooooo!

Nerwen: Booooooo!

Rikae 06-09-2015 06:51 PM

Huzzah!

Well...

unless there was one kill because Sally got ranger-protected, which I suppose is likely.

Anyway, welcome to the other side, Nerwen.

Nerwen 06-09-2015 07:25 PM

Greetings, fellow-corpses!

First things first- Formendacil and Mormegil are wolves. Dreamed them last Night.

Firefoot 06-09-2015 07:28 PM

Didn't see that coming - I was sure Morm was innocent.

Nice ruse, though. You had a lot of people (me included) going with that pm gimmick.

Nerwen 06-09-2015 07:30 PM

Also, Shasta is the Ranger.

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-09-2015 07:32 PM

Well, that escalated quickly.
 
Three known Baddies in a diurnal cycle... now I really hope I can get back.

Nerwen 06-09-2015 07:33 PM

Now I'd better do some reading, hadn't I? I hope those villagers were paying attention.

the phantom 06-09-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot
I was sure Morm was innocent.

Particularly at the start he managed to look quite good, without posting overly much, but he finally started looking sneaky enough that he was worth the dream. It's basically the same with Form- and I rather thought that Boro was going to take care of him during the Night after casting his Form-vote yesterday. Too bad he didn't.

Loslote 06-09-2015 07:38 PM

So we only have one more unknown wolf, right? Well...

I'll bet all of you that the Dead thread gets to 1050 posts before the living thread gets to 775. If we do, you get the name of one of my packmates. If we don't, I get to pick the next Night's scrying target out of four options approved of by general consensus. What do you say? :p

Rikae 06-09-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 698872)
Greetings, fellow-corpses!

First things first- Formendacil and Mormegil are wolves. Dreamed them last Night.

Tweedledum & tweedledee! :D

Excellent.

the phantom 06-09-2015 07:42 PM

I believe Lottie just said she'd reward us for a filibuster. :)

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-09-2015 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae (Post 698860)
I hope there's not a hint in that American football stuff...

Well, if the Wolves punt (go for known innocents) instead of going for first down (Sally), we're in a good position for a punt return touchdown.

(Am I doing this right??? This hand-egg thing is still somewhat nebulous to me.)

Speaking of nebulous... assuming phantom's list is correct, there's still a Wolf among (Dead) Nogrod, Rikae, (Living) Mith, McCaber, and Kath.

Firefoot 06-09-2015 07:44 PM

So actually, it would be in our best interests today if the Living didn't manage to come up with a list for us, so we could just cast our doubling vote for someone who votes for Form or morm. Undoubtedly they will be much more on top of their game though and leave us no way to communicate the intended message... :rolleyes:

Loslote 06-09-2015 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 698882)
I believe Lottie just said she'd reward us for a filibuster. :)

Yup! Interested?

the phantom 06-09-2015 07:46 PM

Well, I'm glad Mith jumped out and suggested they get their rears in gear this time in terms of making a voting list.

But again- I'm worried they won't remember that they can ask us about the Living seeing as we have Nerwen here. Now technically we should be able to trust them to figure it out, but they haven't proven trustworthy. Nerwen- you probably should've said "I will dream of X and Y. You WILL ask the Dead about them tomorrow if I'm not here. You WILL make your voting list nice & early. You WILL NOT hold your vote until the final hour!" :D

We must treat children as children, yes?

Rikae 06-09-2015 07:47 PM

This is just the scenario I had in mind when I designed the first Mandos game: the dead know several wolves and are desperate to get that info to the living.
I anticipated that it would be very frustrating for them, and very entertaining for me as the mod.

:rolleyes:

:D

Anyway, Lottie's packmates are probably all dead or revealed, but I say we take her up on it so we can have more music & comedy (sports are optional).

the phantom 06-09-2015 07:48 PM

++Nerwen Filibuster

Perhaps if the Living see our post count going crazy and see that it's always Nerwen posting they'll think to themselves, "Ooo, perhaps she has something to say?"

Loslote 06-09-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae (Post 698887)
Anyway, Lottie's packmates are probably all dead or revealed, but I say we take her up on it so we can have more music & comedy (sports are optional).

Presumably! But wouldn't it be nice to know for sure? :D

Firefoot 06-09-2015 07:49 PM

It did take the Living five hours to get from the top of page 17 to the top of page 18 in their thread...


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