Why don't you let it happen organically...and why are you presuming she'd tell you the truth? ;)

If the Living were posting, we could talk about them. Oh, no, I think they've posted six times since we started. :rolleyes: We might have beaten them even without the filibustering.

I can't speak for tp, but I just want an excuse to spam the thread.

Unfortunately, that might make the real mods visit our happy thread in their wrath. I would prefer that not happen.

Oh no.

And in that case, on topic: does anyone else (except a known wolf) have an opinion on pack composition? It is our best bet at finding the sixth wolf/learning whether the sixth wolf is dead.

I'm not sure I understand you.

Are you saying what I've been posting is merely spam?

I find that extremely offensive.

I do solemnly swear! :Merisu:

That we have a full pack in the Dead thread? :confused:

Well, can we assume Lottie's pack took her advice and killed Firefoot. As opposed to killing Nerwen or Sally?

If so, we just look at the player list and see who might do such a thing. Who would follow orders? Who wouldn't gun for the likely known Gifteds? Might being busy make them more likely to do such things?

Morm & Form are the knowns. Perhaps McCaber, Mith, or Kath is a Wolf. But it's easier to just look at the two we know. What do you think?

But then of course if it was Lottie's pack that killed Firefoot, that would mean Lalaith was in her pack since she obviously didn't kill herself.

Unless Lalaith's pack tried to kill Nerwen and was blocked by Shasta. Yeah, actually, that seems pretty likely.

I'll just hypothesize packs and kills and the rest of you can tell me why I'm wrong. Or tell me what additional Wolf would make sense with Lottie. And so on...

Lottie & Form & ???------- Rune--- Legate--- Firefoot----------- Nerwen
Mac & Morm & Lalaith---- TP------ Rikae---- Nerwen (block)--- Nerwen

You're wrong. :Merisu:

EDIT: And I'll tell you why in seventy-five posts. ;)

Wasn't Lalaith targetted by Boro, or am I remembering this correctly?

Hypothetical scenarios:

NIGHT 4:

Ranger protects Nerwen.
Grip attack Firefoot.
Fang attack Nerwen, fail.
Boro targets Lalaith, succeeds.

or

Only one Wolfgang (TM Nogrod) is left and Boro's responsible for the second kill.

NIGHT 5:

Ranger protects Sally.
One group attacks Nerwen.
Other group attacks Sally, fails.
Boro targets someone, fails.

or

Only one Wolfgang is left, and they successfully kill Nerwen.

Anyway, I hit a light patch at work and am planning catch up to my Chinese cartoon backlog, so unless you want a running commentary, I'll be mostly quiet 'till empowerment time.

I'm guessing Form/Mac and morm/Lottie. Not sure about Lal. Form and morm do a fair amount of wishy-washy accusations against each other though so they could be teammates trying to derail suspicion. I would probably guess with Mac in that case and put Lal with Lottie in that case. As phantom put it, she seems like the order taking type.

Unfortunately, neither of those scenarios lend themselves to easily and simply pointing the village to the last wolf in a pack.

My previous crossed with phantom's #975.
 

Right, I forgot that they could've double-targetted Nerwen. In any case, Sally might be in big trouble and there's no grand return for me. :(

Just looking at Mac, morm, and Form the voting record is a little confusing. There's definitely some wolf on wolf action going on, despite the arguments early on in the game that this strategy wouldn't make sense in this game.

Also I'm going to bed now so the Europeans can take up Lottie's challenge in the morning...

Yep. With two nights of killing, your return was always very much in doubt considering they already have plans to kill Sally. The best chance a Lover has of returning is to get Night-killed (thus only has to survive one cycle). Your only hope is that Shasta didn't protect Sally and does tomorrow Night.

I'll try.

Unless it's Lottie-Morm and Mac-Form-Lalaith, because while I know Morm went at Form and Mac I don't recall off hand Mac or Form going at one another.

So, my dreams were-

Night One: phantom and Shasta.. Ordo and Ranger.

Night Two: Aganzir and Mac. Hunter and Wolf.

Night Three: Lommy and Lottie. Ordo and Wolf.

Night Four: Firefoot and Eomer.. Ordos.

Night Five: Form and Morm. Wolves.

I did not dream Boro.. I didn't think about the "bear in mind" gag being taken as a Seer- hint- probably shouldn't have said it.

Yes, but as I recall some of those arguments came from known wolves.

Hrn...
 

No one's picked up on the DAY 4 narration anomaly, unless morm's playing dumb.

Also, McCaber:

Full marks.

So Formwolf urges caution in evaluating Wolflote's claims.
#539 #542
#551

Mormwolf is for taking Wolflote's claims more or less seriously:#546
And usesFormwolf's views on the subject as a reason to suspect him.

Interesting.

One complication: Around DL, I'm probably going to be travelling, and there's a dead zone as you go over the mountains here.

Very quiet around here. You'd think everyone was dead or something.

Honestly I'd be spooked if I were alive.

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You were saying?

Well I'm around Nerwen but I don't know if you want to hang around with the likes of me...:Merisu:
A couple of WW-related things (if anyone is willing to fill me in)
I remember a really good, quite fierce WW player from way back, in RL she was a young wife, tall I seem to remember, and possibly living in the Midwest. Her name is at the tip of my tongue and it's driving me nuts.
Also, a lovers question - when the roles were first introduced I remember there was a big debate about whether they had to be of opposite gender and eventually the conservative view won out. Is it still the case now?

Depends on the mod I guess. Kath and I had women lovers in our game (thanks to the dice - really it could have been anything), and my last run as a lover in the original Mandos game was gender-swapped Beren & Lúthien.

In any case, Kath is most likely not in Tweedleform's pack - the only two times she voted, it was for Form. I hope she's not a wolf anyway because with her post count, she'd be very difficult to pin. Then again would a wolf have forgotten a day? Even knowing Kath's memory, it seems unlikely.

There was an exchange between Tweedlemorm and Mith that springs to mind. Won't go looking for it on my phone but remember morm very gently explaining to Mith that he'd been pushing her to get a reaction as he's usually quite good at reading her and is now inclined to think she's innocent? Knowing morm is a wolf wants me to go back to it and look at Mith's reaction as well.

EXCUSE ME, McC? At a maximum? Three wolves? We only found out about Lalaith last night.

I remember a fierce WWer from the mid-20s (of game number of course, not years) who goes by Roa_Aoife. And I remember her mainly because she takes issue with my, ah, undeveloped sense of self-preservation.

JennyHallu is also another female player from that era, but she wasn't fierce (at least when I played with her).

Did that help?

Good that they seem to have scratched the information list idea. However Nilp, if you go back to the living thread, can you also tell them to vote as early as possible in the future? No way I'm going to be here at 4 am while they're debating.

(Although I should probably admit, both times I've drifted awake after 5 am so far I've checked what happened here before going back to sleep. :rolleyes:)

Ahem.

So do people just not read my posts? C'mon, guys, just because I'm evil doesn't mean I can't say helpful things when it suits me. :rolleyes:

Yes, of course, Roa it was. Now that you mention it, I do remember how annoyed with you she used to get...hee hee :smokin:
I chiefly remember her from the Penguin game, the only time I've been a seer and bungled it so badly that I was nearly lynched on the first day. I dreamed of Boro, tried to raise suspicion against him and he responded by leading a far more successful witch-hunt against me which forced me to out myself. Roa was magnificent - she went into such a rage against the village for trying to lynch me, and stayed up til deadline to defend me against possible attack. It's how Boro got his 'Fenris Penguin' tag. I think the other penguins were Ang and Nog?
Not my finest hour.

In my defense, I read the 3 pages in 15 minutes just after waking up and haven't gone back yet! I remember nothing anybody said before page 25. :p

Fair enough. My reading comprehension first thing when I wake up is terrible even if I'm reading slow. :p