I'd love for her to vote Morm and then we all stack and thus signal Form.

(xpost: yep, absolutely agree)

Yeah what phantom means is, we don't want to empower her unless it also betters our chances of lynching a wolf.

xed - yeah definitely.

Am I allowed to feel special now? :Merisu:

Anyway I think we can vote for Lommy, honestly if the village messes it up it's their problem at this point. :D

Yes, Agan. :)

Exactly.

But if she doesn't, is there another reasonable plan but to vote her anyway? That's what I'm asking.

Even if it risked us actually controlling our own vote?

Yes, feel very special. :smokin:

Could also empower morm. Or Form. :p Lommy would definitely be the best though. But I can't see what could go wrong as I very much doubt she suddenly decides to jump on Boro.

She was planning to vote morm right?

They need to lynch a Wolf. I'm just hoping they won't need our bonus vote to make the difference between, say, an unknown and Morm/Form, or Morm/Form and Boro, etc. That's why I wouldn't vote now. Not yet.

I mean if we decide the vote like now (when Lommy votes the latest) then you'd get two votes (mine & Legate's), if you then start to think other options (if Lommy doesn't vote a wolf) you need to get it done without two votes on your back.

Also I don't think we need to wake Legate up. If you, Greenie and I vote for her now, it builds a base for piling the rest of the votes on her as well but leaves enough freedom to empower somebody else (in this case, Form or McC) if it looks like our vote would tie it between morm and somebody else.

Lommy is back from the bathroom!

VOTE! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

You can do it, Lommy!

http://38.media.tumblr.com/3c8edf687...fgu1r578ut.jpg

Oh yes, Greenie is around.

Just remember we need five votes to be sure though. Just reminding you so thee is very little leeway to go on other directions...

Ah, the Power Rangers of the North. I wonder why Aragorn never put out a call to his kin? They could've been useful, particularly when Sauron unleashed MechaGodzilla.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

You thought I was exaggerating for the sake of humor when I made fun of the Living earlier- about discussing for no reason and holding their votes...

Nope. Not exaggerating. They're really that bad.

:rolleyes:

HA SHE VOTED.

Need to think before voting though. Numbers.

Whoa!

++ Lommy

Morm has two votes now. He'll have to organize a counter-wagon.

It'd be really nice if it's against Form.

REMAINING VOTERS:

Formendacil
satansaloser2005
McCaber
Boromir88
Eomer of the Rohirrim
mormegil
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen

VOTED:

Kath -> Morm
Lommy -> Morm (2)

Does anyone have a list of which way the remaining voters are likely to vote? That might be helpful if the leanings are strong enough.

The known wolves have 3 votes, and then there is Rikae who might vote our way (I hope and kind almost trust) or not.

So to be sure 5 votes is needed.

Nerwen is not granted. How about Nilp?

Rune might of course apear but probably not...

Legate can be awaken to vote if needed.

So we could have 3-4 European votes for Lommy. If we vote and leave, that leaves four of you (phantom, Rikae, Firefoot and Nilp) with two known wolves, as Nerwen, Rune and Lalaith are unlikely to turn up.

If you decide to go for Lommy in the end, all good.

If however an extra vote for morm would tie the lynch, we shouldn't vote as then the wolves could jump on our Lommy vote and tie it.

So should we abstain then?

Or give her like one European vote to be on the safe side?

edit: xed since my last

Quite a many voiced their suspicion on morm.

Boro might be one gaining a few votes, but I'm not sure if enough to make a tie there.

Right- three known Wolves could mess things up. Technically cannot count on either Rikae or Nog.

Firefoot and I WILL be here at the finish. Nilp will be (or I will be very cross with him). That gives us three. Then we need either Legate or Agan to give us knowns equaling unknowns (and the innocent of Rikae/Nog will swing it our way).

(xpost: didn't see Nog vote)

I wouldn't bet on Lalaith not appearing (not betting on her appearing either, but let's not assume too much).

If ou guys want me to vote for Lomzy I need to know it, like, now.

Well you can count on me. I already voted - and am going to bed.

My last question just is: do you want another vote for Lommy or not?

LIVING:

Formendacil
satansaloser2005
McCaber
Boromir88
Thinlómien
Eomer of the Rohirrim
mormegil
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath

Three wolves there, is my guess - both packs still represented. If there's no lynch today but two kills tonight, the village may be at 5-3 tomorrow. Which is not good, even if the 3 are in different packs.

Okay, so, if both Nog and Green go for Lommy and we are desperate to change it at the finish.

Worst case: Mac-Lal-Lottie-Rikae pile on to give Lommy 6. Firefoot, Nilp, Agan, Legate, and I cannot overcome them.

And another question: are you really sure you want to put getting the message through in doubt for a possibility there is a tie in the living thread?

There could be, yes, but how probable is that with only two or three wolves left there (and not necessary on the same side)?

How about Greenie votes for Form?

That way there's 1 for Lommy and 1 for Form now, and (hopefully) 4 innocents and max 3 (2 most likely though - Lalaith didn't vote yesterday either) wolves.

Good point. But why do you think two kills? And wouldn't Boro then take off morm making it 5-2 and they would know then Form is a wolf aka 5-1 the next Day?

I think a second Lommy vote won't hurt even if a change of plans is needed so just to be on the safe side -

++ Lommy

Nog - that way there will be a message. Obviously Lommy is preferable to morm as she's innocent and would kind of convey information about two wolves, but I prefer a lynch to a no lynch in any case.

What if Green left a vote for one of the other truthful info candidates (like Form)? Then the Baddies wouldn't have a double-vote to pile onto, just a single. Thus worst case scenario they could swing five votes, whereas Firefoot, Nilp, Phantom, Legate, Agan, could outweigh them by dumping onto the other single vote.

But that would require Agan-Legate of course. Is there someone else alive I'm forgetting? Bah.

(x-post: never mind, Greenie already voted, fingers crossed)

It's 3 am you can't expect me to remember Boro. :p

Sorry 'bout that, bad timing! Anyway good night guys. <3