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Thinlómien 04-21-2009 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Andsigil (Post 594062)
Hmmm... I can't seem to recall Thorondor meeting Glorfindel, but it's possible they met at Gondolin, I suppose.

Thorondor saved Glorfindel's body after the fight with the balrog...

Thuringwethil -> Bilbo

Nerwen 04-21-2009 05:31 AM

Thuringwethil–Sauron-Gollum-Bilbo.

Or is that too lazy?

Thinlómien 04-21-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 594068)
Thuringwethil–Sauron-Gollum-Bilbo.

Or is that too lazy?

Aiaiai, it's pretty lazy. :D But I'll accept it, you were smarter than me. ;) I was thinking Thuringwethil -> Lúthien -> Mandos -> Nienna -> Gandalf -> Bilbo.

Please take the thread. :)

Nerwen 04-21-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien (Post 594161)
Aiaiai, it's pretty lazy. :D But I'll accept it, you were smarter than me. ;) I was thinking Thuringwethil -> Lúthien -> Mandos -> Nienna -> Gandalf -> Bilbo.

You can also have Thuringwethil– Lúthien– Melian– Galadriel– Anyone in the Fellowship– Bilbo.

So I had that in reserve.;)

Nerwen 04-21-2009 11:01 PM

All right, I've thought of one.

Tilion => Mîm.

Beregond 04-21-2009 11:30 PM

Is it a stretch to say Tilion > Melian > Beleg > Mîm? :)

Nerwen 04-22-2009 12:38 AM

Sorry. Try again.:)

Andsigil 04-22-2009 04:07 AM

Tilion - Arien - Morgoth- Glaurung - Turin - Mim

Nerwen 04-22-2009 04:29 AM

Ah, now that works (obviously), but I forgot to specify that it's five steps maximum. Sorry about that.:o

Hmmn... I'll give it to you anyway, Andsigil, as your way is quite clever (and completely different from mine). Would you like to have a try at the shorter path, just for the exercise?

Andsigil 04-22-2009 02:18 PM

Okay, 5 moves.... How about:

Tilion - Orome - Thingol - Turin - Mim?

Nerwen 04-22-2009 07:55 PM

Please take the thread.:)

Andsigil 04-22-2009 09:50 PM

I'm beginning to realize that solving these puzzles is easier than making them...:(

How about: Lossoth Chief > Elphir

Nerwen 04-22-2009 10:40 PM

Help...
 
Er... how about you tell me who Elphir is?:confused:

Andsigil 04-22-2009 11:04 PM

Certainly. :)

Elphir was the twenty-third Prince of Dol Amroth. He was the oldest son of Prince Imrahil.

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-23-2009 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Andsigil (Post 594428)
I'm beginning to realize that solving these puzzles is easier than making them...:(

How about: Lossoth Chief > Elphir

Yes, it is. Well, if you try to be a tad nasty about it. :D


Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> (Aranarth ->) Elrond -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

(Hm, vzv, Nerwen, using Sauron or Gandalf is illegal in this thread. :p See first post.)

Nerwen 04-23-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund (Post 594457)
Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> (Aranarth ->) Elrond -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

But do we know for certain that Elrond and Arvedui met?

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund (Post 594457)
Hm, vzv, Nerwen, using Sauron or Gandalf is illegal in this thread. :p See first post.)

It's not illegal, Nilp, just not recommended. That's why I asked if my way was too lazy– but Lommy's had Gandalf in it anyway. And you'll see that I had a Plan B that didn't use either of them.

:p yourself.

Andsigil 04-23-2009 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 594462)
But do we know for certain that Elrond and Arvedui met?

I checked before posting this and, while it's not implausible, I couldn't find any evidence that they had actually met. Same with Arvedui and Cirdan.

Still open. :)

Ibrîniðilpathânezel 04-23-2009 06:23 PM

Would

Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> Witch King -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

work? Not that I want to take the thread... my brain is a tad cooked when it comes to inspiration, at the moment. :)

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-23-2009 11:16 PM

I did put in Aranarth there. *pouts* Or is it too long with him in there? :confused:

Andsigil 04-24-2009 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrîniðilpathânezel (Post 594523)
Would

Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> Witch King -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

work? Not that I want to take the thread... my brain is a tad cooked when it comes to inspiration, at the moment. :)

That's the path I had! Your turn.

Was that one difficult? I had a devil of a time thinking that one up.

Ibrîniðilpathânezel 04-24-2009 08:21 AM

Well, as I said, my brain's a tad cooked, so the best I came up with is:

Ulmo -> Sam

Who are rather opposite types, given Sam's fear of water. When I thought of the more convoluted way, I realized there's a very short way as well. Drat.

Nerwen 04-24-2009 08:38 AM

Ulmo– Ossë– Círdan– Sam?

Ibrîniðilpathânezel 04-24-2009 06:01 PM

That's more or less the easy route. Ulmo -> Cirdan -> Sam (since we know that Ulmo spoke directly to Cirdan when he asked him to remain in ME, and Cirdan remained "deep in the counsels" of Ulmo and Osse). My original thought was a bit less direct, though you may certainly take the thread if you like. :)

Nerwen 04-24-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrîniðilpathânezel (Post 594599)
That's more or less the easy route. Ulmo -> Cirdan -> Sam (since we know that Ulmo spoke directly to Cirdan when he asked him to remain in ME, and Cirdan remained "deep in the counsels" of Ulmo and Osse). My original thought was a bit less direct, though you may certainly take the thread if you like. :)

Ah. I didn't have the book with me, and I couldn't remember if Ulmo ever spoke to Círdan in person, so I threw in Ossë to be on the safe side.

Out of curiosity, was the other route anything like Ulmo– Tuor– Eärendil– Elrond– Sam?

Anyway, how about

Finduilas of Nargothrond => Finduilas of Dol Amroth?

Ibrîniðilpathânezel 04-24-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 594604)
Ah. I didn't have the book with me, and I could remember if Ulmo ever spoke to Círdan in person, so I threw in Ossë to be on the safe side.

Out of curiosity, was the other route anything like Ulmo– Tuor– Eärendil– Elrond– Sam?[/B]

Yep. There was also a possibility of Ulmo > Tuor > Glorfindel > Sam, but that's supposing Tuor and Glorfindel met, outside of Glorfindel saving Tuor and family when he killed the Balrog. And supposing Tolkien really had made up his mind about the two Glorfindels being the same person.

skip spence 04-25-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 594604)

Anyway, how about

Finduilas of Nargothrond => Finduilas of Dol Amroth?

Finduilas of Nargothrond => Galadriel => Aragorn => Denethor => Finduilas of Dol Amroth

You could insert Orodreth ahead of Galadriel but Finduilas and Galadriel must have known each other well from Nargothrond.

Nerwen 04-25-2009 01:23 AM

I'll give it to you, Skip... but see if you can make the path shorter. (Hint: one person can replace Aragorn and Denethor).

skip spence 04-25-2009 01:43 AM

Imrahil? He met Galadriel I suppose...

Alright, let's see then Yavanna -> Bert the Troll

(And there's no indication that Gandalf/Olorin ever met Yavanna)

Nerwen 04-25-2009 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skip spence (Post 594616)
Imrahil? He met Galadriel I suppose...

Possibly; I was thinking of someone more pivotal to the story than Imrahil, and who definitely met Galadriel.

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Originally Posted by skip spence (Post 594616)
, let's see then Yavanna -> Bert the Troll

(And there's no indication that Gandalf/Olorin ever met Yavanna)

Yavanna– Aulë– Saruman– Frodo– Bilbo– Bert?

skip spence 04-25-2009 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 594619)
Possibly, I was thinking of someone more pivotal to the story than Imrahil, and who definitely met Galadriel.

Faramir, then? But I can't think of an instance when he met Galadriel, apart from at the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn...

Edit: It should be Boromir of course! How did I not think of him!?

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 594619)
Yavanna– Aulë– Saruman– Frodo– Bilbo– Bert?

I'll allow that, although I'm not too happy with the Aulë-Saruman connection (sure he was originally a Maia of Aulë, but there's no written evidence they met)

Nerwen 04-25-2009 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by skip spence (Post 594622)
Faramir, then? But I can't think of an instance when he met Galadriel, apart from at the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn...

Edit: It should be Boromir of course! How did I not think of him!?

*shrugs* Because he's too obvious, maybe?

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Originally Posted by skip spence (Post 594622)
I'll allow that, although I'm not too happy with the Aulë-Saruman connection (sure he was originally a Maia of Aulë, but there's no written evidence they met)

Ahem.

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But two only came forward: Curumo [i.e. Saruman], who was chosen by Aulë...
Unfinished Tales, "The Istari".

I think that's good enough, don't you?:)

So, what was your way?

skip spence 04-25-2009 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 594623)
I think that's good enough, don't you?:)

You're right as usual. I bow my head.
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So, what was your way?
Hm. Think I had a Yavanna - Maedros - Elrond connection in mind, as Maedros brought the news of the murder of Finwë to the Valar, with Y present.

The thread is yours!

Andsigil 05-03-2009 01:38 PM

*bump*

Nerwen 05-03-2009 09:21 PM

Sorry, I'll think of something.

Beregond 05-26-2009 11:40 AM

*bumpity bump bump* :)

Nerwen 05-26-2009 04:46 PM

You can take this thread if you like; I'm busy right now.

Andsigil 06-10-2009 04:25 AM

Anyone up for bringing this game back?

Andsigil 07-08-2009 03:26 PM

*bump*

Hello?

Nerwen 08-12-2009 06:00 AM

Sure. You want to go first?

Andsigil 08-14-2009 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 606379)
Sure. You want to go first?

Okay, how about:

Eöl -> Shagrat


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