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Hookbill the Goomba 04-11-2006 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife
(Hookbill, since you never opposed the idea, I'm assuming you're okay with this.)

It’s very much your own choice on how the betting system goes.


Well, it looks like Medel Zoom is the first to pass the Challenge of the Troll, and very well done it was also. Monty Python is a sure vote winner! ;)
Valier, I need to know which direction Medel-Zoom will be taking now.

[Edit] Okay, so Minas Taxi is heading West. Good, good.
Orth Tank going southwest. Sleepy, that was an interesting series of events. :D

Hookbill the Goomba 04-11-2006 08:30 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...mba/Dwarfy.jpg The Facts so far.


So, lets look at it so far. What is the status of our Vehicles in the Challenge?

Mount Zoom = Not Done.

Bag Endless-fuel = Not Done.

Orth-Tank = Done. Troll Eaten by Evil Hamsters. (Going South West)

Barad-Dash = Done. Troll squished by fake eye. (Going South West)

Medul-zoom = Done. Troll killed by Evil Beast in rabbit form. (South West)

Minas Mor-go = Done. Troll Killed by Tra-la-lally Elves.

Minas Taxi = Done. Troll turned to stone. (Going West)

As soon as everyone is done, I'll open the voting. Watch this space, folks!

The Saucepan Man 04-11-2006 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hookbill
Bag Endless-fuel = Done. Troll blinded by Gandalf the Grey Uncloaked. (Need Direction)

Actually, we're not done. Gandalf uncloaking in front of the Troll occured only (and reluctantly) in Frodo's vivid imagination. Caranlondien will hopefully be posting the second instalment of our challenge resolution, together with our proposed direction, later today.

Hookbill the Goomba 04-11-2006 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man
Actually, we're not done. Gandalf uncloaking in front of the Troll occured only (and reluctantly) in Frodo's vivid imagination. Caranlondien will hopefully be posting the second instalment of our challenge resolution, together with our proposed direction, later today.

Ah, yes. I just re-read it and realised my mistake. I'll make the change.

Valier 04-11-2006 09:53 AM

I have added our direction!:)

Hookbill the Goomba 04-11-2006 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valier
I have added our direction!:)

Good stuff! :smokin:

Morsul the Dark 04-11-2006 11:51 AM

Ok Ive completed the challenge and included my direction, and changed my avatar to what I am going to pretend Gothmog looks like
he a man who is aged to a point that he should be dead but through the dark powers of sauron is somehow still alive

Hookbill the Goomba 04-11-2006 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark
he a man who is aged to a point that he should be dead but through the dark powers of sauron is somehow still alive

And by the looks of your avatar, Gothmog isn't too happy about this fact. ;)

Good post, by the way, utilising the fake Eye. Maybe I should edit the icon for Barad Dash now... nah... :p

Alcarillo 04-11-2006 02:01 PM

The troll has been slain! And Minas Mor-go is probably headed west, unless Ringwraith #4 has a better idea.

And Gurthang, sorry if you were already writing the post where the troll is killed. I just couldn't resist tra-la-la-laing elves! And I think I've made you seem like the OCD ringwraith.

Hookbill the Goomba 04-11-2006 02:20 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...mba/Dwarfy.jpg Just the basic facts, can you show me where it hurts?


Just an update...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...oomba/Zoom.jpg Mount Zoom = Done. Troll chases cash

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ndlessfule.jpg Bag Endless-fuel = Done. Toll paid by Troll... Sort of. (Going South West)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Orth-tank.jpgOrth-Tank = Done. Troll Eaten by Evil Hamsters. (Going South West)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...arrad-dash.jpg Barad-Dash = Done. Troll squished by fake eye. (Going South West)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Medelzoom.jpg Medul-zoom = Done. Troll killed by Evil Beast in rabbit form. (Going South West)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inasMor-go.jpg Minas Mor-go = Done. Troll Killed by Tra-la-lally Elves. (Going West)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Minastaxi.jpg Minas Taxi = Done. Troll turned to stone. (Going West)

As soon as everyone is done, I'll open the voting. Watch this space, folks!

Roa_Aoife 04-11-2006 02:34 PM

Don't Forget....!
 
Just a reminder, betting closes as soon as voting starts, so get those bets in now!

Hookbill the Goomba 04-11-2006 02:51 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...oomba/Zoom.jpg Mount Zoom! You have just over two hours to get past the Troll! I'm giving you an hour extension, because of time difference and all that. (Plus I'm going to sleep then :p)

Remember folks, as soon as Zoom is past the Troll, voting can begin. Players, PM your votes to me. Everyone else, post them here. I've decided to just half the none-player voted at the end, by the way. Otherwise it may just get too complex.

Glirdan 04-11-2006 03:29 PM

Sorry!! I have to post it. I've been at school so please forgive me. I'll go post it right now.

Roa_Aoife 04-11-2006 05:56 PM

Betting closed
 
Okay, Mount Zoom is past the Troll, so voting begins and betting closes for the first challenge. Remember: You can still bet on the over all winner of the race up until the last challenge. Betting for the next challenge will begin once it has been posted.


My vote for Challenge One is ++Orth-Tank!

Celuien 04-11-2006 06:11 PM

Vote for Challenge One
 
A difficult choice!

++ MINAS TAXI

Non-players can vote, yes?

Alcarillo 04-11-2006 06:17 PM

I assume players can't vote for themselves, right Hookbill?

Formendacil 04-11-2006 06:53 PM

Players can't vote for themselves- check.

Players are to vote by PM- check.

Players each have individual votes (teams don't vote as one)- check.

I've just got to PM the Goomba, and I'm done.

P.S.

This is fun!

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-11-2006 09:40 PM

Erm, Hookbill.
 
I'd probably have to mod the next game (which would be a First Age-based one--think Amon Hotrûdh :D) since I've been pretty useless so far here.

I love the icons! How do I equal that?!

EDIT: I swear everlasting vengeance upon Formendaga the Hiiri, unless someone can tell me what 'hiiri' means, or spawn intervenes. ;)

Naria 04-11-2006 11:52 PM

Vote for Challenge One

++Medul Zoom

Awesome psycho rabbit!! :D

Hookbill the Goomba 04-12-2006 01:39 AM

Wow, my inbox has never been so full! :D

Welcome back to the land of the Dead, Nilp. This is going to be a long game, so you can still help out... ... please! :(

Players can vote for any other apart from themselves.
Players PM votes to me.
Non-players vote here!

I personally am casting my vote for ++ Bag-Endless-fuel. So far it has proved very amusing to read.

Morsul the Dark 04-12-2006 07:47 AM

check out this old post :D

Hookbill the Goomba 04-12-2006 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Speaking of Gil-gallad, where has he got to?

Anyway... The following Players still need to send votes to me! You have (calculates) 5 hours left. Any votes cast after that will be discounted. You have been warned! :eek:

Glirdan
Gil-Gallad
Farael

Meneltarmacil 04-12-2006 02:19 PM

I'll be leaving tomorrow; don't be concerned that I'm not here. I'll probably be posting again around Sunday afternoon or so.

Hookbill the Goomba 04-12-2006 03:03 PM

1 Attachment(s)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...mba/Dwarfy.jpg BONG!

Voting closed!

So, lets look at the results.

MOUNT ZOOM = 1 Vote

Bag-Endless-fuel = 4 Votes

Orth-Tank = 2 Votes

Barad-Dash = 1 Vote

Medel-zoom = 2 Votes

Minas Mor-go = 3 Votes

Minas Taxi = 3 Votes

So the Winner with 4 votes, is Bag Endless-fuel! Look at it go!

Hookbill the Goomba 04-12-2006 03:13 PM

Locations
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...oomba/Zoom.jpg MOUNT ZOOM
= Foot of Grey Mountains

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ndlessfule.jpg Bag-Endless-fuel
= Near River Anduin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Orth-tank.jpg Orth-Tank
= Mirkwood eves

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...arrad-dash.jpg Barad-Dash
= Mirkwood eves

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Medelzoom.jpg Medel-zoom
= Mirkwood eves

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inasMor-go.jpg Minas Mor-go
= Near Forest River

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Minastaxi.jpg Minas Taxi
= Foot of Grey Mountains

Valier 04-12-2006 03:51 PM

uuummm when will the next challenge be? Sorry I have not got the deadlines straight yet for my time zone.:D

Hookbill the Goomba 04-12-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valier
uuummm when will the next challenge be? Sorry I have not got the deadlines straight yet for my time zone.:D

Coming right up. I just had a few things to sort out at home life.

Roa_Aoife 04-12-2006 05:51 PM

Betting for challenge 2 is open....
 
Just tell me your bets here and how many points your betting. Betting closes just before voting begins, so get those bets in now.

As a reminder, here's how the side challenge betting works- you lay down a certain ammount of points. If you win, you get the points back with the odds on them. If you lose, you lose the points with the odds in effect. (If you bet 10 points on 6-1 odds, you'll win or lose 60 points.) I'm actually about to rework the odds, so I'll be back with that soon.

Glirdan 04-12-2006 05:55 PM

Hookbill, please take into account that there are a few Players (coughMEcough) that have school that takes up 6 hours of our time, plus extra-curricular activities plus homework to do. That's why I could not get my vote in. I would have cast it, but I just didn't have the time. This was the first time I was able to get onto a computer all day. I'll try and send it earlier next time if possible.

Roa_Aoife 04-12-2006 06:14 PM

Here are the adjusted odds:
  • Mount Zoom
    14 - 1
  • Bag-Endless-Feul
    3 - 1
  • Orth-Tank
    7 - 1
  • Barad-Dash
    14 - 1
  • Medel-Zoom
    7 - 1
  • Minas Mor-go
    5 - 1
  • Minas Taxi
    5 - 1

THE Ka 04-12-2006 07:41 PM

viva mal du siecle!
 
Ah, betting. 'Tis most dandy a sport!

Since I was consumed in a mass of Jacques Brel and A Rebours and missed the first betting round, I plan to establish my final last check on the List of Dandy Must-do's Before Death. With the sensible money values Oscar lends as well...

So then...
Seven on Orth-Tank, my good people!

Adieu and let the race continue!

~ Aesthete

Aiwendil 04-12-2006 08:21 PM

Quote:

As a reminder, here's how the side challenge betting works- you lay down a certain ammount of points. If you win, you get the points back with the odds on them. If you lose, you lose the points with the odds in effect. (If you bet 10 points on 6-1 odds, you'll win or lose 60 points.) I'm actually about to rework the odds, so I'll be back with that soon.
I hate to be too querulous (actually, no I don't, I just pretend to), but wouldn't it make more sense if a loss resulted in the loss only of the original, unadjusted point value? That's the way it works in horse racing. Under the stated system, betting for a long shot is extraordinarily unwise, even if you believe the odds to be significantly better than given. E.g. the average net gain on a 6:1 shot at 10 points would be -50 points!

Roa_Aoife 04-12-2006 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aiwendil
I hate to be too querulous (actually, no I don't, I just pretend to), but wouldn't it make more sense if a loss resulted in the loss only of the original, unadjusted point value? That's the way it works in horse racing. Under the stated system, betting for a long shot is extraordinarily unwise, even if you believe the odds to be significantly better than given. E.g. the average net gain on a 6:1 shot at 10 points would be -300 points!


Hm, I see your point. Alright then, if you lose, you just lose the points you bet, not more.

Alcarillo 04-12-2006 09:11 PM

Might I suggest a more Tolkienian name than points?

I would bet with castar, a sort of Gondorian coin. They're mentioned briefly in Peoples of Middle-earth, on page 45.

Can players bet? Or is that akin to proffesional sports coaches betting?

Roa_Aoife 04-12-2006 09:20 PM

Quote:

I would bet with castar, a sort of Gondorian coin. They're mentioned briefly in Peoples of Middle-earth, on page 45.
You can bet with banana peels if you want.

Quote:

Can players bet? Or is that akin to proffesional sports coaches betting?
Given that you aren't allowed to vote for yourselves, it seems fairly unlikely that you would be able to fix the race. (I'm not accepting lays- that is, bets that a certain team will lose, and I trust that you're actually trying to win.) After all, we can vote for the people we bet on, you can do the same. Unless you bet on yourself, in which case, never mind.

Roa_Aoife 04-12-2006 09:25 PM

And just to remind everyone, betting on challenges and betting on the over all outcome are two seperate things. You can bet on different teams for each. The over all race doesn't have any actually betting- that is you don't stand to lose anything, but if you win, Hookbill promised to rep you.

Hookbill the Goomba 04-13-2006 03:47 AM

Ah!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife
And just to remind everyone, betting on challenges and betting on the over all outcome are two seperate things. You can bet on different teams for each. The over all race doesn't have any actually betting- that is you don't stand to lose anything, but if you win, Hookbill promised to rep you.

Hay, I was referring to anyone that bet on someone winning the whole Race! :o

But, I'll see what I can do.

Anyway.

The first challenge was a learning experience, so after Glirdan’s comments (and bruises to my head) I'll extend the time frame. This time there is no actual limit on the posting for the second challenge, but I'd like them all done by tomorrow ish.

The voting will be begin, as usual, when the final vehicle has passed the challenge. I'll close it the following morning (probably). We'll see what happens.

Roa_Aoife 04-13-2006 07:28 AM

Quote:

Hay, I was referring to anyone that bet on someone winning the whole Race!
So was I.....

I'll figure out another reward for the side challenge winners. The point was that there's nothing really to bet on the race. Everyone just picks who they think will win the RACE, and you rep the ones that are right.

Hookbill the Goomba 04-13-2006 02:07 PM

Good post, Spawn! I like the little joke about Faramir's dream! :D
But can I make a sugestion?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawn
She is the only one who has saved all the volumes of Reader's Digest since Mid-3rd Age.

How about the Ranger's Digest?

Okay, folks. Looks like Challenge 2: Rats in the Pipes is well on the way!
I'm not going to put a strict time limit on this, but I'd ask that everyone be past the Rat problem by the end of tomorrow. Then voting will open. I'll probably close voting on Sunday morning.

Elu Ancalime 04-13-2006 08:00 PM

If I understand this right...
 
So...4 points on Medel-zoom.
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