ummmm... I'm not so good at this... Boromir?
hope I'm wrong, I can't come up with a riddle... wonder why I even replied to this? *mumbles to herself*... [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

What on Mordor did just happen? I was supposed to reply to the riddle-thingie, and now this came up with a whole new thread... sorry, I don't know how to use this thing... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Sorry, ignore me... I didn't see those 2, 3 and 4-pages... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] whoops...

Gertauriel, welcome to the Downs!! Nice to see a fellow Finn! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Post well (it's quite natural to get confused in the beginning, PM me if you have any questions) and enjoy being dead - I have loved it! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
And wow, my little riddle thread has grown to contain 4 pages! Thanks to all who have posted.

[ April 13, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

Just to throw in another two cents, see that little hammer and chisel up by the time and date of your post? That's the EDIT function, it lets you delete or edit your posts!

Ack, I visit this thread out of curiosity and discover it has been meandering in obscurity because of my neglect! I will edit in a new riddle as soon as I create it...I promise!

~ Nuranar

EDIT: Easter weekends aren't the best for posting riddles... *blushes*

In a secret place was my advent;
Shadowed was my path.
To another hiding place, then
Stone to stone returneth.
Now servant of the light:
Kindler of the flame;
Fighting the fire,
From shadow returning.

[ April 21, 2003: Message edited by: Nuranar ]

The Moria balrog?

Gandalf the Grey (who fights balrog and dies and returns as...) Gandalf the White??

No and no.

But you're looking in the right area, although not exactly in the right direction. I know that doesn't make sense, but...this is a riddle, after all. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Is it Earendil?

He was born in Gondolin, a secret place, and escaped its destruction to be brought up in the haven at the mouth of Sirion. Following his successful voyage to Valinor, he bore the light of the Simaril on his brow and, following the War of Wrath, guarded the door of the night to prevent Morgoth, the shadow, from returning from the Void.

Well, it sort of works. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

No, but certain aspects are right on.

Think about the "Stone to stone returneth" line. What do you think of? That aspect should be very simple...

Durin the Deathless?

Nope...sorry, that's not what I meant by "stone." *blushes*

It’s probably a stupid answer, but is it Ossë

This thread is sinking so *bumb*
And my guess this time will be the Silmaril which Beren and Luthien took from Morgoth's crown; that would be the stone which then returned to another "stone" ie. Menegroth. IMO the other clues fit quite nicely too. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Nope, nope, nope!

Good guess, though, Annunfuiniel. That's not quite what I had in mind for "stone to stone returneth," though; think more literally.

Hint: Not all lines in the riddle pertain directly to the answer itself - they lead to one another. Pay attention to the punctuation.

Ok then, how about Melkor aka Morgoth Bauglir?

"In a secret place was my advent;
Shadowed was my path." - that part is quite obvious
"To another hiding place," - Utumno?
"then
Stone to stone returneth." - Utumno was a stone construction which then was destroyed by the Valar
"Now servant of the light:
Kindler of the flame;" - that could Ëarendil...
"Fighting the fire,
From shadow returning." - ...who fought against Melkor('s force) in the War of Wrath

Well, how's that? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Narsil

In a secret place was my advent;
Shadowed was my path.

The full history of the forging is unknown - somewhere in the Dwarven city of Nogrod. When Elendil fell, fighting Shadow, it's flame was extinguished

To another hiding place, then

to Rivendell

Stone to stone returneth.

Forged from metal ores, it returns to Elessar, the Elfstone.

Now servant of the light:
Kindler of the flame;
Fighting the fire,
From shadow returning.

Narsil returns to the forger's fire, returning as Andúril, The Flame of the West, its light rekindled.

Good guesses, people! Ooh, Pio, you're really close in essence. You've got nearly everything right in meaning...just think ultra-literal in the "stone to stone" part.

Is this Anor, the Sun? And coincidentally, the Flame of Anor?

If so, I'll produce my tortuous reasonings for this answer! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] LOL

Ah, think I've got it! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Is it Glamdring? Forged in a secret place, Gondolin, then turned up in the secret cache of William Huggins and co. Found by Gandalf, Bilbo and the Dwarves when "stone to stone returneth", ie when the Trolls were caught by the sunrise and (re)turned to stone.

The next parts of the riddle suggest Glamdring, since it was wielded by Gandalf. Possibly "Fighting the fire from shadow returning" refers to his battle with the Balrog.

And, if it's not Glamdring, it must be Sting. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Yes indeedy, it is Glamdring! "Kindler of the flame" referred not to the answer, but to "the light" in the previous line. Glamdring served "the light," the "kindler of the flame" (bearing the Ring of Fire). And "Fighting the fire, from shadow returning" means exactly as you guessed.

Congratulations, Saucepan! I await your riddle with great anticipation. Now if I could solve your words in words, we'd be even...

Yippee ... Thanks, Nuranar ...

... Oh, heck. I'm pants at riddles. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

I'll edit one in when I've had a think. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Edit: OK, it's not great, but it'll do:

Enemies of Gondor
Decline, so they say
To meet with those from Rohan
Who came to save the day.

[ April 30, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

I'm kind of hazy on exactly what is to be guessed. Are you looking for the "enemies of Gondor"?

One line gives a straightforward clue to the answer, the other three lines make up a cryptic clue, but I won't tell you which is which, since that would make it too easy, and, like you Nuranar, I have a reputation to live up to now. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Is it King Elessar who "came to save the day"?
Ok, you'll just love this wild-eyed explanation of how I came up with that answer... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

E -from the Enemies
LESS -well, Decline...
AR -Rohan, an (A)utonomous (R)epublic

*Gets looks like: [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] , and dashes off*

[img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Now that really is obscure Annunfuiniel. And I'm afraid it's not the correct answer. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

The men and orcs on the field of pellanor ran from the face of eomer king of rohan.

I think that's right!? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

Is it the Druedain?

Nope and nope.

Hint: Decline, so they say means a word that sounds like a word meaning decline ...

Ok, referring to my previous answer: Look what all this partying has done to my brains!!! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Now, my second attempt (actually this was the first answer that came to my mind...before the insanity prevailed): The Wainriders?
>Enemies of Gondor
>decline ~ wane ~ wain
>"meet with those from Rohan"=Riders (of Rohan)
>"who came to save the day"=abovementioned Rohirrim

There, does that sound any better? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
~Annun

That sounds a lot better, Annun. In fact, it sounds so much better that it's correct. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

There now. Easy, wasn't it? [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Sorry it took so long to get back to you...
Easy? That surely isn't the first word I would use to describe your riddles, dear Saucepan. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Anyway, here's the next (attempt on a) riddle:

Creature of the Shadow
Once Beauty Inside
Great Spirit Ruled by Another
And Both of Them Could Fly!

Er...ok, there it is. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] Is that really the best I can do?! Maybe if I...
*bangs head to the table for a couple of minutes*
Sorry, that didn't help either - you'll just have to go with what there is on offer.

Is it Thuringwethil?

Creature of the Shadow: Her name means 'Woman of the secret shadow'.

Once Beauty Inside: Luthien uses her body as a cloak.

Great Spirit Ruled by Another: She served Sauron.

And Both of Them Could Fly! Thuringwethil could fly and I think, at that time at least, so could Sauron.

Spot on and perfect reasoning! So it's your turn again, Saucy. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Oops! Forgot about this one. Oh well, better late than never:

An old wizard finds himself out of place,
The end of the route is lost without trace.
In confusion, Gibbs, a Goblin, tries poetry,
And finds his inspiration in entomology.

[ May 19, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Any takers? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

*blushes* I had to look up entomology in the dictionary.....but, is it Gandalf talking to the moth on top of the pinnacle of Orthanc?

And if it's not Gandalf, then maybe Radagast?

Nope. Neither of those. The clue is a cryptic one. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]