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Hello everyone, I'm finally here. It looks like as of now we have two reps...Lommy and Rune. I think I'll be voting for someone who already has one vote since I'd like to see a third rep to keep the game balanced. Probably Ilya or Kath since Nerwen requested not to be a rep toDay.
I've noticed Gil has sort of returned...which is odd. I can understand missing a Day or so due to RL, but he's missed practically the entire game. Especially since we have 48 hour Days, I can't a good reason for that...even with RL commitments, a player should be able to post a couple times per Day, or at least state the absence in the admin thread. And btw, after those couple posts, is he coming back? How are we to know? |
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++Kath for rep
I agree with much that she has said toDay, while Ilya I can't get a good enough read on as she didn't post much at all toDay. It's been a long day and I'm really tired. I might come back and post later tonight, but don't count on it. Again, my participation will be limited tomorrow, but I promise to be around to make at least some posts. |
I managed to get here quickly before leaving this horrible wet and cold country. It seems the reps are Lommy, Rune and Kath. Is that right? If yes, I'm very content because they all are people I think are innocent (though one of them hates me, alas :() and I trust their judgement.
Hmmm. Yeah, I'd better be going now so I won't be late, I still have a few things to do before I leave. Have a nice rest of the Day, and if you don't get the wolf then have a nice next Day as well. :) |
Well, I really have very little to say. I could go and analyse someone, but that feels a bit pointless since Brinn already provided us with the quotes that matter. Of course, there is stuff to be learnt from other posts too. Also, I'm rather convinced Gwath is the last wolf, so I don't even feel like doing research - why try to find out something you know already? I know an attitude like this is terribly unhealthy, so I will try to look at someone else's posts later toDay.
I can sympathise with Gwath's frustration at the suspicions directed to him, but italso looks a bit wolvish. I mean, at least I'm more bothered by inconcrete accusations against myself when I'm a wolf (or a gifted, or an ordo on a Day the village can'yt afford to lose an innocent). Quote:
I have no idea what to make of Gil's sudden reappearance... well, let's hope he reads through the thread (or at least some of it, poor one :D) and makes some interesting contributions. He's a smart guy when he bothers to actually think about stuff and post. |
Important Notice re Gil-galad's return.
Since obviously not everyone will wish to speak openly about this for tactical/ in-game reasons If anyone has strong feelings about this issue could you PM the moddesses ASAP?
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We should probably start talking about who to lynch, I know that all the representatives have voiced suspicion about Gwath, but I think we should look into other options as well.
Anyways I am working on my paper again today, but I will dedicate some hours to analysing later today. Until then I will not be overly active unless something special happens. . . |
Last post over SIX HOURS ago? Goodness this game is quiet... I will go and analyse someone soon just to create some discussion...
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So will I. . . I am taking my brake now.
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I have chosen to look at posts from the time after we lynched the two wolfs.
Ilya: Has done very little posting of substans since then, but made sure to come back and vote. I am not going to go over her posts where she just states who has voted or where she just says hello. Quote:
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I have chosen to look at posts from the time after we lynched the two wolfs.
Ilya: Has done very little posting of substans since then, but made sure to come back and vote. I am not going to go over her posts where she just states who has voted or where she just says hello. Quote:
Then in post 1565 she votes for Brinn and then does almost nothing until she votes for me and yet again dissapears. So she is quite the submarine, the very thing that made me suspect her in the first place, but for some reason she seems rather genuin. . . I really wish that she would contribute more as that would make me feel better about not suspecting her. |
I see that somethig went wrong when I typed in that post. . . Is it OK if I delete the first?
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I just can't decide who to look at. Everybody else but Gwath just looks so innocent. :rolleyes: If we lynch Gwath and he turns out to be innocent, I'm going to be seriously baffled... Hmmm... I'm gonna have yet another look at Brinn's quotes.
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Right now I feel quite good about most people in this village, but I could easily imagine most of you guys as really smart wolves. anyways at the moment I am looking at Greenie's posts, so far I have not found something major. |
Alright. If the wolf is not Gwath, it's Brinn who's maintaining her calm admirably and otherwise playing brilliantly too.
If it's someone else, the wolves have made rather bold bluffs, as I believe I've found "factual" "evidence" pointing at the others' innocence. |
++Gwath
I won't be able to suspect anyone else seriously before he's dead. With a high probability (or it seems so to me right now) I won't even have to. |
Would you belive that my previous post was my post nr. 3000 ! (how uneventful)
I have looked over Greenie's posts and even thought she has said quite alot compared to others, she is hard to analyse. Her suspicions seems to be about the tone that people have in their posts, at least that was what she refered to in her example to why she suspected Sally. It actually suprised me because I did not see anything wrong with Sally's post, it could be a wolf trying to pull the strings and get Sally lynched without getting too involved. . . Nerwen was doing the dirty work and by giving her a bit of suport Greenie could hope to turn the village against Sally without leaving too much of a trail. I know that this case is not air-tight especially because she actually uses quotes from known wolves in her case against Sally, but I am just trying to get the ball rolling. She also suspects Gwath, but only because she is not sure about him and she says something of the same sort about Ilya. If you are a wolf it would be quite smart to have one major suspect (Sally), two that you are unsure about (Ilya and Gwath) and feel good about the rest. That way you would limit the amount of foes you get in the village and if you post relatively substancial posts, you wont get accused of being a U-boat. Anyways all this being said I do not find her that wolf-like. . . EDIT: Cross Posted With Lommy |
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The problem is for me that I don't get anywhere just by throwing around random theories, I need people to comment on them in order for my opinion to be formed properly. Anyways it seems Gwath's death is just around the corner as Kath said she would most likely vote for him and since he was also on my list of lynch candidates. As I said I would have loved to discuss other options, but since no one has ingaged in dialog I will probably end up voting for him. Brinn is of course still an option, but for some reason I have not focused that much on her of late. Then there is Lommy and Greenie, but to be honest I have not convinced my self of their guilt. . .this is where I really could have used some dialog. Ilya and Nerwen put me in office and I have not seen anything really wolfish from them in a while, although maybe one ought to have looked at what Sally said about Nerwen before she got lynched. I will vote soon |
Hi I am here! Sorry about that. I got on the 'Downs intending to post, made it as far as the Scarburg thread and then my father arrived home with numerous injuries (entirely his own fault - nothing life threatening) and had to be taken care of. Now it is nearly time for me to go so what I will do is this. On my skim through the thread I saw that Gwath had replied to those comments I made so I will go and look at that and any other of his posts toDay. I will then also go and look at Brinn because I actually agree with Lommy that if Gwath is not a wolf then Brinn does seem likely. I didn't think this until my skim-through just now when something popped out at me. I'll reread and see if it still seems odd.
So, expect a couple of posts from me in the next half an hour or so and then a vote. |
Brilliant!
I might just stick around to read those posts before I vote. |
OK I cannot wait around any longer, my eyes are heavy and I am starting to feel sick from looking at this screen.
I am going to vote for Gwath because of what I said in post 1582, I am just afraid that he might be too quiet to be a wolf. . . but then again The Ka did not say much either. The reason I do not vote for Brinn now is because I am giving her the benefit of doubt, I always suspect her and it might very well just be because of her style. . . I just realised that Gwath is the right kill to make, even if he is not a wolf he is in the way of a more open debate. With him gone there will be no obvious lynch candidate, even though Brinn is finaly getting some atention. ++Gwath |
Brinn (toDay):
1 - does say she's not going to be around much which immediately makes me want to give her the benefit of the doubt toDay, if only because it's really bad manners to attack someone when they have no chance of defending themselves. Because I too am suspicious of Gwath I see where her comments are coming from. But, of course, having seen the way things were looking for him yesterDay a wolf could easily jump on that likely bandwagon. 2 - wants a third Rep for balance. Actually a very good idea in case we do end up with the wolf and an innocent as Reps. Pokes at the Gil thing. 3 - votes me, putting me in power. Now, with Lommy and her 'yeah go for Gwath' it makes me think her innocent because that's just so overtly bloodthirsty I don't think she's a wolf, Brinn's agreement is much more understated and somehow therefore more suspicious. Gwath (toDay): 1 - sort of a defense, saying that he's only suspected because everyone suspects him. Don't you love circular reasoning? :rolleyes: But seriously I can see what he means - except that everyone has different reasons for suspecting him and so it isn't really a kind of mass hysteria. His defense to Brinn's question about why he thought there would be a toMorrow is interesting. 'I didn't know' he says, yet if you read the post Brinn quotes there are no 'if there's a toMorrow' ideas. It is too sure. 2 - defends-ish Lommy, good point. Says he won't vote for Greenie as he's suspicious of her and will look at her later. Has been saying he'll look at people later a fair bit, as I recall the last time I looked through his posts he hadn't done many of the 'look-ats' he said he would. He does have limited time though. 3 - expresses general annoyance but with incorrect complaints. Says there are only general feelings against him, from me at least that's not the case. Says there are no questions for him to answer. Again, from me and definitely Brinn there were. 4 - I very much like that he replied to the questions I put to him. Some of the replies make me think him less suspicious - his one about Boro for example, because upon consulting my memory he is correct. What I don't like is the way he causally drops known innocents into the mix, saying that phantom had the opposite opinion about Nog. It isn't necessary. The Day 1 stuff - I mean the thing is that basically all the Reps except for Nog and Legate basically said he was under the radar completely and that they had no opinion on him. Nog had him down as 'could be a wolf, could not be' - and had Shasta and phantom down with the same comment. Says Legate has suddenly become very suspicious (this is Nog not Gwath) but then goes and vote Gwath who only has a 'maybe/maybe not' comment rather than a reason like morm did. So far I as I can see not one of the other Reps, apart from Legate for a little while, even considered voting Gwath - which makes Nog's a very safe wolf on wolf vote if that's the case. 5 - had said that he might vote Lommy or Brinn. Then said he'd thought of voting Lommy or Rune. Ends up voting Nerwen. I'm intrigued about where the Nerwen vote came from considering he hadn't even mentioned her until then. Aaand that's it. And I'm still unsure. I suspect both Gwath and Brinn but to differing degrees. The relationship Gwath had with Nog really does make me suspicious of him. I do have more 'evidence' for thinking Gwath a wolf than I do Brinn. I also don't really want to vote until either/both of them have a chance to defend themselves but nor can I hold off on my vote when I'm already running behind schedule. I'll think for a few minutes and then I'll have to make a decision. Oh and to answer Nerwen - no, I understood what you were trying to do with sally, to make her talk. I think the problem was that everything you said to her was tinged with 'look I know you're a wolf, let's see how you react to that' rather than 'I'm a bit suspicious of you, can you give me a good defense'. I'm not saying that you did that deliberately, merely that it came across that way. Even reading it through when it wasn't directed at me I found it quite aggressive. As regards Gil - I say leave him be. If he is the last wolf ... well, then the game's been a sham to be honest. |
Brilliant post Kath, you make some exelent points about both Brinn and Gwath and I am very sorry that I did not wait a bit longer before voting.
This is the kind of posting I have been wanting to see all day, if everybody made just a single contribution like this then I think we would really get somewhere. |
I have to go to bed so:
++GWATH He is my top suspect, he has been for two Days, to suddenly change now would be going against my own principles. I don't like to vote when I've thought up new questions and he hasn't had a chance to answer them but I just can't wait any more. |
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On another note, I'm pulling a Legate 180 and having serious second thoughts about Gwath. He seems like such an easy target and I have a bad feeling that toDay is going to be a repeat of yesterDay. YesterDay, Sally was the prime suspect and no matter how much she defended herself, no one's mind could be changed. And then Gwath was chosen as a target practically yesterDay so that he has no opportunity to even defend himself toDay. It was like, "If Sally's not the wolf than he must be." There was even the consideration for a double lynch, which would've been a bad idea as I'm never fond of double lynches unless it is between two known wolves. What bothers me more is that few seem to care to do research because they are so certain of Gwath's guilt. Yes, I know I'm being a hypocrite for criticising people for laziness as I haven't posted much either, but I'm going through a lot of RL stuff right now (and I understand for others who are too). It just feels that lynching Gwath is too easy and I wouldn't at all be surprised if the wolf was the one pulling the strings. Quote:
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Fea Mith Rikae Diamond18 (ordo) Legate (ordo) McCaber (ordo) Eönwë/Steve (ordo) Aganzir (ordo) Ka (wolf) Shasta (ordo) Mormegil (wolf) Nogrod (wolf) Boromir88 (seer) Sally (ordo) the phantom (ordo) Gwathagor (ordo) Alive: Brinniel Gil-Galad Greenie Ilya Lommy Kath Nerwen Rune |
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Gwath's Death Scene:
And then the still-living wolf snickered, murmuring while nobody could hear:
"Village, be not proud, though some have called thee Mighty and dreadful, for thou are not so; For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow Die not, poor Village, nor yet canst thou kill me. From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be, Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow, And soonest our best men with thee do go, Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery. Thou'art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men, And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell, And poppy'or charms can make us sleep as well And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then? One short sleep past, we wake eternally, And Gwath shall be no more; Gwath, thou shalt die." --- Dear John Donne: I'm so, so sorry. |
Sally Death Post:
In a hole in the ground they shoved their Sally. Yes, a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, rather than a dry, bare, sandy hole with things in it to sit down on and to eat: it was a lynching-hole, and that means discomfort.
It had no perfectly round door like a porthole, painted green, with a shiny yellow brass knob in the exact middle, opening on to a tube-shaped hall like a tunnel: it was a very uncomfortable tunnel with smoke, with grubby walls, and floors dank and moldy, with no polished chairs, and absolutely no pegs for hats and coats – this hole was meant for prisoners, not visitors. The tunnel wound on and on, going fairly but not quite straight into the side of the hill. The Hill, as all the terrified people for many miles round called it, lacked doors opening out of it: there was nowhere for Sally to go but in. No going upstairs for Sally: the tunnel went only deeper and deeper down. As she clawed her way lower, driven onward by the shouts of the village and the rats they were releasing behind her, the tunnel collapsed over her head, burying her tragically. In the hole in the Hill, died an ordo. |
the phantom death post:
By: the phantom
--- The final Werewolf was in a foul mood as it made its way quietly towards Phantom's dwelling. Finally, I can be rid of that loud-mouthed cloaked nuisance! I should have killed him the very first night! The Werewolf hopped the hedge onto Phantom's property, and was surprised to find light streaming out through a wide open front door. The beast paused, fearing some trick (or perhaps a ploy). A merry voice called out from within the house. "Come on in, my furry friend! Have a drink with me!" Senses on full alert, the Werewolf padded warily through the door. Phantom called out again from the room on the Wolf's right side. "Hurry now, or there will be no wine left for you!" The creature entered the room, and there was the phantom, dressed in his usual hooded cloak, lounging at the head of a large dining table. He picked up a bottle and tossed it to the Wolf. "Glad you could join me! Now- a toast, to Boromir! A fine Seer, and a supremely entertaining fellow! Though he was an enemy, it is proper to honor skill and bravery!" Phantom tipped his bottle and took a good swallow. The Werewolf grunted in displeasure and broke the bottle it held in its paws. "You dare to mock me now, when I have come to kill you?!" it growled. "For that, I will make your death long and painful." "You really don't want to attack me," answered Phantom. "I can help you. I have books upon books of strategy and the like. The odds are against you, but with my help you could very well pull out the victory. But in order to gain my help, you would need to agree to certain terms." The Werewolf wrinkled its fuzzy brow in confusion. "Surely you are not serious? You are on the side of the village. Why should you help me?" "I was only on the side of the village because I didn't like the way you and your companions did business," answered Phantom. "Meeting together each night and talking things over, and compromising, and coming to decisions in a democratic manner... It made me sick! I felt ashamed to be a Werewolf!" "What?! A Werewo-" "Yes. Those villages just down the river from us- the ones that got eaten last year. That was me!" Phantom threw back his head and laughed. "You're lying!" howled the Werewolf. "I've been waiting for companions for some time now," explained Phantom. "You four came along and I thought it was time to cause some carnage, but the first night I overheard you talking. You just... weren't my type of Werewolves. Much too... governmental." "But the Seer found you innocent!" yelled the Werewolf. "No, he merely found me not to be a Werewolf that particular night, for indeed, I did not transform that night." "You're just trying to save your skin! Prove you are a Werewolf!" Phantom stood up and pulled back his hood. His teeth, eyes, ears, and mouth all testified that his claim was true. The Werewolf stared in shock. "Now, if you're going to join me, here's what we're going to do," began Phantom. "First, we'll kill-" "No, no- it doesn't work like that," protested the Werewolf. "We must go to the Wolf Civic Board, and get licenced to sponsor a pack. And then we go before the Wolf Council and ask permission to form a pack. And then the Wolf Admissions Panel has to do a background check on you before you can join the pack. Then you must read the Wolf Behavioral Guide and take the exam. And then-" "Enough!" shouted Phantom. "I rescind my offer. I thought perhaps you were different from your fellows. But I see you are just as hideously bureaucratic as the rest of this village." Phantom turned his back and walked out of the room, straight out the back door, and on into the countryside, in search of a place with fewer rules. --- Moddess Note: Werewolf though the phantom may at heart be, he wasn't one of this particular village's werewolves. In this village, he really was on the good guys' side. |
The village wakes.
Each member yawns, stretches, remembers that somebody dies every night. They rush to the town hall. They do a head count. Jaws drop. One of them snickers quietly. --- Dead: Fea Mith Rikae Diamond18 (ordo) Legate (ordo) McCaber (ordo) Eönwë/Steve (ordo) Aganzir (ordo) Ka (wolf) Shasta (ordo) Mormegil (wolf) Nogrod (wolf) Boromir88 (seer) Sally (ordo) the phantom (ordo) Gwathagor (ordo) Alive: Brinniel Gil-Galad Greenie Ilya Lommy Kath Nerwen Rune --- Day begins. |
Somebody is trying to be cunning. . . it could cost you in the end.
Of course maybe you just take great saticfaction in seing us killing each other. Anyways, I will be back when my school is done in some hours, see you then. |
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Well at least we can be sure that the remaining werewolf is NOT Helen Gardner...:p |
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You know, I could really get used to checking in and not finding six new pages... My own fault, I know... |
|I am sorry - I hoped to around more over the weekend but stuff happened.
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Psh. I was talking about like the first three days when I'd have a one hour class, come back and find like four pages of banter.
It really wasn't that bad catching up yesterday. |
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