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Lobelia or Otho?

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I cant find any reference to Lobelias age - I suspect she was younger than Otho. She died in TA 3020 being &quot;over a hundred years old&quot; - If I suspect correctly she had been born between TA 2913-2919.
But I was thinking of Otho, who was born in TA 2912.

You're on Odysseus <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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What type of being could see farthest in M.E., it is reported?

(Not 100% sure of this one but I'll see if anyone's guess matches my answer.)

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Gwaihir, perhaps?

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The passage I'm thinking of says that &quot; ______________ 's sight exceeded even that of the eagles&quot;. Or something like that.

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In SILM its stated that: When varda as with Manwë he could see further than anything else...

So Vala...

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I guess that's correct although not what I was thinking of. In UT it says of Glaurung that his dragon's sight was greater even that that of eagles, and I assumed that eagles cd see farther than elves, so . . . . But I said &quot;beings&quot; so Valar is correct. Ask away Telchar.

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What was the oldest heirloom that Aragorn possesed after his coronation?


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The Ring of Barahir maybe?

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That was what I was thinking of.
But what about the Palantiri? Would you consider them to be heirlooms? and would they be older?

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Anyway - you got it Grond! Ask us.

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Grond?

Grond -- your serve.

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