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The Perky Ent 03-31-2004 07:06 PM

You are of course...incorrect! Incorrect, that is, about being wrong. you are incorrect about being wrong! Your turn!

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-31-2004 09:05 PM

Two quotes, one question.
 
Quote:

"Was there ever any one like [Aragorn]?" [Pippin] said. "Except Gandalf, of course. I think they must be related..."

(LotR V 8 - emphasis mine)
Quote:

...and [Eru] made first the Ainur, the Holy Ones, that were the offspring of his thought...

(The Silmarillion, Ainulindalë - emphasis mine)
What's my question, and the answer? :) Enjoy!

The Perky Ent 03-31-2004 09:28 PM

Um...Nil...although your creative, the way the thread works, as you should know as you made it....is you give to names and show their family ties. AS for your question...is it Saruman or Radagast and um...Manwe? Whatever! maybe you're thinking of the wrong thread, but that's not how it works!

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-31-2004 09:48 PM

Oh, all right.
 
Aragorn -> Gandalf

NightKnight 04-01-2004 05:21 AM

Aragorn -s> Eru -f> Gandalf

(Children of Iluvatar)

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-04-2004 09:31 PM

C'mon! Not that way!
 
Look at the second quote. Only the Ainur are the direct offsprings of Ilúvatar.

Now all you have to do is link Aragorn to an Ainu...

P.S. Sorry for the lengthy disappearance. For the next two months my comings and goings wll be unpredictable.

Fingolfin II 04-04-2004 09:58 PM

Aragorn -f>Eldarion -s>Arwen d->Elrond -s>Elwing -d>Dior -s>Luthien -d> Melian -d>Eru -f> Gandalf

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-04-2004 10:21 PM

Perfect. ;)

Fingolfin II 04-04-2004 10:39 PM

Thanks Nil. Try

Amandil -> Celebrimbor

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-04-2004 10:49 PM

Ok...
 
Amandil -f> Elendil -f> Isildur -f> Valandil -f> Eldacar -f> Arantar -f> Tarcil -f> Tarondor -f> Valandur -f> Elendur -f> Eärendur -f> Amlaith -f> Beleg -f> Mallor -f> Celepharn -f> Celebrindor -f> Malvegil -f> Argeleb I -f> Arveleg I -f> Araphor -f> Argeleb II -f> Arvegil -f> Arveleg II -f> Araval -f> Araphant -f> Arvedui -f> Aranarth -f> Arahael -f> Aranuir -f> Aravir -f> Aragorn I -f> Araglas -f> Arahad I -f> Aragost -f> Aravorn -f> Arahad II -f> Arassuil -f> Arathorn I -f> Argonui -f> Arador -f> Arathorn II -f> Aragorn II -f> Eldarion -s> Arwen -d> Celebrían -d> Galadriel -d> Finarfin -s> Finwë -f> Fëanor -f> Curufin -f> Celebrimbor

Evil, evil, evil. Making me write those long lines.

Fingolfin II 04-04-2004 11:08 PM

Evil but...
 
on the brighter side, you got it right! ;)

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-04-2004 11:28 PM

Thanks!
 
Now for it:
Finrod -> Ivorwen

Fingolfin II 04-04-2004 11:36 PM

Finrod -s> Finarfin -s> Finwë -f> Fingolfin -f> Turgon -f> Idril -m> Eärendil -f> Elrond -f> Arwen -m> Eldarion -s> Aragorn II -s> Gilraen -d>Ivorwen

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-04-2004 11:42 PM

'tis an exchange.
 
You're correct...again. ;)

Fingolfin II 04-04-2004 11:47 PM

Lol, how about Arwen->Durin (The Deathless)

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-04-2004 11:53 PM

Arwen to Gimli? A half-elf to a dwarf?
 
Methinks you're confusing this thread for the "Six degrees of separation" thread. ;)

Fingolfin II 04-04-2004 11:59 PM

So it appears, because of our constant exchange. However, I did mean to put them in this Familial Ties thread. Trust me, it works :p.

I was actually inspired to ask this question by you Nil, believe it or not.

Oh and by the way, I changed Gimli to Durin the Deathless so that it could be done without skipping unknown people in between :).

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-05-2004 12:06 AM

I think I got it...
 
Here goes:

Arwen -d> Elrond -s> Elwing -d> Dior Eluchil -s> Lúthien -d> Melian -> Eru -f> Aulë -> Durin I (the Deathless)

Am I right, or is my answer right?

Fingolfin II 04-05-2004 12:08 AM

You're wrong, but your answer's right
 
This is like pass the parcel...well I guess it's your go...again...:)

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-05-2004 12:15 AM

A longer one. [insert evil smiley]

Olwë -> Elros

Two ways. You may use the -b> [brother] link once.

Fingolfin II 04-05-2004 12:22 AM

Olwë -b> Thingol -f> Luthien -m> Dior -f> Elwing -m> Elros

OR

Olwë -f> Earwen -m> Galadriel -m> Celebrian -m> Arwen -d> Elrond -b> Elros

OR

Olwë -f> Earwen -m> Galadriel -m> Celebrian -m> Arwen -d> Elrond -s> Elwing -m> Elros

OR
Olwë -f> Earwen -m> Galadriel -d> Finarfin -s> Finwë -f> Fingolfin -f> Turgon -f> Idril -m> Eärendil -f> Elros

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-05-2004 12:26 AM

Four ways?!
 
Elenrod hands the the thread over to Fingolfin II.

Fingolfin II 04-05-2004 12:30 AM

Not duplicated, but almost.
 
Anyway, try this one-

Boromir -> Elfwine

Two ways. One shorter and one longer :).

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-05-2004 12:39 AM

Just to be sure...
 
Uh...which Boromir. It would presumtuous of me to use "Boromir of the Nine Walkers."

Fingolfin II 04-05-2004 02:44 AM

It's Boromir of the Nine Walkers.

The Perky Ent 04-05-2004 10:14 PM

Boromir -s> Denethor -f> Faramir -f> Elboron -s> Eowyn -d> Eomund -f> Eomer -f> Elfwine

Fingolfin II 04-05-2004 11:07 PM

Correct.

Fingolfin II 04-08-2004 01:27 AM

*Bump* Perky!

The Perky Ent 04-08-2004 03:14 PM

Right, I knew that!
 
Well now let's see! Ah,

Amrod -----> Ar-Pharazon


Have the fun i'll know you'll have ;)

Fingolfin II 04-09-2004 11:12 PM

Amrod -s> Feanor -s> Finwe -f> Fingolfin -f> Turgon -f> Idril -m> Earendil -f> Elros Tar-Minyatur -f> Vardamir -f>Tar-Amandil -f> Tar-Elendil -f> Tar-Meneldur -f> Tar-Aldarion -f> Tar Ancalime -m> Tar-Anarion -f>Tar-Surion -f> Tar-Telperien -m> Tar-Minastir -f> Tar Ciryatan -f>Tar-Atanamir -f> Tar Ancalimon -f> Tar-Telemmaite -f> Tar-Vanimelde -m> Tar Alcarin -f> Tar Calmacil -f> Ar-Adunakhor -f> Ar-Zimrathon -f> Ar-Sakaltho -f> Ar-Gimilzor -f> Ar-Gimilkhad -f> Ar-Pharazon

Phew!

The Perky Ent 04-10-2004 08:12 AM

Roger Roger! That's a Big 10-4 Over

Fingolfin II 04-11-2004 03:57 AM

I can't be bothered thinking so I'll give you an easy one that's relatively free of pain:

Celeborn -> Luthien

NightKnight 04-11-2004 04:38 AM

That one was indeed easy:

Celeborn -s> Galadhon -f> Galathil -f> Nimloth -m> Elwing -d> Dior -s> Luthien

Fingolfin II 04-11-2004 08:23 PM

Well done.

NightKnight 04-12-2004 02:30 AM

Well well well...

Barahir (Beren's father) -> Eomer

There is a small gap in there.

Nilpaurion Felagund 04-17-2004 03:15 AM

A question.
 
Is Vidugavia involved?

NightKnight 04-17-2004 03:49 AM

Yes.

The Perky Ent 04-17-2004 04:05 PM

If you mean Beren Erchamion and not Beren the steward it's:
Beren -f> Dior -f> Elwing -m> Elrond -f> Arwen -m> Eldarion -s> Aragorn II -s> Arathorn II -s> Arador -s> Argonui -s> Arathorn I -s> Arassuil -s> Arahad II -s> Aravorn -s> Aragost -s> Arahad I -s> Araglas -s> Aragorn I -s> Aravir -s> Aranuir -s> Arahael -s> Aranarth -s> Arvedui -s> Araphant -s> Araval s> Arveleg II -s> Arvegil -s> Argeleb II -s> Araphor -s> Arveleg I -s> Argeleb I -s> Malvegil -s> Celebrindor -s> Celepharn -s> Mallor -s> Beleg -s> Amlaith -s> Eärendur -s> Elendur -s> Valandur -s> Tarondor -s> Tarcil -s> Arantar -s> Eldacar -s> Valandil -s> Isildur -s> Elendil -f> Anarion -f> Melendil -f> Cemendur -f> Earendil -f> Anardil -f> Ostoher -f> Tarostar -f> Turambar -f> Atanatar I -f> Siriondil -f> Tarkiryan -f> Eärnil I -f> Ciryandil -f> Hyarmendacil I -f> Atanatar II -f> Calmacil -f> Minalcar -f> Valakar -f> Eldacar -s> Galadwen -d> Vidugavia -f> ..... -f> Marhari -f> Marhwini -f> Forthwini -gf> Frumgar -f> Fram -f> Léod -f> Eorl -f> Brego -f> Aldor -f> Frea -f> Freawine -f> Goldwine -f>Deor -f> Gram -f> Hild -m> Frealaf -f> Brytta -f> Walda -f> Folca -f> Folcwine -f> Fengel -f> Thengel -f> Theodwyn -m> Eomer


Whew, hope i'm right!

NightKnight 04-18-2004 04:01 AM

You are right, except for the fact that you were supposed to start with Barahir. ;) But don't worry, you'll get it anyway. But you could have shortened it by using the connection between Arvedui and Firiel. The floor is yours. :)

The Perky Ent 04-18-2004 08:48 PM

Woah! I did start at Beren! Wowzers! I make tons of careless mistakes, and that proves it! Anyways, the next one is

Stonehelm ---> Ironfoot


very easy


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