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Hilde Bracegirdle 07-10-2004 08:22 PM

Ah, very good we cross posted, or edited. Reepicheep is a rather large and courageous mouse, if memory serves me right. And Prince Caspian is well, Prince Caspian.

Ealasaide 07-10-2004 08:26 PM

AHA! Busted... never read any C.S.Lewis, though I always intended to. Looks like a trip to the library may be in order! :p Lewis Carroll, though, and I'm golden! :D 'Tis always brillig at my house...

Hilde - Yup! That'd be the one. A Double Album: "This is the Moody Blues" I'm sure it's the same album because I heard yours and had to run out and buy one just like it... this was of course many moons ago, in a living room far, far away...

Hilde Bracegirdle 07-10-2004 08:34 PM

And the borogoves are somewhat mimsy, what with that stuffed Bandersnatch over the doorway to the shed!

Ealasaide 07-11-2004 05:07 PM

Ooh.. yes! Bagged that Bandersnatch m'self, I did! My vorple blade went snicker-snack and we had a wonderful Bandersnatch stew for dinner. :D

mark12_30 08-26-2004 07:45 AM

Jubjub birds and wights--

Once upon a tulgy thread there was a frumious discussion about how the slithy downs had changed over the frabjous unfolding years. Can anyone remember the title/ whereabouts/ instigator/ wabe/ SOMETHING FINDABLE of that vorpal thread? I have searched and searched.

I though it was Child, but that was the before&afterTheMovies thread.

Mithalwen 08-26-2004 12:37 PM

Please may I join?
 
I meet the entrance requirements ..... do I have to give the margins .... lol :D

mark12_30 08-26-2004 12:42 PM

Hey, Mithalwen! I was hoping that you'd sign up. If you meet the requirements-- Eighteen years of Tolkien in your life-- then you are in, lady!

Incidentally, there are many who share your admiration for Faramir ( 30 years ago, I would have had to fight it out with my bestTolkien-buddy who had claimed him already, so I settled on Eomer at the time). I am now, however, a Frodo-addict, as are others on this thread. But we try not to swoon, except over Balrogs.

What's your favorite personal Middle-Earth / Tolkien-story?

Mithalwen 08-26-2004 12:54 PM

I like book Frodo and radio frodo but not film frodo........


Well of course I like Faramir and Eowyn..... I like Eomer too, and I wish there was more about the house of Dol Amroth and Elrond and Celebrian......

I like the passion and psychology of Aldarion and Erendis and The Narn i hin Hurin is incredibly powerful.........

Other than that I am the standard elf-fancier ..... :D

mark12_30 08-26-2004 01:00 PM

"Standard elf-fancier"! Most amusing!

But by "favorite personal Middle-Earth / Tolkien-story" I mean what thing has ever happened to you that was Middle-Earth related? It can be funny, sad, profound, whatever.

For instance-- in my teens, I sewed a calf-length green cloak out of cotton (since discarded, unfortunately) and I wore it to school. No-- I mean, I wore it EVERYWHERE every day in school-- to all of my classes. i was the laughingstock of the school. But I was elvish, by golly.

Mithalwen 08-26-2004 01:08 PM

Sorry ..... that gauntlet blow must have dazed me..... no stories as such .. I only wore my cloak in private..... and did try to read LOTR sitting in the only tree in the garden - and elderly apple singularly unlike a Mallorn.....

mark12_30 08-26-2004 02:25 PM

Er.... that thread regarding the evolution of the Downs-- clues anyone?

Estelyn Telcontar 08-26-2004 03:39 PM

Sounds like it should be on the Barrow-Downs forum, Helen, but I don't recall enough about it to know which it could be...

Hilde Bracegirdle 08-26-2004 07:18 PM

Greetings, Mithalwen! I take it the reference to a gauntlet has to do with the Chapter-by-Chapter Thread.

Fordim Hedgethistle 08-26-2004 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilde Bracegirdle
Greetings, Mithalwen! I take it the reference to a gauntlet has to do with the Chapter-by-Chapter Thread.

Indeed it does. I got us all in trouble with Esty with my silliness, for which I feel truly sorry. But as this thread is devoted to silliness (or senility). . .

Aragorn is way better than Faramir! Sure Faramir might not pick up the Ring if he saw it by the roadside, but I always thought that would be darned irresponsible of him:

"Hey! Look! The One Ring! Best leave that there. I hope somebody comes along and takes care of that thing before Sauron finds it. Gosh, it's getting late. I'd better get home before dad gets all angry with me for not defending the kingdom. I sure wish I were like Boromir -- he'd pick up that Ring, but that's OK cause he's my hero. . ."

What a dweeb.

(Hey -- Mithalwen called Aragorn a prig. My back is up. As is my ire.)

mark12_30 08-26-2004 08:17 PM

Dweeb...?
 
(once again, scratches head)

Mithalwen, just in case you want one, I think there's a gauntlet on the floor here somewhere... And I know where I can find a pair of pistols, I think. Where'd Bilbo the pony get off to now?

While you two are settling the details, I'm going to have a glass. Y ...And hasn't ANYbody remembered something parseable about that thread? (rummages around in dusty archives, spilling wine on documents)

Hilde Bracegirdle 08-27-2004 06:27 AM

Ah, I see I have some catching up to do on the Strider thread! I just hope that I don’t start talking to my screen as a result!

Helen, that wouldn’t be the Much Has Changed thread, would it? About how long ago do you remember seeing the elusive topic?

Maédhros 08-27-2004 08:09 AM

What exactly do you guys in this club?

mark12_30 08-27-2004 08:56 AM

Maedhros-- so far, I haven't seen any rules. We're genteel enough here so that they don't seem needed. To misquote Esty:
Quote:

TCOA has no rules; TCOA needs no rules.
If posters get out of line, there's always a handy cane nearby. Now that you know, pull up a rocker. You don't know where the lost thread is, do you?

~~~~

Thanks, Hilde! But that wasn't it.

More data...?

Well, last spied:more than a month, less than a year?
Posters included Maril and Child and many others...
Essence of the thread was that the Downs used to be for scholars-- will we weather the movie/ teenybopper invasion? Will it still be a good place? what will change? What will we lose/ gain? I think it was a pretty old thread, that got resurrected around the release of each movie, more or less.

Now that the furor of RotK has calmed a bit, I wanted to bring it back up-- mostly to note that the new rating system seems to have had quite a positive effect on posting quality, and suchlike comments.

But-- drat if I can find it!

Maédhros 08-27-2004 09:22 AM

Quote:

Well, last spied:more than a month, less than a year?
Posters included Maril and Child and many others...
Essence of the thread was that the Downs used to be for scholars-- will we weather the movie/ teenybopper invasion? Will it still be a good place? what will change? What will we lose/ gain? I think it was a pretty old thread, that got resurrected around the release of each movie, more or less.

Now that the furor of RotK has calmed a bit, I wanted to bring it back up-- mostly to note that the new rating system seems to have had quite a positive effect on posting quality, and suchlike comments.

But-- drat if I can find it!
Ok thanks for the info. But I'm afraid that I do not meet the requirements to join such club, I was just curious. I just wanted to know if you guys did something special that required to have 18 years or more to be done.
I have always thought that the important thing is what the poster/person had to say rather than how much time they have been reading the books. I think that I can stay my ground with any member of the club. ;)

Again thanks for the info.

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fordim Hedgethistle
What a dweeb.

(Hey -- Mithalwen called Aragorn a prig. My back is up. As is my ire.)


Now I wish I had used my original chioce of vocabulary and not substituted a similar but milder word :p ....... Poltroon! You treat me with contumely.......and you have dissed the object of my affections...... Be afraid, be very afraid......

"But no living man am I! You look upon a woman...... You stand between me and my lord..... Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him."

Estelyn Telcontar 08-27-2004 10:16 AM

Don't worry, Maédhros - this corner of the Downs is not limited by a secret password or set up for non-"family-friendly" activities! :D (And no, Mithalwen and Fordim, I will not condone duelling on the premises! Go out to the traditional grounds if you must. :p ) It was merely begun to give members of a certain age a place to share their often similar experiences, since many of us have been fans of the LotR books for decades. That does not lessen the knowledge or experience of younger members or those who have come to know and love the book more recently.

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 10:48 AM

The lost thread ...sound like an quest to me ......

Esty ... Fordim made the mistake of assuming (on Eru knows what grounds ...) that I was a gentleman ... I am not and so I guess that means we cannot settle the matter of honour "like gentlemen" (althought I quite like the idea of myself in appropriate costume, hair tied with the traditional black ribbon - eek - just as well HI is too young for this thread lol).

Faramir a dweeb? He has blood in his veins not iced water and he doesn't snivel that he can't make his mind up when things go pear-shaped ... bah ..... and he is man enough to cope with a real woman... :p

After that insult ... I think it may get a bit more low down and sneaky - and that gauntlet may have alternative uses.......

Mithalwen La Rabouilleuse

mark12_30 08-27-2004 10:57 AM

( Glances uneasily at Mithalwen, then whispers: )

Careful, lass. Esty's cane packs quite a wallop, and her reach is long.

*resumes rocking while pouring another glass of wine, then returns to the library to shuffle more documents.*

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 11:03 AM

Ah well, while I am old amongst the "children", I am at the younger end of the spectrum here and maybe sprightlier than most .......and she only forbad duelling on the premises......... and besides, I have one of those innocent faces ...no-one ever believes I could do anything bad......... :D

Hilde Bracegirdle 08-27-2004 11:21 AM

Quote:

I think that I can stay my ground with any member of the club.
Maédhros , it is comforting to know of a place where one can speak of Tolkien poetry on vinyl (and eggplants and emus, and SPI games), and people actually understand that you are not 'off your rocker'! ;) And neither do they fall asleep you mention such things. At least I don't think they do.... :p

Helen, it seems to me I do remember the thread in question, though I saw it in passing. Did all the threads get transfered over, other than movies?

Fordim Hedgethistle 08-27-2004 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark 12_30
Dweeb...?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(once again, scratches head)

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Quote:

dweeb, n. N. Amer. slang.

A person held in contempt, esp. one ridiculed as studious, puny, or unfashionable; a fool. Cf. NERD n.; FARAMIR n.

mark12_30 08-27-2004 11:38 AM

:eek:

I know your avatar is The Professor, Fordie. But now you are taking on airs.

Estelyn Telcontar 08-27-2004 11:39 AM

Mark/Helen, I like your new avatar! It goes very well with the personal title.

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 11:42 AM

And I doubt the professor would have used slang from the colonies / former colonies.......

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 11:44 AM

And I would deem that she is scratching her head over the application of the word not its meaning.........

Fordim Hedgethistle 08-27-2004 11:53 AM

Oh dear, my pale attempt at humour has gone awry. Allow me to once again post the OED entry, with one thing highlighted for added emphasis:

Quote:

A person held in contempt, esp. one ridiculed as studious, puny, or unfashionable; a fool. Cf. NERD n.; FARAMIR n.
It was supposed to be utterly hilarious. . .

My apologies to the Professor for my presumption, to Helen for appearing as though I were lecturing, and to all for the putting on of airs (makes me sound like I'm a bald Yorkshireman -- get it? "Putting on 'airs" like in a wig? Like I said, pale attempts at humour).

mark12_30 08-27-2004 11:57 AM

( scratches head again, scanning floor ) ...Where's that dratted gauntlet...?

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 11:59 AM

Psst ....... *hands Helen the gauntlet* ...kept it safe...knew it would be useful......

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 12:00 PM

and if its pistols you want .... I could try to locate a Judas pair......

mark12_30 08-27-2004 12:08 PM

Eh, Fordim? What's that?

...An apology?

....oh.

(Hefts gauntlet, and-- once again-- scratches head. Signs, returns gauntlet to Mithalwen, and bends a leery eye on the man who called Captain Faramir a dweeb.)

Mithalwen 08-27-2004 12:09 PM

*whispers* he didn't actually apologise for calling him that .....

mark12_30 08-31-2004 07:02 AM

Okay. If at first you don't succeed....

Once there was a thread that worried about the changes in the Downs as time went on. Less book-emphasis, more movie-emphasis, too many Legolusters, lowering of overall post-quality, and loss of old scholarly members due to all of the above.

Can somebody remember the thread name, originator, or some searchable text contained within so that I can find the bloody thread?

Please?

Child of the 7th Age 08-31-2004 07:50 AM

Helen,

Was this the thread in the Barrowdowns forum where one of the older members got on and said that he was leaving because of the changes in the site? Then a discussion took place about whether what he was saying was "just"?

That is the only context I can place it in. Perhaps, skimming the thread titles on the BD forum for the last two years would dredge up what you want, as I can't remember anything more than that.

Or are you thinking of something totally different?

Child of the 7th Age 08-31-2004 07:55 AM

Nothing like replying to my own post! :D

Is this it? Click here.

mark12_30 08-31-2004 08:34 AM

Magnificent thread, Child!! Not quite the one I had in mind, but-- it may end up as the one I post on. Glad you linked it here so I can find it again!

It seemed to me there was another that both you and maril had posted on. Perhaps I am off my rocker. (Well, I am, it's five hours to the North.) But I seem to remember more discussions about the flood of new members due to the movies, and the skyrocketing of content-free posts, and whether the Downs would ever be as good as it was, and is it better only different... angsty alternated with hopeful depending on the poster. And some newbies had chimed in with I was a Leggybopper once, but that was six WHOLE months ago....

Guess I'll search on Leggybopper. (shudder)


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