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Thinlómien 03-16-2009 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mormegil (Post 588955)
How about in 24 hours from now we begin three votes maximum. You can double hurt somebody or hurt two distinct individuals. Only 1 heal per turn. The 24 hours will give a chance to hear from Bibidi to see what he thinks. I wonder how quick that will make the game end. Of course once this one ends there are so many characters that could be used we could start a new one easy enough.
I think that sounds good. :)

Eönwë 03-16-2009 03:41 PM
Unite, ye fannes of Bombadille!
 
Hurt Fingolfin, heal Tommy B

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(8)
Eowyn(16)
Fingolfin(9)
Gimli(16)
Gamling(15)
Hama(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(12)
Witch-King(9)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Thinlómien 03-16-2009 03:47 PM
Hurt Fingolfin, heal Éowyn

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(8)
Éowyn(17)
Fingolfin(8)
Gimli(16)
Gamling(15)
Háma(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(12)
Witch-King(9)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Nogrod 03-16-2009 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morm
How about in 24 hours from now we begin three votes maximum. You can double hurt somebody or hurt two distinct individuals. Only 1 heal per turn. The 24 hours will give a chance to hear from Bibidi to see what he thinks.
I do agree. Without a double damage this game will never end... 24 hours should be a long enough time for everyone to notice it - and the thread-owner to accept it - or not... :p

Hurt Hama, heal Tommy B.! :)

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(8)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(8)
Gimli(16)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(13)
Witch-King(9)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

EDIT: Corrected the numbers according to Lommy's post...

Cailín 03-16-2009 03:53 PM
Hurt Gimli, Heal the Chief Warg


Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(9)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(8)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(13)
Witch-King(9)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

mormegil 03-16-2009 03:53 PM
Hurt Boromir Heal Warg...I'm trying Eomer

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(10)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(8)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(13)
Witch-King(9)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Crossed...I think I fixed the numbers

mormegil 03-16-2009 03:55 PM
Okay unless there are any major objections 2 hurts and 1 heal will be implemented at 4:00PM Mountain Time on March 17th.

Eomer of the Rohirrim 03-16-2009 03:57 PM
So, we are doing minimum of 3 people between your new votes? I preferred 5 but oh well...

Hurt Fingolfin (let's get him out) and heal Chief Warg.

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(11)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(7)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(13)
Witch-King(9)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Eönwë 03-16-2009 03:59 PM
Hurt Wiky, Heal Tomby :p

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(11)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(7)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:01 PM
Hurt Warg, heal Háma

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(10)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(7)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Tuor in Gondolin 03-16-2009 04:02 PM
Hurt Sauron Heal Eowyn

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(11)
Eowyn(18)
Fingolfin(7)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Nogrod 03-16-2009 04:06 PM
I do like Eowyn but she has a preposterous 18 points...

A tough one.

Hurt Eowyn, heal Fingolfin.

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(11)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(8)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:06 PM
You know, I think the point is rather, that until somebody is really eliminated, it's just switching back and forth with the same number of points: the situation tends to equalize after some time. So, I think we'll see tomorrow, if we introduce this double-hurting system, how different spin the things will have...

Eomer of the Rohirrim 03-16-2009 04:06 PM
I think it's worth reminding everyone to check the scores when they post to ensure they are correct, because there will undoubtedly be a lot more feverish cross-posting to come. :)

Nogrod 03-16-2009 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 588982)
I think it's worth reminding everyone to check the scores when they post to ensure they are correct, because there will undoubtedly be a lot more feverish cross-posting to come. :)
Exactly! Check your posts with the "preview mode" to be sure you are up to a real-time situation.

Cailín 03-16-2009 04:11 PM
Hurt Fingolfin, Heal the Chief Warg


Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(11)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(7)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae


P.S. I included Legate's slightly offensive vote, despite moral misgivings, because I think Nogrod and Tuor overlooked it. ;)

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nogrod (Post 588983)
Exactly! Check your posts with the "preview mode" to be sure you are up to a real-time situation.
Certainly, although even that does not always help - sometimes you are x-posting with somebody just on minute, and it happens that between the time you click "preview" and post, somebody else does. It happens relatively often, actually, at least to me.

Eomer of the Rohirrim 03-16-2009 04:14 PM
Legate, you are a fiend and I will never stop hunting you. :p

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:15 PM
Thank you, Cailín :) Because you were so nice, I am going to apologize for hurting the Chief Warg and heal Boromir. :)

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(10)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(7)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Eomer of the Rohirrim 03-16-2009 04:17 PM
Hurt Fingolfin, Heal the Chief Warg


Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(11)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae



Kill the Elf! Kill the Elf!

(Adjusted for Legate's vote)

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 588988)
Kill the Elf! Kill the Elf!
See, kids, now that just shows how calm and peaceful creatures the Wargs are... :p

Tuor in Gondolin 03-16-2009 04:18 PM
Hurt Witch-King Heal Hama

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(10)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(7)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(18)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(7)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Eomer of the Rohirrim 03-16-2009 04:19 PM
I am of the Rohirrim, thank you. I could never pretend to aspire to the glory of a Warg.

I fear I must retire to bed now and when I wake up that wonderful creature will have been sacrificed. :(

Thinlómien 03-16-2009 04:20 PM
I can start hurting Fingolfin if you won't let the Warg get past 10 points ;)

Hurt chief warg, heal Sauron

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(10)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(18)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(7)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

edit: xed with Tuor so fixed points :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:21 PM
We won't ;) Hurt the Warg, heal Gamling.

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(9)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(16)
Hama(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Tuor in Gondolin 03-16-2009 04:22 PM
I like the two hurts, one heal model, but there
is one other intriguing way to try at some other
time: only one hurt or one heal at a time.

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:24 PM
Tuor, but that will take probably quite long time too... or maybe not... but I think it might... and mainly, what if everybody just healed all the time, you see... the game will never end.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 588992)
I fear I must retire to bed now and when I wake up that wonderful creature will have been sacrificed. :(
Mwa ha ha ha ha...

Eönwë 03-16-2009 04:38 PM
Nothing against her, but hurt Eowyn, Heal Tom

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(9)
Eowyn(16)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(16)
Hama(17)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(15)
Witch-King(8)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Eönwë 03-16-2009 04:45 PM
Also, I think that rather than 1 hurt or 1 heal, it should be 2 hurts or 2 heals, otherwise the game would be really slow.

Thinlómien 03-16-2009 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 589004)
Also, I think that rather than 1 hurt or 1 heal, it should be 2 hurts or 2 heals, otherwise the game would be really slow.
Yes but I still think the 2 hurts 1 heal system is better - you see, even this thread is named Hurt AND Heal, not Hurt OR Heal... :Merisu:

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-16-2009 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinlómien (Post 589005)
Yes but I still think the 2 hurts 1 heal system is better - you see, even this thread is named Hurt AND Heal, not Hurt OR Heal... :Merisu:
Certainly. And, Eönwë, note what I said above - the point of this game is that you are doing two things at the same time, otherwise, it would be just about giving points to your favourite character all the time, and everybody will have 3598 points and nobody will ever die... (or, if somebody will suddenly be so brave to realise that, it will take other 3598 posts to take that one character down... which would, of course, mean condemning your own champion to death, for he will stay another 3598 points behind the others...)

Eönwë 03-16-2009 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinlómien (Post 589005)
Yes but I still think the 2 hurts 1 heal system is better - you see, even this thread is named Hurt AND Heal, not Hurt OR Heal...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 589007)
Certainly. And, Eönwë, note what I said above - the point of this game is that you are doing two things at the same time, otherwise, it would be just about giving points to your favourite character all the time, and everybody will have 3598 points and nobody will ever die... (or, if somebody will suddenly be so brave to realise that, it will take other 3598 posts to take that one character down... which would, of course, mean condemning your own champion to death, for he will stay another 3598 points behind the others...)
Okay, okay, I was merely pointing out that 2 would be better than one. But having 2 heals would definately be more boring than having 2 hurts.

I like the idea of 2 hurts, 1 heal. It would make it much more competitive and makes your choice of hurting much more important.

Can the 2 hurts be spread around, or do they both have to be for the same candidate?

Nogrod 03-16-2009 05:43 PM
Let's try to cut a bit lower those heads that try to raise themselves too high before the new rules - hopefully - take place.

So hurt Hama, heal the WK.

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(9)
Eowyn(16)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(16)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(15)
Witch-King(9)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Nogrod 03-16-2009 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 589013)
Can the 2 hurts be spread around, or do they both have to be for the same candidate?
I thought it would be two hurts to one candidate but are there other suggestions? Two hurts for one person would really make this game going... but should we have a different choice (1+1 hurts) as well?

Eönwë 03-16-2009 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nogrod (Post 589019)
I thought it would be two hurts to one candidate but are there other suggestions? Two hurts for one person would really make this game going... but should we have a different choice (1+1 hurts) as well?
I vote for 2 hurts for the same person.

the phantom 03-16-2009 06:22 PM
Hurt Gamling, Heal Witch-King

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(9)
Eowyn(16)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(15)
Sauron(10)
Tom Bombadil(15)
Witch-King(10)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Folwren 03-16-2009 06:51 PM
Hurt Sauron, heal Samwise.

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(16)
The Chief Warg(9)
Eowyn(16)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(16)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(15)
Witch-King(10)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

mormegil 03-16-2009 06:56 PM
Hurt Boro Heal Sam

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(9)
Eowyn(16)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(17)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(15)
Witch-King(10)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Tuor in Gondolin 03-16-2009 07:23 PM
Hurt The Chief Warg Heal Eowyn

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(8)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(17)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(15)
Witch-King(10)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae

Oddwen 03-16-2009 10:05 PM
Tommy can you hear me / Can you feel me hurt you?
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy

(and heal the Wiki)

Aragorn(15)
Boromir(15)
The Chief Warg(8)
Eowyn(17)
Fingolfin(6)
Gimli(15)
Gamling(15)
Hama(16)
Samwise Gamgee(17)
Sauron(9)
Tom Bombadil(14)
Witch-King(11)

Eliminated:
Haldir by mormegil
Frodo by Legate of Amon Lanc
Gothmog (non-balrog) by Oddwen
Gothmog(Balrog) by Rikae


I vote for 2 hurts for a single candidate per Downer. The rivalries (and briberies) would be so much more meaningful. :p

++TWO POINTS AT A BLOW


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