I thank thee for thy kind words, but this riddle is hard to fathom. Mayhap my noble brand knoweth the king whereof thou speakest:

How many times do I have to tell you not to speak that way? You're getting such a cut next time I'm out

Give me the answer or I won't get that new whetstone.

All right already! It's Amroth. Now shut up and go away

This maketh no sense to me, but so it ever is with matters of thought. Could it be that the sword speaks sooth?

I'm guessing wildly... Minhiriath?

(I know it makes no sense whatsoever, but when you're as sleep-deprived and caffeine-overdosed as I am, you start thinking about the strangest things.)

I'd hate to break the bad news to Wylkynsion, but...no. Don't let him kill me...

Finwe! Your answer is...oh, wait...wrong.

Keep guessing! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Hmmm...

Minuial? Mitheithel?

It's a person...The King is a straight clue... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Hmmm... Aragorn?

We have a negative, Sierra-Four. I repeat, we have a negative!

Keep guessing. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I might be kind enough for a hint, too. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Hints are for wimps. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

I believe that the answer is Amlaith.

"Lalaith" means laughter. Being noteless, it loses the note "la" to become "laith".

Putting it after "am" (morning), we get "Amlaith", the first King of Arthedain.

Am I right, or what? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Haha! Wrong! Not so smart now, eh...

Wait, you're freaking right! Aaaaah!!!!!

Of course I am. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Possessive female from the Mark taking you, we hear, as a Rider.

Take note that it's almost eleven, but I've got a wild guess...could it be Aragorn? I'm just working off of a connection to Eowyn ("Progressive female from the Mark") and something that sounds like "Rider" (Strider).

I'm likely wrong, but why not try...?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:07 AM December 31, 2003: Message edited by: Orual ]

Meriadoc Brandybuck ?

Dernhelm took him as a rider

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"Show it to me"
Thingol to Beren

Nope. Think less literally and more cryptically. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

This is a hard one to crack, Saucepan, but I shall take a rather imbecilic crack at it:

Since "her" is the possessive form of "she" ("Possesive female"), and since you talk about a the Mark, meaning Rohan, perhaps you mean Herugrim, the sword of Theoden?

Or could it be Dernhelm? Or is my answer too obvious? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Lord of Angmar, you are very close indeed. So close, in fact, that you are just one syllable out.

Nope, Nilpaurion, not Dernhelm.

Herunúmen?

Herucalmo?

Nope. Right two syllables, wrong ending.

Try solving the cryptic clues (the Lord of Angmar has done some of this already). I will not be awarding a correct answer without an explanation. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Herubrand ? L of A's cryptic reasoning + the name of a Rider of Rohan ?

EDIT: plus "Mark" = brand ? So "Mark" was a double - a cryptic AND a straight clue ?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:05 PM January 05, 2004: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Actually, "Mark" was a cryptic clue for brand, with a sounded "you" (ie "u") before it. The straight clue was "Rider".

But you were on the right track, and gave the corrct answer, so the thread is yours, Master of Doom. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Smeagol or Smaug? Smeagol or Smaug?
I choose Smaug

No, neither.

Nice avy ! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Our friend Thorin of the Arkenstone?

Thanks! and thank you for the Yul inspiration!
*hums and drums on her computer desk "The Twelve Days of Christmas"

No - there's a "cryptic" clue in there.

Great...something?
Edit for clarity: That is, does the word "Great" figure in?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:45 PM January 06, 2004: Message edited by: Celebrian ]

Nyet.

...nyet?

Errr - no, the word "Great" does not appear in the answer.

Steward of Gondor?

Nope.

HINT: A "cryptic" clue (by my definition) means a Scramble, a word-within-words, a "sounds like", etc.

HINT 2: "stolen treasure" might be more accurate.

I can't remember his name but maybe the guy who stole the Silmarils?
If this is wrong could you still tell me who it was cos I've lost my copy of the Silmarillion - doh!

You probable mean Morgoth or Melkor, as his original name was.
But honestly, I don't think Turambar's riddle will be THAT easy. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
But anyway, welcome to the Downs.
Greetings,
EfR

Beren?

The answer would be Ascar.

Nilpaurion has it - the river Ascar, where the stolen treasure of Doriath was drowned.

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