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Well, I really can't see that seer comment being anything serious. It looks more like another Rikae/Mac joke. But I'm finding everyone's reactions to the comment to be very odd.
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Whether Rikae is joking or not (or actually even if my horrid scenario is true), I think lynching Mac wouldn't be a bad option. edit: xed with Brinn |
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Option: she's actually the seer and we need to figure out what clues she left because she stands a shot of dying tonight Option: she's actually Frodo and wants to be turned tonight (thereby making a target out of herself) Option: she's a bad guy and we need to figure out her motives Option: insert any option you like. What benefit doesn't come from taking a close look at statements? If it's a joke, I'm not particularly upset about a bit of time taken from my day. If it's not, I've got a head start on figuring out what it means. |
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I'd suggest we keep any speculation regarding the Innkeeper/Seer to ourselves. Discussing Seerish comments openly just draws the wraiths towrd the true Seer, which isn't good. True, it may help to protect said person, but I personally think it wise to conceal the Seer's identity from xyr enemies as long as possible.
I'm still suspicious of Mac, due to his ongoing suspicion of Gollum. |
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Besides... it gives me something to do instead of be angsty. |
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I was joking, but I won't say I wasn't well aware somebody might make something of it, and I thought what they made of it might be useful.
Mac, I've tested you three times now, and you've earned my trust. If you're a baddie, kudos. Lommy, if you mean what I think you mean, that's just a back up plan. Read a little further. There's also another one. As an ordo, I want to die during the night to protect the gifteds, and I also want to do what I can to trick wolves into giving themselves away. Nothing special there, really. Now, on to making that list I promised. EDIT: And X'd with the whole page again. |
Okay, I've read and gotten caught up but unfortunately don't have time to comment on anything due to a prior commitment that is going to eat up the bulk of the remainder of my day. With any luck I'll be back within a few hours of deadline and be able to actually contribute then.
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But there are certain speculations that should not be tabled. At any rate, Rikae has spoken. Whatever your intentions, thanks for making today interesting. :p |
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*stops* I just realized something significant. I shall hush. Rikae: onward and upward. :) |
Fea, if you're suggesting we ought to lynch Mac, I'm up for it.
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Why is it that I feel completely lost? I'm not smart enough to get any sense out of all this suttf. I've lost the track of this discussion completely. Shall we talk about... hmmm... carrots? :Merisu:
EDIT: x-ed with Menel |
Yeah, I came to post some nice ideas but my head feels strangely empty. I think it's smartest if I just let Noggins post and come back when I have thought about things a little (green).
This is one of the times when I feel ww is not my area of expertise... :rolleyes: I'll be back! |
Well, I'd understand how a person would like carrots, but I'm more of a potato guy myself (what's taters, precious, what's taters, eh?).
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Never mind, let's lynch Berry and Greenie. They're sending hints.
Carrots and potatoes clearly indicate... whoever's name Berry Ferny sent to the little green wraith... only trouble is, who would that be... |
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Bah, I still can't see how that comment could've been taken seriously. But I suppose it's all a matter of perspective. It can be easy to interpret the tone and meaning of someone's comment in different ways. |
I must say I was kind of disappointed to hear Rikae gave in so fast... I mean were it a test of sorts I could imagine her trying she should have waited a bit more for any outcome to be reached *. Now it ended up like a little prank made by now clearly and most definitively innocent Rikae, right? That was what you thought, wasn't it? And that's why you had to draw it back before the real seer started getting mad with it? Or was it like Fea suggested that you were hoping to be turned as you're Frodo?
My problem with this is that I could see an innocent Rikae pulling that kind of a trick anyday. Sure. But somehow she gave in soo easily as to make me think twice about the motive behind the trick that was clearly left unexecuted. I mean were it a trick by an innocent she should have waited to see whether it paid off... But now it looked more like something done for other reasons and like she was more than happy to pull that back after the initial reaction ("Rikae must be innocent") was reached? *Well I do agree with Lommy on Mac answering the "challenge" most strangely. Quote:
So it looks ever more strange that Rikae now seems to defend Mac... So is it that they're just a bold pair of wolves (possible) or is it only a RL bride defending her fiancée (possible as well)? Whatever the truth is, I will eye both of them more closely from this on. Quote:
And anyway I think I have to reorientate a bit for now. But first we are going to play some funny games RL with Lommy & Greenie. Back later... |
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No, I know it certainly looked like a joke, but I don't trust anything at this point. |
But sherioushy. *hic* I'm not as think as you drunk I am. *hic*
What I was referring to, Mac, was the fact that you wereacting suspicious about Gollum throughout Day 1, and not just at the end.
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I saw several reactions, and Mac's in particular. That was all I really wanted to do, and yes, of course, I didn't want to risk the real seer being revealed. I thought Mac's response looked innocent when I saw it. Even Lommy's comment on it didn't make it look suspicious, since I took it the way Brinniel did. Now that Mac replied the way he did to Brinn, though, I'm not so sure. His response simply doesn't make sense. I don't think he's Ferny but he could still be a wraith. |
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I wouldn't like to stay up terribly late today, either, so I'm probably voting in a few hours. However now I could pick a person from my Neither list and go through xyr posts. |
Sally- I do want to take a closer look at her. She had some odd interactions with people.
Fea - Could be anything. Lari - Also needs a closer look. Something she said looked odd. Mira - Popping in with the occasional comment, very under-the-reindeer, could be up to no good. Lommy- Looks fairly innocent at the moment. Leggy- Hasn't been around toDay, which is a shame. With everyone thinking him so innocent, I doubt the wolves will leave him alive much longer, and he's a good wolf-hunter. Agan- Has seemed more innocent, although I'm far from sure. Nogrod- He looks like the same old Nog as always, but that doesn't tell me much. Nerwen - I don't know. Perhaps it looks innocent that she waited to vote for Gollum rather than choosing one among Mac, Brinn and Lommy. Then again, I might have done the same as a baddie. Lynching an innocent "big name" without sufficient explanation is harder to defend. Rune -Has been suspecting people on strange grounds. Hard to read. Berry - Newbie-ish. Can't tell much yet. Mac- Perhaps we're better off lynching him toDay. His role could reveal a lot. Menel- His behavior is decidedly queer. I haven't decided what I think of him. Dury- Haven't seen enough of her to form an opinion. Lily- Creeping me out. Brin - Her reaction to my seer prank looks innocentish, especially if Mac is evil. |
I'm tired of Mac being a baddie. Every single game I've played with him in the last two years, it seems, he's been a baddie (well, with the exception of dueling wizards). *sigh*
I'm also tired of being an ordo. For reasons I may or may not have explained yet and I'm too tired at the moment to worry about it: ++A Little Green *wanders off to eat something sweet, like she intended not to do* |
Oh, I give up. Mac, you admit your mistakes so cheerfully and calmly that I might have to consider you innocent and refrain from murderous thoughts against you at least for the time being. :p;)
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When I'm turned into a wraith, I'll kill you all, and you'll never catch me! Mwahahaha! Er, well... |
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Although Kitanna hasn't responded, I find it unlikely we would not get to know when Frodo is turned. At least last night's narration described the happenings in detail enough. I'm in the process of analysing Brinn but I've been constantly distracted because for some reason everyone wants to complain to me about their problems with the opposite/same sex. Also Lommy why does admitting his mistakes make Mac look more innocent? edit: xed with Mrs Butterbur-Underhill |
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Fea - simply feels innocent. Is rational, positively ployful and calm. Admittedly, she says some weird stuff, but oddly enough it doesn't bother me much. Mira - does not worry me, her defending Fea and Lari makes her look innocent, unless they're all wolves. Legate - gives no reason to suspect himself, seems open and sincere. Nerwen - rings no bells. Rune - too aggressive to be a wolf? Neutral sally - flying under my radar. I would not be surprised if she was a wraith, I definitely need to keep an eye on her... Lari - another one who's under my radar. Could be anything. Rikae - I'm inclined to think she's not a wraith, but she could be Ferny or Underhill. Noggie - I don't like his Gollum-voting business at all but his annoyance feels honest and innocent. Rego - he manages to be both all-over-the-place and careful at the same time. He comments almost everything but he does not have strong opinions. I cannot decide if it's suspicious or just a thoughtful newbie learning to get a hang of the game. Mac - no idea. I keep flip-flopping on him so much that I don't want to say anything. Menel - slips under my ranger. :p Durelin - too quiet. Suspicious Aganzir - she just disturbs me somehow, she feels curiously detached from the game and it reminds me of her wolvish self. Greenie - she feels a little disturbing and sneaky, some stuff she says doesn't quite sit right with me. I think, however, that I wouldn't be half this suspicious of her if others weren't suspecting her. Brinniel - feels suspicious, to put it simply. Her comments about the ringbearer are odd. edit: xed with Rikae and Agan |
Rikae and Agan - as for the Frodo-thing, if Kittie does not tell us about Frodo going evil, it could be rather disastrous. Rikae would get to play gifted for a few Days and cause havoc by naming known innocents and she might even be able to draw both our gifteds out of their closets to get the issue solved.
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Brinn
Brinn started by complaining about IC posting. I find it understandable - only a few people had made lots of IC posts and there was nothing of substance yet. It's okay if everyone makes a few of them, but three people filling a page with them merits some complaint.
She might have overreacted a bit to being suspected because of her first post, but I find her reaction rather innocentish. And Rune was certainly unnecessarily evil to her. Her opinion on Frodo is contrary to that of a loud majority but I can understand her. Yeah, of course it would be easiest for us if Frodo just came out and said Hi, here I am! but it doesn't seem fair to ask xem to do it. But it would also make it more boring. At least I would much rather figure xem out based on xyr posts than see xem reveal. It's more entertaining. I can see why some people think she's giving hints to Frodo, but I think too much along the same lines with her to agree with them. Yeah of course it's possible, but it's also possible Brinn is just being fair. Okay she did talk about Frodo quite a lot though. Out of Mac, Lommy and Gollum she found Gollum the most suspicious. It's hard to say anything yet, given that Lommy's & Mac's roles are still unknown. I wasn't very suspicious of Golly but didn't like his lack of substance that much either, so I can well understand why some people wanted to lynch him. She thought Shasta was killed because of leaving no trails. While this is possible, I find it likely that the wolves also thought he was either the seer of Frodo. She made a list of people in #277. I mostly agree with it, except that I'm not worried about Greenie. Her posts are usually well-thought out, but I don't think she was suspiciously careful. Brinn didn't find Rikae's seer comment serious, but found everyone's reactions to it odd. What exactly do you mean by that, Brinn? How were they odd? She said she couldn't see what benefit could come from Fea pretending Rikae was serious. I can. If Fea had a reason to assume Rikae was joking, it would have been sensible to help set her up as a wolf kill. Of course there was a risk of the real seer revealing, though, which I think is why it wasn't pursued further. And of course Rikae can be the real seer now and she's just trying to get the baddies off track. They can never know, unless she is one of them. ;) Quote:
I think Brinn looks rather innocent in general. Her points are mostly sensible, and while I agree that she was rather tense on day 1, it seems to be more due to RL stuff. She's been much more relaxed later. edit: xed with two Lommys |
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I don't know what to make of Rikae and Lommy. They both look rather innocent but I seem to disagree with them on other people, especially with Lommy. |
On the risk of sounding like downplaying what Rikae is saying about me, her extreme flip-flopping on me is not uncommon...
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Rikae, would you share with us what exactly is creeping you out about A Little Green? I'm not trying to defend her, I'm really curious. Quote:
I hate being talked about so much, because it makes me talk about myself all the time, too, from which I am learning nothing about anybody else. edit: crossed with 2 Agans |
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I'm also tired of forcing myself to come up with points that can back up your guilt just because you could have said so also if guilty. |
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