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Urwen 09-24-2019 04:46 AM

Got it. Arwen.


B A L E
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N I G H T

Mithalwen 09-24-2019 07:03 AM

Correct. Arwen means noble woman which is what she is... right back to trying to do a password which might take longer to solve than set.

Urwen 09-24-2019 02:32 PM

A short and easy one.....or is it? :p

He is a thief
Who stole this from me
And in the end,
Death was my fate, you see

Pervinca Took 09-24-2019 03:48 PM

Bilbo and Smaug and the stolen cup?

Urwen 09-24-2019 04:09 PM

Nope.

Urwen 10-06-2019 05:35 AM

Bump

Urwen 10-25-2019 03:16 PM

It's free for the taking, yet no one wants to.....

I give you a day more before I continue this, and fair warning, my shall be related to you-know-who in some manner (please don't make a Voldemort pun), so if you want to prevent my obseeesiiiveee ways, better step up now while you still have the chance.:smokin:

Galadriel55 10-26-2019 07:25 AM

Bilbo and Gollum? Bilbo and the Troll? Morgoth and Feanor or Finwe? Beren and Morgoth?

The riddle doesn't have that many clues pointing to specific instances. There were so many people who stole things from other people who dies sometime after - not to mention the more liberal interpretation where one or both elements are not actually people, and "this" is not a physical item. It would be nice to have a more concrete clue to work with.

But keep your Voldemort riddle, I'd like to see it!

Urwen 10-26-2019 09:46 AM

Well, if you want to see it so badly, here it is

I am a creature of night
I made death take flight
I have no nose
Yet my true nature is ophiose.

(Well, you wanted it and I wanted this thread to continue, so.)

Pervinca Took 10-26-2019 09:56 AM

Thorin and the Arkenstone? (The thief riddle).

Urwen 10-26-2019 01:24 PM

Nope.

Pervinca Took 10-26-2019 04:11 PM

Isildur stole the fruit of Nimloth. (It died, but the fruit didn't).

Urwen 10-27-2019 03:18 AM

Right time period, wrong answer.

Huinesoron 11-05-2019 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 720810)
Well, if you want to see it so badly, here it is

I am a creature of night
I made death take flight
I have no nose
Yet my true nature is ophiose.

(Well, you wanted it and I wanted this thread to continue, so.)

Dropping back in after a madcap couple of weeks... ophiose, ophiose. Appears to be something to do with serpents... which makes it a very Voldemort riddle indeed!

But unless I missed something in Cursed Child, I don't think Voldy is in Middle-earth these days. So... you implied a connection to Gondolin... is it a Balrog? I feel like Gandalf said it was serpentine after its fall into water, and it's certainly a creature of Shadow (and as a Maia, has no innate nose). Not sure about the death part, unless it refers to them scaring away Ungoliant.

hS

Galadriel55 11-05-2019 02:59 PM

Do Balrogs have no noses? No wings, yes. But no noses on top of that is just salt in the wound. ;)

For the record, my first thought was that death taking flight IS the Balrog to whom the oh so ambiguous famous line refers. However I do not think there is a specific subject that would match that case.

Galadriel55 11-05-2019 04:19 PM

Ohh. Is it a Fell Beast? Main reason being that it allowed the Nazgul to fly.

Urwen 11-06-2019 07:53 AM

That was a joke riddle.....

Galadriel55 11-06-2019 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 720822)
That was a joke riddle.....

But what if there is an actual answer? :eek: :D

Huinesoron 11-07-2019 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 720822)
That was a joke riddle.....

[Quietly closes the Complete List of Noseless Entities of Arda...]

hS

Urwen 11-07-2019 05:12 PM

Would anyone like to go next?

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 03:39 PM

I love you, Riddle Thread!

... oh, you meant something more than that, didn't you, Urwen?

They seek him here
They seek him there
Those Hobbits seek him everywhere
Is he in the valley
Or up on the hill?
That danged elusive
[Insert answer here]


hS

Urwen 02-29-2020 03:45 PM

All Hobbits or some Hobbits? Cos Gandalf comes to mind....

Or Tom Bombadil?

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721347)
All Hobbits or some Hobbits? Cos Gandalf comes to mind....

Or Tom Bombadil?

"That danged elusive Bombadil", for the rhyme. :)

hS

Urwen 02-29-2020 06:38 PM

A rather silly riddle, but I am feeling silly
 
An old name
For the person connected to flame
People think 'break a leg'
When they recall 'Morleg'
During the battle he was slain
And the truth shall remain plain.

(Even though the riddle is factual, I am still deceiving you. :p)

Huinesoron 03-03-2020 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721359)
An old name
For the person connected to flame
People think 'break a leg'
When they recall 'Morleg'
During the battle he was slain
And the truth shall remain plain.

(Even though the riddle is factual, I am still deceiving you. :p)

So, um... is the answer anything other than 'Maeglin'?

hS

Urwen 03-03-2020 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 721460)
So, um... is the answer anything other than 'Maeglin'?

hS


The answer is 'Morleg', silly. It says so right in the riddle.


But I suppose that, if you want to be pedantic, FoG can also be the answer, as could 'the individuals whose name is reviled'.

Huinesoron 03-03-2020 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721462)
The answer is 'Morleg', silly. It says so right in the riddle.

Um... true. :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721462)
But I suppose that, if you want to be pedantic, FoG can also be the answer, as could 'the individuals whose name is reviled'.

Argh, I should have dug up some of the dozen ways Tolkien tried to name him after a metal and replied with one of those. That would've been clever.

hS

Urwen 03-03-2020 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 721465)
Um... true. :eek:



Argh, I should have dug up some of the dozen ways Tolkien tried to name him after a metal and replied with one of those. That would've been clever.

hS


Well, he was a metalworker.....

Urwen 03-03-2020 10:58 AM

Your go, should you want it.

Urwen 03-04-2020 08:54 AM

You up for making one?

Huinesoron 03-04-2020 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721508)
You up for making one?

Thinking on it. Will try to post one tonight.

hS

Huinesoron 03-05-2020 02:47 AM

Okay, let's go back to this style:

I know that there was once a time
He gave his love to me,
But I lost him to the sword,
Then lost him to the Sea.
He took my heart out with him
And left our child with me.
Now I languish in the haven.
Who am I?
And who is he?


hS

Urwen 03-05-2020 03:49 AM

Sorry for leaping in, but it screams Erendis and Aldarion. :D

Huinesoron 03-05-2020 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721527)
Sorry for leaping in, but it screams Erendis and Aldarion. :D

It does indeed.

... but it's not them. :D

hS

Urwen 03-05-2020 04:55 AM

So he is connected to both the sword and the sea? I know Hurin perished in the sea and Turin perished by the sword, but not both. Tar-Miriel also perished in the sea, but she is not 'he'.

Feanor and Nerdanel could fit, except he never left any of their children with her (unless you count HoME, where one of the twins burned with the ships and was presumably reborn).

Yeah, that sounds plausible, so is it them?

Huinesoron 03-05-2020 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721530)
So he is connected to both the sword and the sea?

I can confirm that he is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721530)
I know Hurin perished in the sea and Turin perished by the sword, but not both. Tar-Miriel also perished in the sea, but she is not 'he'.

Perishing in the Sea is a good thought to follow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721530)
Feanor and Nerdanel could fit, except he never left any of their children with her (unless you count HoME, where one of the twins burned with the ships and was presumably reborn).

Yeah, that sounds plausible, so is it them?

Alas, it is not. (Even if I did count HoME, I'd assume Amrod-or-Amras was still a Kinslayer, and still under the Doom of Mandos, so not likely to be reborn for a long time.)

I'll mention that I've made a slight assumption, in that the speaker is not explicitly said to be alive at the time they would have to be speaking the riddle. (Nor are they in any way implied to be dead, and the timeline makes sense for them to be alive.)

hS

Urwen 03-05-2020 07:35 AM

Apart from Hurin and Zimraphel, the only one who perished in the sea is Amroth, and Nimrodel is implied to still be alive. But there is no child mentioned in their tale.

Urwen 03-05-2020 07:43 AM

Wait, the speaker might not be a person.....

Urwen 03-05-2020 07:45 AM

Maybe it's Nienor and Turin. I know that Turin took his own life with a sword, and later the sea swallowed Beleriand.....but Tol-Morwen remained, so that can't be it.

Huinesoron 03-05-2020 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721535)
Apart from Hurin and Zimraphel, the only one who perished in the sea is Amroth, and Nimrodel is implied to still be alive. But there is no child mentioned in their tale.

It's not, and you're not right about them being the only ones who died in the Sea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721536)
Wait, the speaker might not be a person.....

I can tell you that it is. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721538)
Maybe it's Nienor and Turin. I know that Turin took his own life with a sword, and later the sea swallowed Beleriand.....but Tol-Morwen remained, so that can't be it.

Nope. Bear in mind that 'I languish in the haven' has to be after 'I lost him to the Sea'.

hS


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