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Pervinca Took 04-11-2020 02:33 PM

OK, then:

Latinate am I
And one of four.
If Huan had devoured me
He'd have quickly reached death's door?

Urwen 04-11-2020 03:21 PM

It's a trick question. Huan can't die, except via Carcharoth.

Pervinca Took 04-11-2020 05:13 PM

That's why I used the conditional mood, and a question mark.

Galadriel55 04-11-2020 05:56 PM

First thought was literal poisons - eg Belladonna. But she is not one of four, and I don't remember hobbit family trees enough to thibk of one who is.

What things are in a set of four? Compass points? Farthings? Seasons? It's not a common Tolkien number.

It would have been interesting if bringing to death's door meant to physocally bring Huan to Thangorodrim or the Black Gate, but based on Pervinca's post above this sounds less likely.

Pervinca Took 04-12-2020 06:15 AM

You were fairly close with Belladonna.

Urwen 04-12-2020 08:10 AM

Spiders?

Pervinca Took 04-12-2020 08:13 AM

No.

Urwen 04-12-2020 08:36 AM

Found it. Primrose Boffin. She has three siblings and is named after a plant toxic to dogs.

Pervinca Took 04-12-2020 09:23 AM

Toxic to dogs is right, and it is a hobbit, but it isn't Primrose Boffin.

3 siblings is right too.

P.S. Besides, the Latin would be Primula! (vulgaris).

Urwen 04-12-2020 10:42 AM

Is it yourself, for the same reasons?

Pervinca Took 04-12-2020 10:55 AM

Pervinca is Latin, means dogsbane, and has 3 siblings.

Yes. :)

Urwen 04-12-2020 11:30 AM

Well, here is a cheeky one:

Three fathers, one mother
That's who I had
I also had a brother
Who is now dead

Daughter of mine
She stayed around
With remnant of line
In the past lost, now found.

Huinesoron 04-13-2020 01:28 PM

Okay, so... being a cheeky one, I guess the answer is not Elrond (the extra fathers being Maedhros and Maglor)?

How about Numenor itself? It came out of the three Houses of the Edain, so could be said to have three fathers (of the fathers of Men). And its daughter is Gondor, which hung around and eventually met up with Aragorn?

Or, indeed, are you Gondor - your brother being Arnor, your fathers being... Elendil, Isildur, and Anarion?

hS

Urwen 04-13-2020 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722370)
Okay, so... being a cheeky one, I guess the answer is not Elrond (the extra fathers being Maedhros and Maglor)?
hS

Oh, but it is. The Mr. Grumpypants himself. :smokin:

Huinesoron 04-14-2020 03:19 AM

Water claimed me,
Earth concealed me,
Wind carried me,
Fire consumed me.


hS

Urwen 04-14-2020 03:36 AM

Silmarils? One in earth and fire, one in water, one in the sky?

Huinesoron 04-14-2020 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722379)
Silmarils? One in earth and fire, one in water, one in the sky?

Nope. There is only one answer. :)

hS

Urwen 04-14-2020 03:59 AM

Hmmm.....I get One Ring vibes, and everything fits except the third line...

Huinesoron 04-14-2020 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722383)
Hmmm.....I get One Ring vibes, and everything fits except the third line...

It is the One Ring - which was carried eagleback when Bilbo needed rescuing from a bunch of goblins and wargs. :D

hS

Urwen 04-14-2020 07:34 AM

I just had an inspiration

Long ago was I made
To guard the dead
In the great flood
I went down with the world

I housed one
Of his, but with me
He found another
They're together forever

Urwen 04-20-2020 04:47 AM

Do you need hints?

Huinesoron 04-20-2020 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722457)
Do you need hints?

Umm. My first thought was something Numenorean, but I couldn't get it all to fit together.

That said... Tol Morwen? The main issue is that it's specifically not sunken, but other than that it fits: one of Hurin's family was buried there, and he found Morwen at the stone (and didn't freakin' answer her question, which has always bugged me).

hS

Urwen 04-20-2020 05:32 AM

Tol Morwen is close, but not quite there.

Huinesoron 04-20-2020 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722459)
Tol Morwen is close, but not quite there.

Oh. Ohhh. Is it the Ladybarrow? (Forgive me; Sindarin isn't my strong point.) Finduilas was buried there, which makes 'he' Turin... not sure who he found there, though?

hS

Urwen 04-20-2020 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722462)
Oh. Ohhh. Is it the Ladybarrow? (Forgive me; Sindarin isn't my strong point.) Finduilas was buried there, which makes 'he' Turin... not sure who he found there, though?

hS


*activates teaching mode* According to the tale, he found Niniel on the grave. *deactivates teaching mode*


You're up.

Huinesoron 04-21-2020 08:55 AM

I passed through one rainbow
To stand beside another.


Nice and short!

hS

Urwen 04-21-2020 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722527)
I passed through one rainbow
To stand beside another.


Nice and short!

hS


Tom Bombadil's jacket? :D:p

Huinesoron 04-21-2020 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722528)
Tom Bombadil's jacket? :D:p

Corr-- no, wait, not correct. :D

hS

Urwen 04-21-2020 09:22 AM

Okay, serious answer it is.

Tuor, passed through Rainbow Cleft and he stood beside Egalmoth at some point, probably.

Huinesoron 04-21-2020 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722531)
Okay, serious answer it is.

Tuor, passed through Rainbow Cleft and he stood beside Egalmoth at some point, probably.

That's the one. (And believe me, I considered using something from the Heavenly Arch for my password!)

hS

Urwen 04-21-2020 09:40 AM

Metal?

Urwen 04-21-2020 09:51 AM

Here is another short one

Blue like the sea
Blue like the sky
When you're around me
There's no reason to cry

Huinesoron 04-21-2020 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722534)
Here is another short one

Blue like the sea
Blue like the sky
When you're around me
There's no reason to cry

Definitely Bombadil's jacket. :cool:

hS

Urwen 04-21-2020 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722535)
Definitely Bombadil's jacket. :cool:

hS


Ring-a-ding-dillo.

Huinesoron 04-26-2020 07:13 AM

Okay, okay okay, let's try this:

What have roots nobody sees,
Far taller than trees,
Up, up, up they glow,
Yet fell long ago.


hS

Galadriel55 04-26-2020 08:31 AM

The Lamps of the Valar? Illuin and... what was the other one? Ormal?

Huinesoron 04-26-2020 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 722692)
The Lamps of the Valar? Illuin and... what was the other one? Ormal?

If I wanted to quibble, I could say no, and hold out for the pillars the Lamps were mounted on. But since they're only named in a very early and weird text, I'll allow this. :) (Besides, it was the answer I thought of when I wrote it!)

Over to you.

hS

Galadriel55 04-26-2020 10:18 AM

Thanks! Will have something up shortly. :)

Galadriel55 04-26-2020 03:17 PM

Happy riddling!


I was born in place up high
Near growth turned to dust, and steel to rust.
And long ahead my road did lie:
I passed the wall, I hid from all.

And many met me on my way:
The one that came by many caves,
The one that washed the grief away,
The one that's dead upon hard bed.

I always yearned towards the sea,
Till in the war I was no more.
But while I was, I lead with me
A helper great who aided fate.

Urwen 04-26-2020 05:04 PM

Tuor again?

I was born in place up high - Mountains of Mithrim
Near growth turned to dust, and steel to rust.
And long ahead my road did lie:
I passed the wall, I hid from all. - Found Gondolin and stayed there

And many met me on my way:
The one that came by many caves, - Gelmir or Arminas
The one that washed the grief away, - Ulmo
The one that's dead upon hard bed. - Turin or Turgon

I always yearned towards the sea,
Till in the war I was no more. - Left Beleriand with his wife
But while I was, I lead with me
A helper great who aided fate. - Voronwe


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