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Eruwen 12-30-2002 07:41 PM

Spoilers already...can you believe it?
 
Yes, somehow Tolkien Online has managed to get spoiler pics from ROTK already. They said it is possible that they might be from the Extended TTT, but it is very unlikely. The link to the 3 pics is <A HREF="http://www.tolkienonline.com/docs/8522.html" TARGET=_blank>here</A><P>Lol. I just love finding stuff like this. And beware...the spoilers have begun!

Manwe Sulimo 12-30-2002 07:50 PM

Ooooh...yes, my <I>precious</I>...they are starting to arrive...<I>gollum gollum</I>....

Arwen Evenstar the Fair 12-30-2002 08:54 PM

All I have to say, is... YAY!!!!!!!!! Bring on the spoilers!!! lol

Liriodendron 12-30-2002 09:46 PM

I'm ready! I used to be "anti-spoiler", but with the movies being different from the books, I need to be prepared! That one of Gollum with "The Precious" is CREEPY!

Galadrie1 12-30-2002 10:08 PM

That picture of "Gollum and his Precious" doesn't really look like Gollum....

PippinSqueak 12-30-2002 10:23 PM

Yes! Spoilers rule!..usually.

Maltagaerion 12-30-2002 10:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>That picture of "Gollum and his Precious" doesn't really look like Gollum.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Easily explained, they will probably be showing the decay of Smeagol and this pic is actually Gollum early on....before he lived under the Misty Mountains.

Nenya 12-31-2002 06:17 PM

Yay! Let's start the speculating!<BR>How did Merry, Pippin&Co. and up there? And in wich point of the movie is the scene going to be?

LePetitChoux 01-01-2003 06:49 AM

Maybe Merry ends up with Theoden after he comes to Meduseld

lindil 01-01-2003 09:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I'm ready! I used to be "anti-spoiler", but with the movies being different from the books, I need to be prepared! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>so true, I am glad I was not caught at unawares re: say the Elves at Helm's Deep.<P>I am hapy to remain unspoiled for something like say matrix 2and 3 [ even though my br-in-law works at the CG company doing the final shots of the 3rd film],or For Star Wars, but for LotR we already know what is supposed to happen!

Gorwingel 01-02-2003 12:55 AM

The Gollum ones look like they are from the extended DVD. Don't mind the spoilers, just because you never know exactly how it is going to turn out. I read every spoiler that I saw for TTT, and I was ver surprised about the actual movie, so I never mind them.

dunedain_aragorn 01-03-2003 03:44 PM

I think the Deagol n' Smeagol is in ttt, b/c they talk about it in the guide and show one of those pics.

eleanor_niphredil 01-03-2003 03:48 PM

I actualy have a series of 5 pics showing smegols tranformation into gollum, but I cant find it! Doh! Get it as soon as possible.

VanimaEdhel 01-03-2003 05:31 PM

They show the story of Smeagol and Deagol? Whoopeeeeee!

Galadrie1 01-03-2003 07:05 PM

There's actually the perfect spot for them to insert the story of Smeagol and Deagol in TTT. When they're in the Dead Marshes, Frodo talks about how Gollum was called Smeagol, and Gollum gets this far-away look in his eyes, and he says something like, "Yes... I was called Smeagol once." I was <I>sure</I> they were going to show it then (I'd seen spoiler pics of Smeagol and Deagol in a boat sometime this summer, so I thought it would be in TTT).

Arwen Imladris 03-18-2003 02:45 PM

In the most recent issue of the LOTR Fan Club Official Movie Magazine (Issue #7, Feb-March, 2003), there is an interview with Peter Jackson. He reveals an interested tidbit on the possible ending for ROTK! <P>In it he is asked from Steve Stone of Markham, Illinois:<P>*highlight to see spoilers!*<P>By now we all know that the "Scouring of the Shire" won't be in the films due to the fact that there can't be a second, lesser climax in the story after the larger events that take place. But please tell us if you are going to use the "Sailing away from Middle-Earth" ending, which would age the characters a year or two from their final battles in the films and provide a more fitting farewell to such well-loved characters?<P>The answer is "yes." <P>Also in the most recent issue of the LOTR Fan Club Official Movie Magazine (Issue #7, Feb-March, 2003), there is an interview with Daniel Reeve, a calligrapher for the movies. <P>When asked about how he went about creating Bilbo's journal, he talks a bit about training Ian Holm to do his "Concerning Hobbits" bit at the beginning of the FOTR extended DVD. He goes on to say,<P>"..., I had to train Elijah to write with his quill, too, and do his little bit in the journal."<P>Does this give us a little insight as to what events might appear at the end of ROTK? <P>That is it for now!

HCIsland 03-18-2003 04:40 PM

Thanks Arwen. That's a cool idea how you posted the spoilers.<P>H.C.

Arwen Evenstar the Fair 03-18-2003 06:35 PM

it didn't work for me

HCIsland 03-18-2003 08:22 PM

Just select over the black area. The text is there.<P>H.C.

Iarwain 03-18-2003 08:26 PM

Thanks for the spoilers, Arwen! It's good to know that the Havens will be included. <P><BR>Iarwain

Rochelle 03-18-2003 08:33 PM

I think those Deagol/Smeagol pictures are part of the extended TTT dvd. If you watch closely Gollum has a kinda "flashback" moment look in his eyes when Frodo mentions that his name was once Smeagol...I think that may be where a certain story plays out...I guess we'll see in November!

Birdland 03-19-2003 12:30 AM

Arwyn - Totally off topic, but what is the code for the totally cool "secret writing" effect you used to conceal the spoiler?<P>Oh, and I'm with the rest of you - the story of Smeagol/Deagol will be inserted in the Dead Marshes scene in the E.E. T.T.

Annunfuiniel 03-19-2003 02:33 AM

<A HREF="http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Fantasy/The_Lord_of_the_Rings/LOTR_The_Return_of_the_King&img=" TARGET=_blank>Here</A> should be some more Gollum/Smeagol pics (and Aragorn in his "bright and shining armor"! ).<p>[ March 19, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

HCIsland 03-19-2003 08:36 AM

Last night my wife and kids got to meet Billy Boyd as he was in our home town. They had a blast, but there was one little tidbit he threw out.<P>My wife mentioned what an excellent job Sean Bean did with Boromir and Billy said, then you are really going to enjoy the extended Two Towers DVD which has a Boromir scene.<P>He wouldn't elaberate, but our guess is there may be a Faramir flashback to when Denethor decided to send Boromir to Rivendell instead of Faramir. This actually makes sense because it would set up very nicely the relationship between these three characters for RoTK where there are some very powerful Faramir-Denethor scenes.<P>Either way, it sounds pretty cool. More Faramir, more Merry, Pippin and Treebeard. I like it already.<P>H.C.

Dark Shadow 03-19-2003 11:46 AM

You wouldn't happen to know anything about Prince Imrahil anyone? Just wondering you know...<P>Oh, and I'm glad to hear about another Boromir scene. I'll enjoy that. Personally, I thing they should have killed him at the begining of TTT, like in the books, so it'll be good to actually see Boromir in TTT.

Mornie Alantie 03-19-2003 11:54 AM

You want to see more? <P>C'mon Beg.................<P>Ok that may just be good enough............................................ .................................................. ..<P>Click <A HREF="http://www.ninecompanions.net/galleries/rotkgalleries/allpics_gallery_p1.html" TARGET=_blank>Here</A><P>Very Cool.

Mornie Alantie 03-19-2003 12:08 PM

Lets see if these pics turn up.<P> <P> <P>If these dont work Ill post the link<P>One is a picture of a man holding the horn of Gondor split in half(Most likely Faramir) and the other is A dead Oliphaunt.

Mornie Alantie 03-19-2003 12:13 PM

If you go to URL=http://http://www.ninecompanions.net/galleries/tttgalleries/other_gallery_p2.html]This[/URL] Page <P>there is a picture of a man holding the horn of Gondor split in half (Most likely Faramir)<BR>And a bunch of other cool pics.<P>Make sure you look at all 4 pages!!!! Its really cool!

Arwen Evenstar the Fair 03-19-2003 12:29 PM

Very Cool!!! Thanks!

HCIsland 03-19-2003 12:36 PM

1. Can anyone identify these soldiers?<P> <P>I think the one in the forground is enjoying a smoke break.<P>2. Who's this guy? Imrahil? If it is, it doesn't mean he has any lines. Afterall, Gil-galad is definately identifiable in the prologue. Imrahil may get the same treatment.<P> <P>3. Finally, this picture has made my day. <P> <P>H.C.

Mornie Alantie 03-19-2003 12:39 PM

Sorry let me repost that.<P><A HREF="http://www.ninecompanions.net/galleries/tttgalleries/other_gallery_p2.html" TARGET=_blank>web page</A>

Mornie Alantie 03-19-2003 12:42 PM

The first ones are just Rohan Soldiers, nothing special as far as I know.<P>Second one is wearing Gondorian armor, So I would assume that it is a general of the Gondorian soldiers, Imrahil would have a different type of Armor most likely than the Gondorian armor.<P>Third if your wondering, Merry and Pippin at the guardhouse in Isenguard. For you folks who did not read the books, they find a lot of "man food" as treebeard calls it.

Arwen Imladris 03-22-2003 04:23 PM

Birdland: To change the color of your text:<P> < Font color=blue>Hi there Birdland!< /font> <P>Exept without spaces between the < and F or < and /. I had to do that so that they would show up!<P>To make it "secret writing" type in black for the color.

HCIsland 03-23-2003 12:17 PM

These are from <A HREF="http://www.dailydigest.net/tttdeletedscenes.html" TARGET=_blank>here.</A><P>I hope these pictures come out and I apologize for them being small. I couldn't find larger ones.<P> <P>This is the text that was with the pictures at the site.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> The sewers of Osgiliath: The way the<BR>movie's cut now, Sam and Frodo go<BR>straight from Faramir releasing them to<BR>Gollum leading them through the woods.<BR>But a number of stills of "the Osgiliath<BR>sewers" were released, showing how<BR>Faramir helps them escape undetected. In<BR>fact, there's even a Topps card called "In<BR>the Osgiliath Sewers."<BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Since this seems to be most logically after they leave Osgiliath, I'm wondering if this will be an opportunity to get more of the Faramir we are used to from the books. I can see something like Faramir explaining how he was bring the Ring for his father and how he himself "not if I found it on the highway, would I take it." It may be a good opportunity for Sam's line, "you showed your quality: the very highest".<P>It may help to heal over some of the wounds Faramir fans have suffered in much the same way as the gift giving in the FoTR Special Edition gave a Galadriel we were more familiar with.

Aratlithiel 03-23-2003 12:40 PM

Oh, H.C. I DO love you! You always make me feel so much better about these movies! I wish you had a mailing list I could join - you always seem to have the scoop. Ext. DVD release is November, right?

Eruwen 03-23-2003 01:14 PM

I just found 2 more pictures from Ringzone.net<P>They look to be ROTK, but I'm not sure what scene they are from. <P> <P>The first, of Frodo and Sam looks strange because instead of Frodo looking mad and Sam having his "sad face" towards Frodo, it's vice versa. The only thing the picture link said was "frodosam_final". Does that mean it will be the end of ROTK?<P> <P>This second one really throws me though. Does anyone have any ideas at what this may be from? The site said it was one of the most recent pictures to come out.<BR> <BR>EDIT: sorry, that second picture was way too big. <p>[ March 23, 2003: Message edited by: Eruwen ]

HCIsland 03-23-2003 01:27 PM

That scene is promanently featured on the TTT preview that is packaged with the Special Edition FoTR. I have never been able to figure it out.<P>It's pretty though.<P>Editted to add:<P>Here's another pic from the same sight. Sorry for the size.<P> <P>This looks like Treebeard's home with entdraught running into a basin. What make me laugh is the figure in the forground, center right which looks like a headless Merry.<P>H.C.<p>[ March 23, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

Firondoiel 03-23-2003 01:43 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The first, of Frodo and Sam looks strange because instead of Frodo looking mad and Sam having his "sad face" towards Frodo, it's vice versa. The only thing the picture link said was "frodosam_final". Does that mean it will be the end of ROTK?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's a TTT poster. You can see it at <A HREF="http://shop.newline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=12003;category_id=2472;pcid 1=;pcid2=" TARGET=_blank>http://shop.newline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=12003;category_id=2472;pcid 1=;pcid2=</A>

HCIsland 03-23-2003 07:46 PM

This is one I just noticed. I was watching the second trailer that is packaged with the theatrical FoTR DVD. Towards the begining, there is a voice-over of Gandalf talking about Sauron as he is reaching into the hearth to pick up the wings with tongs. There is a quick flash of a series of shots featuring Sauron. You'll have to frame advance through them, but there is one of Sauron about to clobber a soldier with his mace with the eye banner behind him. It doesn't look like this shot is from the prologue and so lends support to the idea that Sauron is going to appear in physical form and kick some butt.<P>H.C.

Arwen Imladris 03-25-2003 03:40 PM

<A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1048554648" TARGET=_blank>Here</A> is a list of comments and reports from people who've seen or heard things in interviews and so on, which give a lot of clues to what will most likely be shown in the end of the ROTK.


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