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The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 10-14-2003 06:48 AM

Indeed it is. That was quick.

The Saucepan Man 10-14-2003 07:10 AM

Like answer, like solver. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Here's another:

Short elf lord has edge over standard elf.

The Saucepan Man 10-17-2003 06:45 PM

Surely it's not that difficult ...

Silmarien 10-20-2003 05:54 AM

Elrond?

The Saucepan Man 10-20-2003 11:07 AM

Nope, not Elrond. Think of another Elven Lord for the first, cryptic, part of the clue.

The answer is the name of another Elf, although I'm not sure that he was actually an Elven Lord.

Telchar 10-20-2003 11:14 AM

Earendil/Cirdan ?

Sleepy Ranger 10-20-2003 12:55 PM

Can I join in?
I think its Maeglin.

The Saucepan Man 10-21-2003 12:13 PM

No and no.

And in any event I am not accepting any answer which does not explain its reasoning ... [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Finwe 10-21-2003 01:35 PM

Gildor because he was the only one who had "-dor" in his name, whereas many other Elf lords had "Gil" in their name.

(I'm heavily dosed on allergy medication, so work with me. )

Turambar 10-21-2003 02:35 PM

I'm not getting what Saucepan means by "edge". [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Telchar 10-21-2003 03:21 PM

Ok I know that this is not it as Saucepans keeps saying 'he' and 'elflord', but its amazing how well it fits Arwen (halfelven) who has a 'swordedge' over Galadriel in Eomers mind [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]


I dont think Saucepans could mean Tuor over Maeglin, although Tuor did throw Maeglin over the edge of Caragdûr, as Tuor was never 'Halfelven' ???

[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Turambar 10-21-2003 07:31 PM

Telchar - you're interpreting short elf as "halfelven" but couldn't it also mean an elf lord with one or more letters removed?

The Saucepan Man 10-21-2003 08:11 PM

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I'm not getting what Saucepan means by "edge".
Think of another word for "edge".

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... but couldn't it also mean an elf lord with one or more letters removed?
It could indeed, Turambar. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Turambar 10-22-2003 07:43 AM

Synonyms for edge: border, brim, brink, fringe, hem, margin, perimeter, periphery, skirt, verge.

I'm guessing that "border" is the culprit.

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

The Saucepan Man 10-22-2003 07:58 AM

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Synonyms for edge: border, brim, brink, fringe, hem, margin, perimeter, periphery, skirt, verge.
Correct. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Turambar 10-22-2003 08:07 AM

You're in a [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] mood today!

OK, elf lords: Elwë or Thingol, Cirdan, Olwë, Elrond . . .

The Saucepan Man 10-22-2003 05:16 PM

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Elwë or Thingol, Cirdan, Olwë, Elrond . . .
Nope, none of those.

Hint: The word "standard" is an important clue to the identity of the Elf whose name is the answer to the question ...

The Saucepan Man 10-24-2003 09:29 PM

A "short" Elven Lord has (ie takes in) a synonym for "edge" to give a "standard" Elf.

Come on, I'm practically giving it away here. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Nuranar 10-28-2003 11:25 PM

Just stumbled across this and couldn't resist capitalizing on everyone else's hard work. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Celebrimbor.

Start with the Elven Lord Celeborn. Shorten by subtracting "n" and add "brim," a synonym for edge, and you have Celebrimbor.

Turambar 10-29-2003 07:46 AM

Thanks Nuranar, that one was driving me nuts.

The Saucepan Man 10-29-2003 08:42 AM

At last! Well done Nuranar, and it's good to see you here. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Standard Elf - geddit! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Nuranar 10-29-2003 06:40 PM

Good deal - glad I wasn't spoiling anyone's fun. But no - I still don't get "Standard Elf" - what's up with that? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] (A most humiliating confession to have to make, I assure you.)

This is my first attempt, so bear with me. I'm sure it's way too easy. (The only other possibility is that it's way too far-fetched...but that should only be an enticement to you champion cryptic clue-ers, eh? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img])

One of many between the evergreen and the Spanish main.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 10-31-2003 11:23 AM

Could it be Fíriel? One (i) between an evergreen (fir) and the usual Spanish word for 'the' (el).

Nuranar 10-31-2003 12:19 PM

Nope. Good guess, though...

Turambar 11-03-2003 10:16 AM

Firimar (elvish, mortals) http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon5.gif

Nuranar 11-03-2003 04:19 PM

Absolutely. Your turn! *tag* [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Turambar 11-06-2003 11:54 AM

With anger lessened, eat at the end point in the path.

The Saucepan Man 11-06-2003 03:58 PM

Anger lessened: Remove W from Wrath to get Rath
Eat: Dine
At end point: N (for North)

Giving Rath Dinen, the Street of Silence in Minas Tirith.

Turambar 11-06-2003 04:11 PM

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The Saucepan Man 11-11-2003 12:58 PM

Thank you Turambar. Sorry, folks, forgot about this one.

Next clue should be easy ...

Large fish from river grabbed diminutive adventurer

Finwe 11-11-2003 08:09 PM

Bilbo Baggins?

Nilpaurion Felagund 11-11-2003 11:03 PM

Smeagol?

Nilpaurion Felagund 11-12-2003 12:39 AM

No, wait. It must be Sharkey.

The Saucepan Man 11-12-2003 07:26 PM

Quote:

Bilbo Baggins?
Quote:

Smeagol?
Too literal.

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It must be Sharkey.
I can see where you are coming from, Nilpaurion, but that's not it.

Keep them coming. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Finwe 11-12-2003 07:42 PM

This just came to me, but could it be Aragorn?

The Saucepan Man 11-13-2003 07:29 AM

No, it couldn't. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Estanesse 11-13-2003 08:16 AM

is it Sam

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 11-13-2003 02:59 PM

Isengar Took?

The large fish is a gar, the river is the Isen and 'grabbed' means 'took', the whole being a diminutive seafaring adventurer.

Turambar 11-14-2003 07:55 AM

These are always so obvious. Once you're told the answer. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

The Saucepan Man 11-14-2003 08:46 AM

Spot on, Squatter. Fire away. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]


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