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Aganzir 05-13-2009 08:28 AM

Hurt and Heal VI: Weapons and Other Oddities
 
RULES

From 20 to 7 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts are allowed.

From 6 to 4 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts are not allowed: a player has to hurt 2 different characters and heal one, or he may use only 1 hurt and 1 heal.

When but 3 characters are left each player has either a hurt or a heal.

Wait for at least four posters to vote prior to you voting again.


So it's weapons now. What do you think - shall we include also armour? It might be necessary in case we want a list of 20.

I nominate
  • Aeglos
  • Grond (First Age)
  • Black Arrow
  • Anguirel
  • Anglachel

mormegil 05-13-2009 09:01 AM

I nominate:

Glamdring
Sting
The Dragon Helm
Narya
Nenya
Vilya
The One Ring

Lalaith 05-13-2009 11:09 AM

If we include armour,
Girdle of Melian
also
Belthronding (the black bow of Beleg)

How many seconds are we allowed? I like all of Morm's and Aganzir's ideas but maybe less rings?

Tuor in Gondolin 05-13-2009 12:24 PM

Nominate:

Aranruth

Grond I (Morgoth's)

Grond I to Aranruth (flicks cigar out of mouth)
"Did you get elected?"

Aranruth: "No, but I got nominated."

Legate of Amon Lanc 05-13-2009 12:29 PM

Second Black Arrow, Aeglos, Anguirel and Anglachel.

Is Girdle of Melian an item? I am not quite sure... :rolleyes:

mormegil 05-13-2009 01:31 PM

It is an oddity though so I feel it could/should count.

Nogrod 05-13-2009 01:36 PM

And Melian won the previous one already... :D

Gordis 05-13-2009 03:29 PM

I nominate
Morgul Blades,
Barrow-Downs blades and
Grond II

I second
Aranruth, Grond I and Glamdring

I feel Rings are out of place here, somehow. There are so SPECIAL....:D, they deserve a special game along with Silmarils, Palantiri and such like.

Nogrod 05-13-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis (Post 596511)
I feel Rings are out of place here, somehow. There are so SPECIAL....:D, they deserve a special game along with Silmarils, Palantiri and such like.

You meant to say "soo preciouss..." :)

But well, it all seems to come down now whether this will be a round for "weapons" or for "weapons and other oddities"? If it's the latter, we need to come up with a substantial number of other candidates than weapons.

Although I think that the One Ring being there would not be fair to other candidates...

Eönwë 05-13-2009 04:01 PM

I nominate:

Narsil
Anduril


And second:

The Barrow-blades

Eönwë 05-13-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis (Post 596511)
I feel Rings are out of place here, somehow. There are so SPECIAL....:D, they deserve a special game along with Silmarils, Palantiri and such like.

It's true.

Maybe this one should be weapons and armour, and later we could have another one such as powerful objects, e.g. Silmarils, rings, etc.

If we don't have the other one then I nominate:

Tom Bombadil's boots ;)

Tuor in Gondolin 05-13-2009 04:06 PM

For specialized weapons how about nominations of

Smaug's teeth

Dragon Fire

Smaug's hypnotic eyes

dragons seductive voices ?

Aganzir 05-13-2009 04:40 PM

I don't see a reason to limit the number of seconds, Lalaith. I trust people can control themselves enough not to misuse the voting power they've been given.

Given the number of weapons we have thus far, I think we could do with just weapons & armour on this round. Therefore I'm excluding stuff like the Girdle of Melian, Bombadil's boots (which, in my opinion, are rather other items than armour), the rings etc from the list. However if you think some of them should be included, speak up.

As for Tuor's dragon suggestions, I rather didn't take them because they are very different weapons from the rest. If there is considerable opposition to this, though, I may consider otherwise.

I second Belthronding & the Morgul blades and nominate Ringil & Angrist.

Oh by the way - do we want Anglachel, Gurthang or both?

Seconded weapons:
  • Grond (Morgoth's)
  • Black Arrow
  • Aeglos
  • Anguirel
  • Anglachel
  • Aranrúth
  • Glamdring
  • The Barrow-Blades
  • Belthronding
  • Morgul Blades

Pending for approval:
  • Sting
  • Grond II
  • Narsil
  • Andúril
  • The Dragon Helm
  • Ringil
  • Angrist

Gordis 05-14-2009 04:32 AM

I nominate Orcrist

Maybe we should consider Narsil/Anduril as one item?


By the way if we take all of the weapons in Aganzir's list, we almost have 20 and could already start;)

Aganzir 05-14-2009 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis
Maybe we should consider Narsil/Anduril as one item?

Yes, I think we could.

I added Dramborleg (Tuor's axe) and the Mithril shirt and changed Anglachel to Gurthang because the sword is probably better-known as the latter.

There are 19 now so we can get this rolling pretty soon. Hmm how about Thorin's oak branch? ;)

Seconded weapons:
  • Grond (Morgoth's)
  • Black Arrow
  • Aeglos
  • Anguirel
  • Gurthang
  • Aranrúth
  • Glamdring
  • The Barrow-Blades
  • Belthronding
  • Morgul Blades

Pending for approval:
  • Sting
  • Grond II
  • Andúril
  • The Dragon Helm
  • Ringil
  • Angrist
  • Orcrist
  • Dramborleg
  • Mithril Shirt

Tuor in Gondolin 05-14-2009 06:35 AM

Second Thorin Oakenshield's oakenshield

Nominate: Bandobras Took's club (fore!) :D

Gordis 05-14-2009 08:09 AM

I would second Narsil/Anduril

mormegil 05-14-2009 08:34 AM

I second Sting, Grond II, Angrist, Orcrist, and mirthirl shirt...I beg somebody to second the dragon helm...it's so awesome.

Kent2010 05-14-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil (Post 596577)
I second Sting, Grond II, Angrist, Orcrist, and mirthirl shirt...I beg somebody to second the dragon helm...it's so awesome.

Why didn't you just second it then? :p (Edit: nevermind you nominated it...fool of a Kent :rolleyes: )

I second the Dragon helm.

and nominate Saruman's explosives

Aganzir 05-14-2009 11:24 AM

Seconded weapons:
  • Grond I
  • Black Arrow
  • Aeglos
  • Anguirel
  • Gurthang
  • Aranrúth
  • Glamdring
  • The Barrow-Blades
  • Belthronding
  • The Morgul Blades
  • Thorin's oakenshield
  • Andúril
  • Sting
  • Grond II
  • Angrist
  • Orcrist
  • The Mithril Shirt
  • The Dragon Helm

Pending for approval:
  • Ringil
  • Dramborleg
  • Bandobras Took's club
  • Saruman's explosives

Two still needed. Come on doesn't anybody want Ringil? The great blade that made Morgoth limp for the rest of his life!

mormegil 05-14-2009 11:26 AM

I second Ringil and Dramborleg. Let's begin.

Aganzir 05-14-2009 11:32 AM

Off we go
 
Hurt Sting & the Mithril-shirt, heal Ringil.

Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (10)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (9)
Grond II (10)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (10)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

mormegil 05-14-2009 11:38 AM

Hurt barrow-blades and Morgul blades Heal Dragon Helm

Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (9)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (9)
Grond II (10)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Kent2010 05-14-2009 12:18 PM

After doing a favor with seconding Dragon Helm, I don't even get pay it forward with Saruman's explosives? :(

It shall now be my personal quest to not rest until Dragon Helm is destroyed. :smokin:

Double hurt The Dragon helm...ridiculous name anyway, everyone knows dragons can't wear helmets.

Heal morgul blades


Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (9)
Grond II (10)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (9)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

wilwarin538 05-14-2009 01:02 PM

Double Hurt The Barrow-Blades, heal Sting

Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (7)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (10)
Grond II (10)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (9)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Lalaith 05-14-2009 01:07 PM

After doing a favor with seconding Dragon Helm, I don't even get pay it forward with Saruman's explosives?

It shall now be my personal quest to not rest until Dragon Helm is destroyed.

Double-hurt Grond II (sequels are never as good)
Heal Dragon Helm. It's a family heirloom! :rolleyes:
Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (9)
Grond II (8)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (10)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)
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mormegil 05-14-2009 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kent2010 (Post 596586)
After doing a favor with seconding Dragon Helm, I don't even get pay it forward with Saruman's explosives?

It shall now be my personal quest to not rest until Dragon Helm is destroyed.

I was unaware you needed help. It is much easier to discern a person's wishes if he simply state them as I did. I suggest you learn the tactic :p:D. Now please, do not take my oversight out on the dragon helm. Think of all that it did and the terror it wrought upon it's enemies. None, save the one ring, brought more dread to their enemy than the dragon helm.

Heal Dragon Helm Hurt Sting and Sting

Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (7)
Grond II (8)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Tuor in Gondolin 05-14-2009 02:28 PM

Double Hurt Grond II Heal Grond I

Grond I (11)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (7)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Gordis 05-14-2009 02:47 PM

Double Hurt Sting Heal Morgul Blades

Grond I (11)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (10)
Sting (5)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Kent2010 05-14-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Now please, do not take my oversight out on the dragon helm. Think of all that it did and the terror it wrought upon it's enemies. None, save the one ring, brought more dread to their enemy than the dragon helm.
I am temporarily convinced. :D

Hurt Sting, there's no sense to have two blades that glow.
Hurt Anduril

Heal Anguirel

Grond I (11)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (11)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (9)
Sting (4)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Legate of Amon Lanc 05-15-2009 04:53 AM

Huh, there's so many of them that it's a mess... but I'll at least leave my mark a bit.

Double hurt Grond I (which seems overrated), heal (erm... repair) Black Arrow (which is probably the coolest of all this stuff, at least on first sight).

Grond I (9)
Black Arrow (11)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (11)
Gurthang (10)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (9)
Sting (4)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

And what the heck is Dramborleg anyway... it's seemingly Boromir's wooden leg which he used to hit his enemies while fighting for Osgiliath...

wilwarin538 05-15-2009 05:22 AM

Hurt Anguirel and Gurthang (hehe), heal Sting (common people, it glows!!!!)

Grond I (9)
Black Arrow (11)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (9)
Sting (5)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Tuor in Gondolin 05-15-2009 07:26 AM

Hurt Black Arrow Hurt The Morgul Blades Heal Grond I

Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (9)
Sting (5)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (9)
The Dragon Helm (11)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

mormegil 05-15-2009 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 596648)
(common people, it glows!!!!)

So does Glamdring and that is an actual sword as opposed to sting that is more of a dagger and therefore simply not as cool.


Double hurt Mithril Shirt Heal Dragon Helm

Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (9)
Sting (5)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (10)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (7)
The Dragon Helm (12)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Aganzir 05-15-2009 08:21 AM

Maybe I should've named Gurthang Mormegil instead... It would bring more amusement to this game. :smokin:

Double-hurt Andúril, heal Angrist.

Grond I (10)
Black Arrow (10)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (7)
Sting (5)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (11)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (7)
The Dragon Helm (12)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Legate of Amon Lanc 05-15-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil (Post 596660)
So does Glamdring and that is an actual sword as opposed to sting that is more of a dagger and therefore simply not as cool.

But that's what actually makes me like Sting more than some typical sword, you have hundreds of swords, even glowing ones. A glowing dagger? Interesting.

Double damage Grond I, repair Black Arrow.

Grond I (8)
Black Arrow (11)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (10)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (7)
Sting (5)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (11)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (7)
The Dragon Helm (12)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Gordis 05-15-2009 03:31 PM

Double hurt Sting, repair Morgul daggers.

Grond I (8)
Black Arrow (11)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (7)
Sting (3)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (11)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (7)
The Dragon Helm (12)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

Tuor in Gondolin 05-15-2009 03:36 PM

Double Hurt Black Arrow Heal Grond I

Grond I (9)
Black Arrow (9)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (7)
Sting (3)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (11)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (7)
The Dragon Helm (12)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

wilwarin538 05-15-2009 04:12 PM

Double Hurt Grond I Heal Mitril Shirt

Grond I (7)
Black Arrow (9)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (7)
Sting (3)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (11)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (8)
The Dragon Helm (12)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)

mormegil 05-15-2009 04:43 PM

On a silver platter
 
Hurt Sting and Mithril Shirt Heal Dragon Helm

Grond I (7)
Black Arrow (9)
Aeglos (10)
Anguirel (10)
Gurthang (9)
Aranrúth (10)
Glamdring (10)
The Barrow-Blades (9)
Belthronding (10)
The Morgul Blades (11)
Thorin's Oakenshield (10)
Andúril (7)
Sting (2)
Grond II (6)
Angrist (11)
Orcrist (10)
The Mithril-Shirt (7)
The Dragon Helm (13)
Ringil (11)
Dramborleg (10)


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