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LePetitChoux 01-26-2004 02:04 PM

Verbal Reasoning!
This is something that is on most British schools' entrance exams, and I thought it would be interesting to give it a nice Tolkien Twist.
The idea is very simple - you relate two words to one another, and then give the beginning of a second pair, so that the intended audience may complete it.

A really easy one would be:
Dog is to Puppy as
Cat is to ____________________

Now we all know the answer would be "Kitten" (don't we?), but the Tolkien version could perhaps be more difficult, as most characters and things and places have more than one relationship...if you know what I mean. (The above would be more difficult if Dog was also an anagram of puppy, the place where the puppy was born, etc.)

If I didn't just waffle on and write complete nonsense, and you actually understood what I mean, then have a go at this niiice and easy one:
Arwen is to Elrond as
Éowyn is to ___________
You must explain why you filled in the blank in the way you did. We can't go arund guessing now, can we?
Also, if there are any more VR-style questions, you can post those up as well, provided you explain how they work.


Hama Of The Riddermark 01-26-2004 02:10 PM


Because he is her (adopted) father...

Elrond is Arwen's real father...

Is the link close enough?

Firefoot 01-26-2004 02:37 PM

Eomund because he is Eowyn's father. Elrond is Arwen's father.

Arestevana 01-26-2004 02:38 PM

I will guess Eomund: Arwen is Elrond's daughter, Eowyn is the daughter of Eomund.

Ah... Crossposts. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 3:39 PM January 26, 2004: Message edited by: Arestevana ]

LePetitChoux 01-27-2004 01:36 PM

I was in fact thinking of Eomund.

So Firefoot gets it.


Firefoot 01-27-2004 03:15 PM

Thanks, LePetitChoux!

Okay, here's mine:
Gandalf is to Shadowfax as
Aragorn is to ____________

Arestevana 01-27-2004 04:54 PM

My answer is Hasufel.

Shadowfax was a horse given to Gandalf, and Hasufel was a horse given to Aragorn.

Firefoot 01-27-2004 04:58 PM

Not quite...

Happy 100th post to me!!

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 5:59 PM January 27, 2004: Message edited by: Firefoot ]

Gil-Galad 01-27-2004 06:07 PM

well shadowfax has been gandalfs greatest friend, so i would say either Legolas or Gimli

Firefoot 01-27-2004 06:23 PM


Finwe 01-27-2004 07:43 PM

Roheryn, because Gandalf rides Shadowfax, and Aragorn rides Roheryn.

Firefoot 01-27-2004 08:19 PM

Yes! Finwe has it.

Arwen_Evenstar 01-28-2004 03:52 AM

Oooh, interesting thread...sounds like fun! C'mon, post!

Finwe 01-28-2004 07:33 PM


Fram is to Scatha


Theoden is to...

Nilpaurion Felagund 01-28-2004 07:39 PM

The Haradrim leader? Because Fram slew Scatha, and Théoden slew the Haradrim cavalry commander? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Firefoot 01-28-2004 08:12 PM

The Fell Beast? My reason is the same as Nilpaurion's.

Eorl of Rohan 01-28-2004 10:55 PM

My guess is snowmane, Theoden's horse.

Snowmane was Theoden's bane after all.

Finwe 01-29-2004 11:24 AM

Nilpaurion has it. It is the leader of the Haradrim cavalry.

Nilpaurion Felagund 01-29-2004 09:18 PM

Frodo is to Finrod


_____ is to Théoden.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 10:21 PM January 29, 2004: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

The Saucepan Man 01-30-2004 03:28 AM


Frodo brought about the destruction of Sauron, who killed Finrod.

Eowyn brought about the destruction of Theoden's killer, the Witch King.

NightKnight 02-08-2004 10:16 AM

Nilpaurion? *Pokes*

The Saucepan Man 02-18-2004 12:06 PM

*Pokes Nilpaurion again*

Nilpaurion - you there?

Nilpaurion Felagund 02-19-2004 12:19 AM

NightKnight: Nilpaurion? *Pokes*

Nilpaurion: Zzzzz...

The Saucepan Man: *Pokes Nilpaurion again* Nilpaurion - you there?

Nilpauiron: Huh? Oh, sorry. The Saucepan Man is correct.

The Saucepan Man 02-19-2004 06:19 AM

Nilpaurion, please clear your PM box.

Nilpaurion Felagund 02-19-2004 08:41 PM

You and your bloody silliness! You'll get us both killed!

Hey, I said I'm sorry. :(

The Saucepan Man 02-21-2004 05:55 AM

OK, a different kind of verbal reasoning question.

Give the next two names in this sequence:

Thorin, Aragorn, Ori, Boromir, Oin, Frodo, Nori, Gandalf, Kili, …

Evisse the Blue 02-21-2004 06:06 AM

Cool one!
Here's my attempt:
Thorin, Aragorn, Ori, Boromir, Oin, Frodo, Nori, Gandalf, Kili, Gimli (alphabetically, next from the Fellowship - Thorin & co are in reverse alphabetical-)

NightKnight 02-21-2004 07:28 AM


Give the next two names in this sequence:
So you will also need a Gloin.

Evisse the Blue 02-21-2004 10:31 AM


So you will also need a Gloin.
You're right. Serves me right for not paying attention. :rolleyes:

Samwise 02-21-2004 06:44 PM

WOW. Definitely confusing, that one. :confused: :eek: :confused:

The Saucepan Man 02-21-2004 09:42 PM

Hmm ... Evisse or NightKnight?
Well, since Evisse solved the key to the puzzle, but NightKnight provided the full answer, I suppose either of you can go next. Depends who gets back here first ... ;)

NightKnight 02-22-2004 06:52 AM

And that would be me. :D

An easy one:
Hador is to Turin as
Turgon the Steward is to ______

Miriel 02-22-2004 11:48 AM

Really confused myself by examining the wrong Túrin and Hador ... but I think this should be Túrin II, Turgon's father?

Firefoot 02-22-2004 12:07 PM

I think it could be either Boromir or Faramir.

NightKnight 02-22-2004 01:22 PM


You must explain why you filled in the blank in the way you did. We can't go arund guessing now, can we?

symestreem 02-24-2004 11:14 AM

NightKnight, there were two Hadors and three Turins, so could you elaborate a bit? It could be either Boromir or Faramir, or Turin II. Both answers have been given before. Actually, it could also be Barahir's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild, but somehow I don't think that's the answer you're looking for. ;)

Firefoot 02-24-2004 07:31 PM

I would say Boromir or Faramir because Hador is Turin's great-grandfather and Turgon the Steward is Boromir's/Faramir's great grandfather.

NightKnight 02-25-2004 03:28 AM

Firefoot is correct.

Firefoot 02-25-2004 06:21 AM

River Sirion is to Doriath
as The Forest River is to _________

Thorongil 02-25-2004 06:43 AM

Probably Mirkwood. Sirion runs through Doriath and The Forest River runs through Mirkwood.

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