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Gil-Galad 07-21-2005 05:43 PM

Glaurang is to Nargothrond as Ancalgon is to _____________

Celebriel Esgaledhel 07-22-2005 03:18 PM

Well, Glaurung led an assault upon Nargothrond and Ancalagon was loosed against the Valar near the end of the War of Wrath..

Also, Glaurung destroyed Nargothrond, and Ancalagon destroyed Thangorodrim as he fell from the sky, so my guess would be: Thangorodrim

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-14-2005 01:35 AM

*bump*
 
Gil-galad?

Gil-Galad 08-14-2005 12:32 PM

aye that is correct...as far as i remember it...

Beanamir of Gondor 09-19-2005 01:22 PM

Calling a thirty-six day limit on Gildor!! =D

In the pathetic spirit of keeping my favorite Quiz Room thread alive,

Saradoc Brandybuck is to Fatty Bolger
as
Denethor is to _______________

Eowyn Wenhamir 09-29-2005 09:42 PM

Saradoc's son married Fatty's sister, and Denethor's son married Eomer's sister.

*discoes*

Beanamir of Gondor 10-13-2005 09:40 PM

Thank you!
Your turn.

Nilpaurion Felagund 02-15-2006 05:27 AM

*snatch*
 
______ is to Aragorn

as

Sauron is to Frodo.

Beanamir of Gondor 03-03-2006 08:45 PM

I say Denethor, because he feels threatened by Aragorn, just as Sauron feels... threathened by.... Frodo? :-/

Hookbill the Goomba 03-04-2006 01:38 AM

Gondor? They are looking for him, (Or rather, any king) just as Sauron is looking for Frodo (or rather, the Ring)...

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-05-2006 02:49 AM

Sorry.
 
Both wrong. This angle is a bit unorthodox.

Farael 03-05-2006 03:08 AM

Let's go on a limb here... and maybe taking up the hint that it's an unorthodox question.... I Will say that Sauron is to Aragorn as Sauron is to Frodo. To put it simply, Sauron is the main foe of both Aragorn and Frodo, and each of them defeated Sauron in their own way. Either on the battle field or the destruction of the Ring.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-05-2006 03:20 AM

Try again.
 
Not that easy. ;)

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-15-2006 03:23 AM

A clue!
 
Think 'material things.' ;) :cool:

JennyHallu 03-15-2006 08:22 AM

I feel smart, will it last?
 
Barahir

Aragorn bears the Ring of Barahir, and Frodo bears the Ring of Sauron.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-15-2006 08:43 AM

Very close.
 
But no. Think 'original owner of material things.' ;) :cool:

JennyHallu 03-15-2006 08:45 AM

*sigh*
 
Finrod Felegund?

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-15-2006 08:51 AM

Capital.
 
The floor is yours. :)

JennyHallu 03-15-2006 09:22 AM

Here goes...
 
__________ is to Ëol

as

Aragorn is to Telchar

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-15-2006 09:40 AM

Tûrin; sword-owners and swordmakers.

JennyHallu 03-15-2006 09:45 AM

Actually, the answer I had in mind was Beleg, but I'm going to accept yours, because both Turin's and Aragorn's blades were remade by someone else before they used them (Telchar forged Narsil, which was reforged into Anduril, and Eol forged Anglachel, which was reforged into Gurthang).


By which verbosity I mean "Your thread, Nilp!"

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-15-2006 10:03 AM

:D

______ is to Samwise

as

Túrin is to Húrin.

Nota bene: I will not accept the correct answer unless accompanied by the correct reason. Caveat.

paavo 03-15-2006 11:36 AM

always such a bully.. :p
 
The correct answer is Andwise who is, as Turin is to Hurin, almost a namesake with Samwise. There, there's your reason. :p

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-15-2006 06:16 PM

Oooh.
 
That's interesting . . .

But wrong. :p

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-19-2006 03:48 AM

A hint might be in order.
 
Think Genetics. ;)

Celuien 03-28-2006 06:42 PM

Elanor?

Elanor and Turin are the eldest children of Samwise and Hurin, respectively.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-30-2006 08:34 PM

Right answer, but wrong reasoning.
 
Find something closer to Genetics, like recessive genes. ;)

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-13-2006 04:55 AM

A clue!
 
Hair colour.

Celuien 06-13-2006 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund
Hair colour.

Hmm. Elanor was golden haired. But I thought Turin, Hurin and Morwen were all dark-haired.

The golden hair would be recessive (well, actually, it's more complicated than that :p), but the dark hair wouldn't be. Though if we're talking about recessive traits, Turin did have grey eyes, which I guess were more Elven than human, like Elanor's hair was more like the Vanyar than Hobbits...

Just thinking out loud.

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-13-2006 09:42 PM

. . .
 
Húrin is of the line of Hador Lórindol (Goldenhead). He has golden hair. So does his daughter, Níniel.

On the other hand, his wife, Morwen, is of the House of Bëor, which has dark-coloured hair. So does Túrin. So, Túrin did not inherit his father's hair colour.

Elanor was golden-haired, while Sam and Rosie both had dark-coloured hair. So, Elanor did not inherit her father's (and mother's) hair colour.

I've been too nitpicky long enough, so the thread is yours. :)

Celuien 06-14-2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund
Húrin is of the line of Hador Lórindol (Goldenhead). He has golden hair. So does his daughter, Níniel.

Learn something new all the time. :)

Anyway, I wasn't expecting to have the thread, so I don't have a clue just now. I'll add one in a few hours...

Celuien 06-14-2006 05:11 PM

Okay, here goes...

The first pair is the opposite of the second pair.

Eärendil (star) : The Elessar
____________ : The Valacirca


I think that works. Have fun! :)

Celuien 06-25-2006 06:42 PM

Hmm. Want a hint?

I guess so:

Hint: The things in each pair are referred to in the text as the same type of symbol, though not necessarily to the same group of people/being. The first pair is the opposite type of symbol as the second pair.

Hopefully, that was both ambiguous enough to maintain the mystery of the clue and non-ambiguous enough to be some help. :)

Gil-Galad 06-25-2006 07:24 PM

well the first pair brought hope while valacrica brought fear...

Menelvagor ??

Celuien 06-25-2006 07:28 PM

Good thought, but not what I was looking for.

Hope is the correct connection for the first pair.
Fear isn't the one I was thinking about for the second, though you're very close. ;)

EDIT: I thought of another hint, but I'm going to hold off on it for now. So there.

Celuien 06-26-2006 01:23 PM

Hint the second:

Reverse mood for the second set. ;)

Celuien 06-30-2006 08:14 AM

And hint the third:

Both pairs contain one article of jewelry and one thing that appears in the sky. Though I switched the order of their appearance in the pairs. The sets are opposites, after all. Or as close to opposite as I could make them. :p

Probably gave away the answer with that clue.

Mettare 07-03-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Reverse mood for the second set.
The opposite of hope should be despair. But I wouldn't think that the Valacirce brought despair. Of course, it might have brought despair to the evil side.

Quote:

Both pairs contain one article of jewelry and one thing that appears in the sky. Though I switched the order of their appearance in the pairs. The sets are opposites, after all. Or as close to opposite as I could make them.
OK, I'm going to guess the missing piece of jewelry is the One Ring. Because, as the Valacirca kind of signalled the downfall of Morgoth, the One Ring destroyed Sauron in the end.

Bad guess, I know. :rolleyes:

Celuien 07-03-2006 02:51 PM

The One Ring is the correct answer!
Quote:

“Seek for the Sword that was broken:
In Imladris it dwells;
There shall be counsels taken
Stronger than Morgul-spells.
There shall be shown a token
That Doom is near at hand,
For Isildur's Bane shall waken,
And the Halfling forth shall stand.”
So the Ring was directly referenced as a token of Doom...at least if that's how you read the poem. ;)

And if you reverse the letters in mood you get...doom.

Clue might have been a bit off. But you got it. Thread is yours. :)

Mettare 07-04-2006 04:55 PM

:)

Eithel Ivrin is to Gwindor

as

________ is to Sam


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