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Joy 03-27-2002 11:57 PM

6 Degrees of Separation
 
I am reviving an old topic originally posted by the BarrowWright.

Here are his rules:
Quote:

This one might be stupid ...we'll see ... but it was inspired by the Kevin Bacon game (if you don't know it, it doesn't matter).

The rules are:
Two names are given. You must trace a connection from the first name, through various other names, to the second name. When tracing from one name to another there must have been interaction or implied interaction in the novels between the two charcters. Also, a link can me made between names if the two characters are immediately related to each other (child, parent, spouse).

Example 1:
Frodo -- Grishnakh
The answer would be:
Frodo -- Pippin (or Merry) -- Grishnakh
direct interection in all links

Frodo -- Mauhur
The answer would be:
Frodo -- Pippin (or Merry) -- Ugluk --- Mauhur
direct -- dirrect -- direct -- indirect

Example 3:
Legolas -- Bard
The answer would be:
Legolas -- Thranduil -- Bard
related -- direct intereaction


OK... with all this in mind, I'm going to ask the first question in a reply to this message. Remember... to trace from a name to a name they must have interacted, most likely interacted, or be related to each other.

NOTE: There may be more than one answer. When creating a puzzle, try to make it so there is only one way to trace between the two names. This will be tricky.

ANOTHER NOTE: Someone like Eru is not a valid link unless we are linking Valar or something. And then Eru wouldn't be necessary since the Valar all knew each other well.

YET ANOTHER NOTE: Ask for a maximum number of links to trace the difference between two characters. For instance, in the Frodo to Mauhur example you would have to figure it out using no more than 3 links. See 6 degrees of Middle-Earth - #2 for the first question limiting the number of links that can be used.
Extra Note: Try not to use Gandalf, Saurman,or Sauron if it can be helped. These people have a link to just about everybody.

[ March 28, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ]

Joy 03-28-2002 12:01 AM

Okay, here is the first question:

Ted Sandyman ----> Haldir

Voronwe 03-28-2002 06:37 AM

Ted Sandyman -- Sam -- Haldir

Joy 03-28-2002 08:20 AM

Very good Voronwe

Voronwe 03-28-2002 04:40 PM

Here is one that might a little bit trickier:

Theoden --> Glaurung

Bruce MacCulloch 03-28-2002 10:41 PM

Thoden--Aragorn--Elrond--Erendil--Tuor--Huor--Hrin--Trin--Glaurung

or

Thoden--Aragorn--Galadriel--Orodreth--Finduilas--Glaurung

I'm sure there are many other possible ones, that's just what was in my mind immediately.

Joy 03-30-2002 08:14 PM

Bruce, both of those are good answers, but remeber, it is 6 degrees of separation. There can be only 5 answers to the final person.


Theoden --> Glaurung

Bruce MacCulloch 03-30-2002 08:23 PM

Theoden--Gandalf--Sauron--Morgoth--Glaurung

Joy 03-30-2002 08:43 PM

I knew you could come up with something Bruce! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch 03-31-2002 12:31 AM

Bilbo Baggins --> Ancalim

Joy 03-31-2002 01:29 AM

Bilbo -> Frodo -> Galadriel -> Aldarion -> Ancalim

Bruce MacCulloch 03-31-2002 02:28 AM

All yours, Joy!

Joy 03-31-2002 02:22 PM

Rose Cotton --> Elw

[ March 31, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ]

[ March 31, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ]

Telchar 03-31-2002 02:31 PM

Heh - I havent tried this before [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
Here goes nothing:
Btw must it be the shortest way???
Rose - Frodo - Elrond - Celegorm - Elwe ???

or for certain

Rose - Frodo - Elrond - Elwing - Dior - Luthien - Elw

- fun - heheh

Joy 03-31-2002 02:40 PM

Rose - Frodo - Elrond - Celegorm - Elwe

This is correct. Though I was thinking Rose -> Sam.

Telchar - it is 6 degrees of separation. There can be only 5 answers to the final person. So yes, the shortest answer wins.

Telchar 04-01-2002 11:02 AM

OK I'll try one

Sauron ---> Miriel

Elenhin 04-01-2002 11:11 AM

Sauron -> Finrod -> Finarfin -> Feanor -> Miriel

Bruce MacCulloch 04-02-2002 12:15 AM

Heh - Even shorter:
Sauron-->Morgoth-->Fanor-->Miriel

Telchar 04-02-2002 01:18 AM

Yes Bruce is correct! When I thought of it, my mind was set on S - Celebrimbor - G - F - M, when I had posted I looked at it the other way around - only difference was that I used Finwe instreat of Feanor. Well go on Bruce, these are a fresh breath of air ... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch 04-02-2002 01:51 AM

Durin --> Gimli

Telchar 04-02-2002 08:04 AM

Durin - Aul - Olorin - Gimli

Bruce MacCulloch 04-02-2002 03:58 PM

I suppose that's close enough that I should give it to you. http://www.plauder-smilies.de/yellows/twirl.gif

Telchar 04-03-2002 08:44 AM

Tar-Miriel ----> Barahir

Turambar 04-03-2002 02:52 PM

Barahir --> Finrod (ring) --> Sauron (Tol in Gaurhoth) --> Pharazon (counselor) --> Tar Miriel

Nefwathiel Teleri 04-03-2002 07:09 PM

This is cool. I wanna try. OK, heere goes nothin'

Glaurung->Iluvatar.

Its easy, I know. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch 04-03-2002 10:40 PM

Nefwathiel, a note about the 'rules' of the Quiz Room. If you look at the header for the Quiz Room, you will see:
Quote:

Ask a trivia question about Middle-Earth. The first person to get it right continues the thread with a new question.

Telchar 04-04-2002 06:16 AM

Turambar is correct [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

(but I did have Gorlim insteat of Finrod)

Proceed please...

Turambar 04-04-2002 07:09 AM

Let's see - how about:

Ingw ---> Idril

Voronwe 04-04-2002 09:40 AM

Ingw - > Finw - > Fingolfin - > Turgon -> Idril

Or maybe even just Ingw - > Manw - > Earendil - > Idril

Telchar 04-05-2002 07:21 AM

Another 4-way could be
Ingw - Thingol - Hurin - Idril -...

Voronwe 04-05-2002 05:33 PM

Ingw might even have met Idril. At least they probably would have seen one another.

Telchar 04-05-2002 07:03 PM

Actually yes Voronwe - nice point! She had to be born in Valinor! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Voronwe 04-06-2002 08:27 AM

Ok, next one:

Halbarad -> Fingon

Telchar 04-07-2002 07:20 AM

Halbarad - Aragorn - elrond - Gil-galad - Fingon

... According to SILM! BtW maybe you can leave out Aragorn? or change him to either Elladan or Elrohir.

Another fun direction would be assuming that Halbarad meet Glorfindel at Rivendell, and there by cut it down to 4 seps:

Halbarad - Glorfindel - Turgon - Fingon

[ April 07, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Voronwe 04-07-2002 08:51 AM

Quite correct. It would also be possible to use Galadriel for the First-age connection.

Ask away.

Telchar 04-13-2002 04:32 AM

Voronwe ---> Merry

Turambar 04-14-2002 08:07 AM

Well - Voronw - Tuor - Earendil - Elros - Elessar - Merry, but there may be a shorter route.

Regarding Ingw --> I was thinking of Indis as the link to Fingolfin - didn't think of the others. http://www.plauder-smilies.de/kopfpatsch.gif

[ April 14, 2002: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Telchar 04-15-2002 12:18 AM

I can get it to at least 6 degrees... and I guess that a 5-way can be found so...

Mat_Heathertoes 04-15-2002 02:42 AM

Voronw - Tuor - Earendil - Elrond - Merry ?

Telchar 04-15-2002 02:52 AM

Exactly Mat - well done as ever!


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