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nobody 01-01-2004 04:03 PM

Dior?

symestreem 01-01-2004 05:23 PM

Oops, sorry, meant paternal grandmother. Sorry, Nobody.

Luthien_ Tinuviel 01-01-2004 05:49 PM

Got it! Maeglin, right?

symestreem 01-01-2004 09:32 PM

Yes, Luthien_Tinuviel, it is Maeglor. Your turn.

Luthien_ Tinuviel 01-02-2004 04:28 PM

Okay, how about Pippin's paternal great-grandfather's sister's great-grandson (it's actually not that hard).

Carlas 01-02-2004 07:15 PM

Would that be Pippin...or am i not thinking straight?

Lord of Angmar 01-02-2004 09:13 PM

Close, Carlas. That would work if it was Pippin's paternal great-grandfather's wife's great-grandson. I believe (though I am not quite sure I remember) that the answer you are looking for is good ol' Fredegar "Fatty" Bolger, the Hobbit Left Behind.

Carlas 01-02-2004 10:43 PM

Oh, right! Well missed that one, but all the grand-these and grand-thats can be quite confusing. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lord of Angmar 01-02-2004 11:40 PM

Indeed they can! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I can usually make no sense of the long Hobbit family trees in the Appendices of The Lord of the Rings, at least not without my reading glasses and more than a few minutes to spare.

Luthien_ Tinuviel 01-04-2004 04:22 PM

Ah, the good old hobbit family trees. Maybe it is harder than I thought.... I used an internet resource, and didn't realize that the needed info is probably on two separate trees. So, I'll give a hint, which is the fact that the paternal great-grandfather is Hildigrim Took, and the sister I'm looking for is Mirabella Took. You may need to use both the Took and Brandybuck trees. No one has it yet.

Evisse the Blue 01-04-2004 04:41 PM

It's Merry!

Luthien_ Tinuviel 01-05-2004 05:23 AM

Right you are, Evisse. It's a little known fact that Merry and Pippin were third cousins as well as first cousins (on different sides of their families, of course).

Evisse the Blue 01-09-2004 09:02 AM

What is Elfwine to Morwen?

Elrond of Rivendell 01-09-2004 09:16 AM

I suppose and hope you mean Morwen of Lossarnach, if not this will become really embarrassing. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
So here we go:
Morwen's daughter (together with Thengel) was Théodwyn, whose son (together with Éomund) was Éomer. Finally, Elfwine was Éomer's son, which makes Morwen the great-grandmother of Elfwine.
Greetings,
EfR

Evisse the Blue 01-12-2004 12:59 AM

You're correct, as you undoubtedly know! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Elrond of Rivendell 01-12-2004 04:02 AM

Okay here we go:
What was Elentir to Elendil?
Greetings,
EfR

NightKnight 01-12-2004 10:52 AM

Elentir was Elendil's uncle.

Elrond of Rivendell 01-12-2004 11:43 AM

This is correct. Please proceed NightKnight.
Greetings,
EfR

NightKnight 01-16-2004 03:16 PM

What was Thorin Oakenshield to Borin?

Firefoot 01-16-2004 05:05 PM

Thorin was Borin's great-great-nephew.

NightKnight 01-17-2004 08:28 AM

He was indeed. Please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Firefoot 01-17-2004 09:11 AM

Thank you.

How were Merry and Frodo related?

symestreem 01-17-2004 02:05 PM

Merry's grandfather Rorimac was Frodo's uncle, because he was Frodo's mother Primula's brother. I think this would make Frodo Merry's first cousin, once removed.

Firefoot 01-17-2004 03:29 PM

That's half of it. They're related in two ways.

symestreem 01-17-2004 03:48 PM

Hmm... Frodo's great-uncle is Merry's great-grandfather? That would make them... I have no idea.

Firefoot 01-21-2004 05:39 PM

Sorry it took so long to get back to you, symestreem... I didn't realize that you had posted. Hmm, I'm not sure what that would make them. I didn't see that one. That relation also affects the other one I was looking at and makes them even more closely related than I thought. I was going back to Balbo and Berylla Baggins which would make them third cousins once removed but that changes it...I don't know how. So you can go ahead and ask the next question.

symestreem 01-21-2004 06:25 PM

Please detail the relationship between Ar-Pharazon and his wife.

Elrond of Rivendell 01-21-2004 06:51 PM

Ar-Pharazon's wife was Tar-Miriel (Ar-Zimraphel). She was born the daughter of king Tar-Palantir.
Ar-Pharazon was Tar-Palantir's nephew, being the son of his brother Gimilzhad.
Ar-Pharazon usurps the throne of Numenor by marrying his (first) cousin.

symestreem 01-22-2004 04:22 PM

Yes.

Elrond of Rivendell 01-22-2004 04:57 PM

Name at least 5 (first cousins) of Bilbo Baggins!

EfR

Ruitha 01-30-2004 11:32 AM

Um, right, uh...
Sigismond, Flambard, Adalgrim, Fortinbras II, Otho Sackville-Baggins, Odo Proudfoot, Falco Chubb-Baggins...?

luthien-elvenprincess 02-06-2004 09:48 PM

Five of Frodo's first cousins:
Milo Burrows, Seredic Brandybuck
Saradoc Brandbuck, Merimac Brandybuck,
Daisy Baggins.

Evisse the Blue 02-16-2004 02:37 PM

It's been ten days so I'll take the liberty of posting a new one:

Whose wife is also his aunt? (there are at least two instances of this kind).

The Perky Ent 02-16-2004 08:00 PM

MAN! That's a tuffy! I can't think of one! altough it's probably obvious, can i get a hint?

Evisse the Blue 02-17-2004 02:06 AM

okay, a hint: they are of Elven descend.

nobody 02-17-2004 11:32 AM

Is it Elrond?

Evisse the Blue 02-17-2004 12:17 PM

Correct, nobody. Elrond married Celebrian who was also his aunt. The other instance is his father Earendil.

nobody 02-18-2004 06:34 AM

Which elf's brother was also his great-great-great-granddaughter's grandfather?

Evisse the Blue 02-21-2004 05:50 AM

Could you give a hint, nobody?

NightKnight 02-21-2004 07:33 AM

Fingolfin, the brother of Finarfin?


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