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Guinevere 08-21-2003 02:12 PM

Thank you, Evisse. The amount of proverbs in Tolkiens books is astonishing ! (I've started collecting them...) Most of them he made up himself, I guess, but they sure sound like genuine old sayings.

Generous deed should not be checked by cold counsel.

Evisse the Blue 08-21-2003 02:54 PM

Gandalf to Pippin after he swore the oath to Denethor.

Guinevere 08-21-2003 04:04 PM

correct! Your turn again, Evisse [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] !

Evisse the Blue 08-22-2003 05:36 AM

Okay, I worked hard to get his one [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]


"There's no accounting for East or West."

Guinevere 08-27-2003 02:17 PM

Hm, so far, I've no idea where to look for that one! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Evisse the Blue 08-29-2003 12:20 PM

The full quote is

There's no accounting for East or West, as we say in Bree, meaning the Rangers and the Shire-folk, begging your pardon.
This should put you o the right track. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Mithisilien 09-01-2003 02:16 PM

Would that be Barliman Butterbur?

Evisse the Blue 09-01-2003 03:41 PM

Yes. Would you mind elaborating on the circumstances?
Then you're free to post a new one.

Mithisilien 09-01-2003 04:31 PM

Hahaha, I could be a jerk and say "In The Prancing Pony".... nah. It was part of his response to Frodo about who and what Strider was. Right after he said "Goes about at a great pace on his long shanks; though he don't tell nobody what cause he has to hurry".

[ September 01, 2003: Message edited by: Mithisilien ]

Mithisilien 09-01-2003 06:36 PM

ok, I swear I had put the next one in my last response....whatever.


Let us hope that no evil has yet come here

Guinevere 09-04-2003 01:21 PM

Aragorn to the Fellowship when they are landing at Parth Galen (below Amon Hen)
(But that's not a proverb??) [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Mithisilien 09-04-2003 04:32 PM

was it supposed to be? ahhhhh, I'm sorry. *hangs head* oh well. You got it! Even if the question was wrong...*twitch* ok.

Guinevere 09-05-2003 02:59 AM

Never mind, Mithisilien! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] But look at the title of the thread... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Oft evil will shall evil mar.

Mithisilien 09-05-2003 01:58 PM

I have no idea why it didn't register. I tend to miss stuff like that... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Guinevere 09-12-2003 12:54 PM

Does no one recognize that proverb? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] To give you a hint: it's from TTT . [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Mariska Greenleaf 09-12-2003 01:18 PM

Was it Theoden?

Guinevere 09-12-2003 02:32 PM

Yes, [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] but to whom and where?

Mariska Greenleaf 09-29-2003 02:42 AM

To Aragorn and Gandalf, about the Palantir in Isengard.

What do you mean, it took me a long time to find it??? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Okay, I just forgot, I'm sorry... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Guinevere 09-29-2003 04:46 AM

Right you are, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Please proceed!

Mariska Greenleaf 09-29-2003 01:51 PM

Ok thanks!
I really hope this next one counts as a proverb, adage, aphorism, saw, wise saying or cliché or whatever...


The board is set, and the pieces are moving
I like it, who said this? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Guinevere 09-29-2003 02:40 PM

Ah, that is Gandalf to Pippin in Minas Tirith! And afterwards he adds "One piece I greatly desire to find is Faramir."

Mariska Greenleaf 09-30-2003 04:00 AM

That's it, of course [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ September 30, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ]

Guinevere 09-30-2003 12:48 PM


Through darkness one may come to the light.

Guinevere 10-08-2003 01:43 PM

Do you need a hint? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] It's from U.T.

Mariska Greenleaf 10-20-2003 06:53 AM

Thanks for the hint!

That was Gelmir talking to Tuor.

[ October 20, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ]

Guinevere 10-20-2003 02:01 PM

It certainly was, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Please continue.
(I feared already no one would ever come and look at this thread...)

Mariska Greenleaf 11-07-2003 06:05 AM

It took me some time to come up with a new one, but, at last here it is...


help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.
[ November 07, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ]

Guinevere 11-07-2003 03:54 PM

This starts with "Many are the strange chances of the world..." and is said by Mithrandir to Elrond at the first White Council (In the Silm.)

Mariska Greenleaf 11-10-2003 04:08 AM

Very good!
Tour turn!

Guinevere 11-10-2003 01:47 PM

Thank you! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Great heart will not be denied.

Mariska Greenleaf 11-12-2003 03:49 AM

Theoden talking to Merry...


Grieve not! It is forgiven. Great heart will not be denied.

Guinevere 11-12-2003 01:19 PM

That's it! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mariska Greenleaf 11-13-2003 04:10 AM


Do as your heart calls.

Guinevere 11-20-2003 08:09 AM

That one took quite a lot of searching! First I thought it was Ulmo to Tuor, but he says "Do as your heart and valour lead thee."
Then I found Turin saying to Niniel:" Do as your heart bids you."

But finally I found the right one [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]: "Do as your heart calls, onya." said Meneldur to Aldarion before he went on his first voyage. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mariska Greenleaf 11-20-2003 08:24 AM

good job!
All yours. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Guinevere 11-20-2003 08:42 AM

Thank you Mariska. Ha, now I must be careful not to use one of the proverbs from Esty's new game [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img](btw I have been contributing to that one)
Hmmm how about:

Few can foresee whither their road will lead them, till they come to its end.

Guinevere 11-27-2003 03:06 AM

Do you need a hint? It's in TTT.

Mariska Greenleaf 12-04-2003 06:43 AM

That was Legolas talking to Aragorn and Gimli.

Guinevere 12-04-2003 09:23 AM

Yes! Well done, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
(I wonder why we two are the only ones on this thread?? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] )

Mariska Greenleaf 12-04-2003 09:29 AM

Yes, it is indeed strange, because this is a wonderful topic isn't it?

Oh well, I got a new one for you:


There are locked doors and closed windows in your mind, and dark rooms behind them.
It's not really a wise saying, more of a metafor I guess. I hope that's allright.

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