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Galadriel55 01-02-2011 07:13 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no, but it's getting a little warmer. :) Law/ban is also on the right track. The approach is right.

Ironfoot 01-02-2011 08:47 PM

Is it the Girdle of Melian?

Tuor in Gondolin 01-02-2011 10:13 PM

Was it enacted by one of the valar?

Galadriel55 01-03-2011 06:18 AM

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far. :)
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.

Blind Guardian 01-03-2011 07:26 PM

Oath?

Galadriel55 01-03-2011 07:36 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far.
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.
Oath - no, but getting closer :p

Ironfoot 01-03-2011 08:19 PM

So it isnt anything really, but just a concept, an idea of it being there. Something akin to an object and a law/ban, but not in the literal sense. Reminds me of *drumrolls* The Doors of Night!

Blind Guardian 01-03-2011 08:21 PM

Oath of...Feänor?

Galadriel55 01-03-2011 08:47 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far.
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.
Oath - no, but getting closer
Doors of Night - no, but also in the right direction.
Oath of Feanor - I said it's not an oath.

Time for another hint, perhaps. There are different kinds of concepts. There are abstract-concepts, like love and belief, that you can't really illustrate or imagine in a physical form; you just understand them (or don't). There are also those that, well, are more physical, like Girdle of Melian and Doors of Night. Although you can't really see/feel/etc them, they have a definite place, or a substence (not in these examples, though), or something else sort-of-physical in them. The thing I'm thinking of is the second kind of concept.
Also, the approach is more correct with the Girdle of Melian and The Doors of Night, but "oath" is closer in the sense of what it consists of...

It is so hard to give clues that aren't going to confuse others but won't give away the answer! Please tell me if you need clarification of this clue, and I'll try my best to give a better explanation.

Tuor in Gondolin 01-04-2011 09:14 AM

Created/originated by Iluvatar?

Galadriel55 01-04-2011 04:13 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far.
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.
Oath - no, but getting closer
Doors of Night - no, but also in the right direction.
Oath of Feanor - I said it's not an oath.
Created/originated by Iluvatar - no

Ironfoot 01-05-2011 04:02 AM

Is it...the Void?

Galadriel55 01-05-2011 04:12 PM

Void - no, but another good guess.

This thing doesn't have a specific location, but it can be described with words fairly well. :)

Blind Guardian 01-05-2011 07:02 PM

Timeless Halls?

Galadriel55 01-05-2011 07:08 PM

Timeless Halls - no

What other clues can I give? This is so frustrating!!!
OK, here's another one. This thing is composed of a bunch of other things that we all (or nearly all) use everyday, probably without realizing that we are casually throwing about "small concepts".
For the sake of easier guessing, I'll tell this one right away: this is NOT a place/location concept. That should narrow the search down a bit :).
And remember my previous clue - it can be described with words

Blind Guardian 01-05-2011 07:32 PM

The boundary that keeps the Men out of Valinor?

Galadriel55 01-05-2011 07:39 PM

The boundary that keeps the Men out of Valinor - no.
I meant that "place" is not involved anyhow (except that we can rule out where the thing originated :))

Blind Guardian 01-06-2011 11:13 AM

WHAT ELSE IS THERE?!?!


Oh I give up, what is it?

Blind Guardian 01-06-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 645830)
Timeless Halls - no

What other clues can I give? This is so frustrating!!!
OK, here's another one. This thing is composed of a bunch of other things that we all (or nearly all) use everyday, probably without realizing that we are casually throwing about "small concepts".
For the sake of easier guessing, I'll tell this one right away: this is NOT a place/location concept. That should narrow the search down a bit :).
And remember my previous clue - it can be described with words

*just saw this*

Oh so it's like a border of something, like Texas and New Mexico...?

That said is this 'border' in/near/general region of Middle-Earth?

Galadriel55 01-06-2011 04:28 PM

It is not a border. A border involves place, being the separation of two places. This does not have anything in common with a place except for the place of origin.

Blind Guardian 01-06-2011 04:48 PM

I hate you.

I just don't know. What is it?

It is made of a whole bunch of small things that we use everyday and it is not in the place that it is in is not the same/unknown...what describes this...? The Walls of the World? Mandos? Ulmo's home?!? The ocean? WHAT?!

Galadriel55 01-06-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian (Post 645994)
I hate you.

Why thank 'ee!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian (Post 645994)
It is made of a whole bunch of small things that we use everyday and it is not in the place that it is in is not the same/unknown

That doesn't make any sense even to me! No wonder you can't guess it! Have I been that bad at giving clues?:(
Just to clarify:
It is not a location/place.
It is a consept.
It is made up of "small concepts" that we use every day.
It can be described with words (this clue is particularly significant!!!)

I'll wait for another few days to see if anyone has more guesses, and then I'll tell what it is.

Blind Guardian 01-06-2011 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 646004)
Why thank 'ee!



That doesn't make any sense even to me! No wonder you can't guess it! Have I been that bad at giving clues?:(
Just to clarify:
It is not a location/place.
It is a consept.
It is made up of "small concepts" that we use every day.
It can be described with words (this clue is particularly significant!!!)

I'll wait for another few days to see if anyone has more guesses, and then I'll tell what it is.

Well thank you, that helped...


Actually it did!

Is it an illusion? Like...Lammoth?

Ironfoot 01-07-2011 01:19 AM

Foresight?

Galadriel55 01-07-2011 06:18 AM

Both are very good guesses, but no to both (neither foresight not lammoth-echo). I see you got the idea about no-location-significance. Now think - what could one use basically anywhere? (I wouldn't say it is used everywhere, but it could be). Also, there's a very good reason why I said that it could be decribed with words, rather that, let's say, pictures.

Pitchwife 01-07-2011 12:35 PM

Since you keep insisting that it can be described with words, is it perhaps made with words, like e.g. a poem?

Galadriel55 01-07-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitchwife (Post 646033)
Since you keep insisting that it can be described with words, is it perhaps made with words?

THREE CHEERS FOR PITCHWIFE!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it is!!! In fact, the poem guess is quite close - things like this one usually start out as poems, though not always.
And now you know exactly what category to guess from. :)
Good job, Pitch!!!

Pitchwife 01-11-2011 03:29 PM

A prophecy?

Galadriel55 01-11-2011 04:16 PM

Prophecy - no, you were closer with the poem.

Pitchwife 01-11-2011 04:53 PM

A riddle?

Galadriel55 01-11-2011 05:13 PM

riddle - no, poem is still the closest. And as I said, there is a possibility that it is in fact a poem, but I have no evidence of such or otherwise.

Blind Guardian 01-11-2011 10:47 PM

Here's one-what does the Gridle of Milan, poems, and being close have anything to do with one another? No, really...


*sighs* Is it truly like a poem? Is there words in it?
Was it said in LotR?

Galadriel55 01-12-2011 06:18 AM

Yes, it is truly like a poem, and perhaps it is a poem, but no one knows for sure.
Yes it is made with words.
It wasn't specifically said by anyone in LOTR, however, the likes of it were.
The Girdle of Melian was closest before Pitch guessed that it's made with words. :p Now it's replaced by poem.

Pitchwife 01-12-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian (Post 646612)
[...] the Gridle of Milan[...]

Ah, there's nothing like a real Italian pizza hot from the Griddle of Milan!:D

Hm, the purpose of Melian's Girdle (as well as the Doors of Night, which you said was also a good guess) was to keep enemies (or The Enemy) out, so maybe a password?

Galadriel55 01-12-2011 10:49 AM

No, not a password.
Girdle of Melian and Doors of Night were in the right direction because of the "thinking process", not the actual answer.

Pitchwife 01-12-2011 11:54 AM

A magic spell?

Galadriel55 01-12-2011 04:25 PM

Magic spell - no, poem is still the closest. Pitch was THAT close to guessing it when he said poem, and now you are going farther away again. Think: what could be a poem, but is ore than that?

Pitchwife 01-12-2011 04:56 PM

A song?

Galadriel55 01-12-2011 05:46 PM

A song - YOU ARE CORRECT AGAIN, PITCH!!!

Pitchwife 01-13-2011 07:55 AM

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. We already know it wasn't sung in LotR, so:
Was it sung by an Elf?


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