Greatest hobbit deeds/actions
How about some consideration, and eventual comparative
discussion and listing of notable hobbit brave or notable deeds? Some witness multiple contributors and some might rate lower then might be thought, for example, here's one beginning selective list. 1-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 2-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 3-The Bullroarer kills an orc defending The Shire 4-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 9-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 10-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 11-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 12-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 13-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 14-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 15-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 16-Rosie has numerous children 17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail 18-Pippin kills a troll |
I'm not sure if the list was meant to go in order....
17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail I find this situation to be very interesting. At first, Fatty feels that the Old Forest is "quite as dangerous as Black Riders". He had not encountered Black Riders with Frodo, Sam and Pippin nor has he been in the Old Forest only scared by the bogey-stories told by his nurses. He stays behind to keep up pretense that Frodo is still there and to give Gandalf the message of where the company went to, but Fatty also stays because he had no desire to leave the Shire. On the same night as Frodo and company meet up with Strider at the Prancing Pony, Fatty meets up with some of the Black Riders. He saw them creep in the garden and he ran more than a mile to the nearest home to (finally) raise an alarm. I personally think that even though Fatty is fond of Frodo, had he really known how dangerous and scary Black Riders were, he would not have even stayed at the Crickhollow house to keep up pretenses or to give Gandalf the message. |
I mean no offense, but having numerous children isn't really something to make you that great. In that instance, I would place Rosie at the end of the list, if not taking her off completely.
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But I actually agree with The 1,000 Reader that having 13 children alone doesn't make a person great. I have four and that doesn't make me stupendous. I think what makes Rosie great is what isn't written. Rosie falls into the category of a great woman behind a great man. This is pure specualtion but I don't think I'm wrong when I say Rosie supported Sam 100% in his political career, Sam is the type of man if he didn't have Rosie's support or if she didn't want him to he would not have been mayor for so many terms. Rosie should stay on the list but there is more to her than children. |
The list is theoretically in order of "merit", and
to some extent of a humorus nature. Taking comments into account: 1-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 2-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 3-The Bullroarer kills an orc defending The Shire 4-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 9-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 10-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 11-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 12-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 13-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 14-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 15-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 16-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail 18-Pippin kills a troll Any additions/subtractions/alterations in such a list to make? I'm actually unsure as to #1 and #2 shouldn't be flipflopped, given that Bilbo barely surrendered the Ring with Gandalf's help and Sam gave it up while figuratively in the shadow of Mount Doom. |
And why on earth is Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring not at the very top? Saving the world is pretty pedestrian; Frodo managed to be the only Hobbit ever to break the mould and achieve a Turinesque, almost Feanorian moment of hubris and grandeur...
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Because he failed. A failure (granted it apparently would have
been a failure for anyone) isn't an achievement. But it will be bumped up. 1-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 2-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 3-The Bullroarer kills an orc defending The Shire 4-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 9-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 10-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 11-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 12-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 13-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 14-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 15-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 16-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail 18-Pippin kills a troll |
Maybe not great as in woohoo, but important: Deagol going fishing?
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Just remembered the Hobbit archers that fought against Angmar.
Sure, their effect was slim to none, but a valiant deed this was. |
I don't know about Rosie's place on this list.
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And I think Pippin's defeat of a troll in the terror and darkness of Mordor, far from home and in service of a larger cause, when he thought he was giving his life in the attempt, was a far greater dead than Bullroarer killing a simple Orc in defense of his own home. |
How about these changes? And while, on reflection, Gollum's
actions to regain the Ring were also failures, like Frodo's to destroy it, as an effort , JRRT viewed it as impressive. (In Letters # 181) Quote:
2-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 3-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 4-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 5-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 6-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-The Bullroarer kills an orc while he's defending The Shire 9-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 10-Pippin kills a troll outside the Iron Gates 11-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 12-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 13-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 14-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 15. Rumor has it hobbit archers helped out against Angmar 16-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 17-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 18-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 19-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail |
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OK, perhaps move him down the list for that last one ... ;) |
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Sure, he failed his personal test of not being able to drop the ring into the Fire, but he didn't fail in destroying the Ring. Frodo's quest was to destroy the ring, he didn't personally have to destroy it, all that needed done was the Ring to be destroyed and Frodo made that happen. With intervening from Eru the Ring is destroyed, but the incredible deed is Frodo GETTING it to Mount Doom. He failed his test, but the quest succeeded the Ring was destroyed and what Frodo goes through to get to Mount Doom is absolutely amazing. 1st, he's told by Gandalf to get the Ring to Rivendell. Easy enough right...well Frodo gets worried because Gandalf hasn't come back yet, so him and his buds decide they need to set out and plan this big conspiracy to get Frodo out. Here we see Frodo willingly coming up with what he has to do, which is get the Ring to Rivendell, even if Gandalf didn't tell him it's ok to go yet, :p . 2nd, Just by getting the Ring to Rivendell, going through all them obstacles. 3rd, taking it upon himself to destroy the Ring. Yet again, he willingly puts the whole fate of Middle-earth on his shoulders and says he's going to take it to Mordor. No easy thing for a little hobbit. He puts aside his own comfort and safety back at home, to go on this epic quest. 4th, Gets the ring to Mount Doom and this is the most amazing of all. He bears a wound by the Witch-King, a wound by Shelob, the weight and influence of the Ring, and with his best bud Sam (who I know Frodo couldn't have done it without Sam) he gets the Ring to Mount Doom and gets it destroyed. He personally doesn't destroy it, but he succeeds in the Quest which was to destroy the Ring. What Frodo goes through and triumphs over is incredible, and at the very least should be #2. Forget the fact that he personally didn't destroy it, that would have made him a demi-god, because no one could have done it, but look at what he did to GET the Ring destroyed. Simply amazing. :D |
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heroic efforts for good above that for evil, and Bilbo did have help with his ring effort, so: 1-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 2-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 3-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 4-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-The Bullroarer kills an orc while he's defending The Shire 9-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 10-Pippin kills a troll outside the Iron Gates 11-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 12-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 13-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 14-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 15. Rumor has it hobbit archers helped out against Angmar 16-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 17-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 18-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 19-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail |
Thankyou for the kindness Captain...can I beam you up now? :p
Anway, I found this which goes along which fits in with the Frodo ordeal. Tolkien said that Frodo failed as a hero, but morally he did not fail. What Frodo did was set an impossible goal for himself, and when you set impossible goals you fail. But, what Frodo did do was amazing in itself...getting the Ring to Mount Doom, while being starved, bearing a great weight/pain, and the influence of the Ring, where the ultimate goal in the end was acheived. Quote:
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I would go further, Boro.
It seems to me that Frodo's amazing act of courage, selflesness and endurance was the single most important act ever achieved by a Hobbit in Middle-earth. He may not have been able to destroy the Ring when it came to it but (discounting Tom Bombadil) no one else could have done it either. The very fact that got the Ring to Mount Zoom - er - sorry - Doom was an incredible achievement in itself. The burden and effort involved in carrying it there was probably more than enough to overcome most. And it was through the kindness and pity that he had shown towards Gollum that the Ring was ultimately able to be destroyed. He may have failed to willingly destroy the Ring. But I would rather put a positive "spin" on it and say that he succeeded in his Quest. The achievements of Sam and Merry should not be underestimated, I agree. But they are surely superseded by Frodo's achievement. While Sam certainly contributed, it was Frodo who was able, through his endeavours, to bring about the circumstances whereby the Ring could be destroyed. And, in doing so, he saved the entirety of Middle-earth from falling under Sauron's thrall. |
Okay, a change. A tie for second is now declared.
But still to be answered is, can a failure (however noble) be declared an achievement? Perhaps. (And if the Bullroarer hadn't inadvertendly invented golf he'd probably be up at # 5). :D And how come Fatty Bolger gets no respect- you know what I mean! 1-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 2-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 2-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 4-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-The Bullroarer kills an orc while he's defending The Shire 9-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 10-Pippin kills a troll outside the Iron Gates 11-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 12-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 13-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 14-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 15. Rumor has it hobbit archers helped out against Angmar 16-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 17-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 18-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 19-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail |
When you say "greatest", though, what exactly do you mean? The ones that took the most skill? The most courage? The most effort? The most determination? A combination of those things? Or the ones that contributed most to the "cause" of Middle-earth (loosely, I suppose, Eru's plan)?
If the latter, Gollum and Deagol's "achievements" would surely rate the lowest. And we should include Smeagol's part in the destruction of the Ring since, though not intentionally done, it nevertheless contributed to the "cause". Taking a combination of those things, but bearing in mind the morality of the tale, I would rate them as follows (with some new ones added): 1-Frodo brings about the destruction of the Ring - See comments above. 2-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar - Immense courage, overcame great fear and an important contribution. 3-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo - It was not in Sam's nature to keep it, but it must nevertheless have taken an immense effort, being as he was in Mordor at the time. 4-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation - Rated higher than giving up the Ring as he did not know the nature of the Ring and was "assisted" by Gandalf, whereas knowingly facing a Dragon must have taken a lot of courage. 5-Frodo defies the Nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen - No mean achievement given the shape that he was in. 6-Frodo decides to go to Mordor alone - Would you have wanted to do that? Bormoir or no Boromir it was a selfless and courageous decision. Even moreso, in fact, given that he had witnessed first hand the Ring's effect on Boromir. 7-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo - See under 4. above. 8-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders - They were spiders, for goodness sake. And he was hardly a seasoned campaigner at this point. 9-Samwise rescues Frodo from Cirith Ungol - Worthy of mention, and a high rating, I think. 10-Frodo agrees to take the Ring to Mordor - I don't think he fully realised what he was getting himself into. But he knew something of the nature of the Ring, and he agreed to do so before he knew that the other eight members of the Fellowship would be accompanying him. 11-Pippin kills a troll outside the Iron Gates - Killing a Troll is no mean feat for a young Hobbit. And he saved Gimli's life and nearly died in the effort. 12-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale - He betrayed his companions. A difficult choice, but a wise one, and the right one. 13-Merry, Pippin and Sam organise the resistance to Sharkey's men - They saved the Shire, and all on their own (leadership-wise) this time. 14-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella - Quite a feat for an old lady armed only with an umbrella. 15-The Bullroarer oversees the rout a Goblin raiding party and beheads their Chieftain - He ends up lower than I expected. But he had an army on his side, and Goblins just don't compare with Nazgul, Trolls, Dragons and Giant Spiders. And let's just forget the golf thing. :D 16-The Hobbit Archers join the struggle against Angmar - A collective effort, rather than an individual performance, so not quite on a par with some of the others. But brave, nonetheless. 17-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm - Not an inherently dangerous task, but one which showed resourcefulness and involved a great deal of discomfort. 18-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail - As has been said, he didn't realise the implications of what he had agreed to do. It would have been braver to go with the others. But raising the alarm was a smart move. 19-Bilbo enters a riddle contest with Gollum in the darkness of the Misty Mountains - I would rate it higher, but he did cheat. ;) 20-Pippin looks into the Palantir - He was a fool of a Took to do it, but it had important consequences. 21-Gollum falls into the Crack of Doom with the Ring - Not intentionally done, but it saved Middle-earth. 22-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone - The deed was already done. The courage was in taking the Arkenstone. Once he did that, he had to face the consequences. 23-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise - Impressive. But hardly extraordinary. Sorry. 24-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring - OK, so it showed great determination and resourcefulness. But it was selfishly motivated, and I cannot really credit that. 25-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin - An act that had far-reaching consequences. But it hardly involved much input on Deagol's part. The Ring wanted to be found, anyway. I am sure that there are more that could be added - there must be other Hobbit deeds greater than Deagol finding the Ring. I would have added Frodo's pity for Gollum, but I count that as part of 1. Reviewing the list, it seems that I tend to favour courageous acts on the part of Hobbits. :D But I think the consequnces of the acts and the effort involved are important to consider too. PS - Thought of another one. Sam confronting and defeating Shelob. I would put it at number 6 or 7 on the list above. She was the spawn of Ungoliant, for goodness sake. |
Well done by SpM. #13, 19, and 20 are interesting additions,
especially # 13. Anyone have any others? There seem to be two main considerations to such a topic and list: the events/actions themselves, and what are the natures of qualifying events. Quote:
"positive" "successful" outcome, although even that definition is tricky. A "successful" outcome for Gollum, or even Deagol, would have been a retention of the ring. And as to another hobbit "great" achievement, what about the matriarch of Smeagol's clan expelling him from the group? Other actions by her via-via Smeagol would (albeit probably inadvertently) have changed the tale of the ring if not the eventual outcome. The broader definition of "greatest" is probably the better one, although you have to be careful of making a definition too broad to be useful. |
Revival
Hmm... this looks like an interesting thread.
But I would definately put Sam's fighting Shelob on that list. |
Interesting thread!
I think that the Conspiracy should be given some more praise. Pippin and Merry especially - even after the conspiracy business, in Rivendell, knowing what they are facing, they refuse to leave Frodo. Another great accomplishment, that may be considered a semi-failure, but is great nonetheles, is the awakening of Smeagol in Gollum. Frodo brings out the last good in him when all others fail. It was not his fault that in the end Gollum himself decided to turn to his old ways. I think Rosie is a great person because she waited a long time for Sam and never lost hope. Pippin looking into the Palantir deserves to be higher on the list. He resisted Sauron - SAURON - with all his might, for as long as he could. I think Farmer Cotton should also be on the list, for calmly and bravely facing the Ruffians and Shirrifs during the rebellion, and for quietly but firmly breaking the Rules before the rebellion. What about Maggot and the Gaffer? They were both questioned by a Nazgul, and unlike Harry in Bree they were quite courageous. Quote:
PS: I think Sam deserves to be reeeeally high on the list for all those times when he was torn apart, and chose to stick with Frodo. And for just always being there for him. He almost drowned for Frodo! |
May I suggest Sam's battle with Shelob and Frodo's struggle against The Barrow-wight..
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Here's a rating, incorporating some suggestions. feel free to amend it.
Who would have thought hobbits were so courageous (other then Gandalf, that is :) ) 1-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 2-Frodo's efforts to destroy the Ring 3-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 4-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 5-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 6-Pippin looks into the Palantir 7-Sam fights Shelob 8-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 9-The Bullroarer kills an orc while he's defending The Shire 10-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 11-Pippin kills a troll outside the Iron Gates 12-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 13-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 14-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 15-Farmer Cotton 16-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 17-Maggot and the Gaffer are not cowed in questioning by the nazgul 18-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 19-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 20-The Hobbit Archers join the struggle against Angmar 21-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 22-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 23-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail |
No one's mentioned the courage of male Hobbits in marrying women with such hairy feet? Or the patience of Hobbit women in cooking meals for their husbands every two hours? ;)
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Why is it of greater significance that Sam gives the ring back to Frodo, than Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo?
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Personally, I think Bilbo did a greater thing. Firstly, he was the first ever to give away the Ring without physical strength involved. Secondly, Sam was only "borrowing" the Ring, and he took it with the assumption that it's still Frodo's, the "rightful" ringbearers. Bilbo was, in a sense, the Ringbearer. He should be compared to Frodo, not Sam. But in Frodo's case, there are too many factors like proximity to Modor involved. In his case, it really plays a differenre. It's the difference of giving back and giving away. |
None of them.
The invention of 'Golf' by Bullroarer Took ;) |
If I may revive an old thread...
I have my own ideas about the order of importance of the great hobbit deeds... I ordered them by what I believe took the greatest courage and strength of character in each of the given circumstances. Accordingly, there are some things left off from the previous lists. I also tried to limit the list, because while there are many great hobbit deeds worth mentioning not all fall into the category of brave or notable deeds, which was the original topic.
1 - Frodo's efforts to destroy the ring. - Easily the most notable hobbit deed of all time and requiring the greatest strength of character. 2 - Bilbo surrenders the ring before leaving Bag End. - Bilbo may not have known what the ring was, but he used to wear it for weeks at a time--its hold on him was very great. 3 - Sam's efforts to help Frodo destroy the ring. - I think the Bible says it best, "Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends," and Sam knew well that the quest was likely to end in death. 4 - Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the men of Dale. - To do what one believes is right when it may cost them everything, especially high-standing in the minds of others, is a quality rarely found anymore in the world. 5 - Sam rescues Frodo from Cirith Ungol. - Sam chooses love and friendship over all fear and the pull of the ring, and braves the tower. 6 - Bilbo rescues the dwarves from giant spiders. - Risking his life for dwarves who still don't think him all that worth their time, and doing part of it without invisibility. 7 - Merry helps slay the Witch-king of Angmar. - An act of great courage despite his knowledge of the great personal risk. 8 - Pippin slays a troll outside Morannon. - Just like Merry (and interchangeable I think in ranking) an act of great courage despite the risk to his own life. 9 - Bilbo confronts Smaug. - Facing a dragon alone requires a lot of courage and character, but not as much as if one didn't have a magic ring. 10 - Sam defeats Shelob. - Taking on this giant spider requires great courage, but not perhaps as much courage as others would need to complete the task--I think it's fair to argue Sam is the most courageous hobbit in history. 11 - The hobbits take back the Shire from Saruman. - A group effort so not as high on the list, and probably seeming like nothing after everything else they had been through. But still notable and courageous. 12 - Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's realm. - Perhaps deserving of a higher place on the list, but we know by now of Bilbo's propensity to pop his ring on and disappear if danger was near to him. 13 - Bandobras Took slays Golfimbul at the Battle of Greenfields. - Orcs are quite frightening whether you are a halfling or one of the big-folk. But he was four foot five and had a horse. 14 - Frodo decides to go to Mordor alone. - At this point Frodo had some idea of what he was getting into so it was a very brave decision, but he didn't yet know the great weight the ring would become. 15 - The hobbits continue on the quest after their encounter with the barrow-wights. - A new one, and last on my list. For the four hobbits to be willing to strike out on their own without Tom Bombadil after near-death is quite notable and brave, but they still were very innocent. Now you may ask...why didn't I include Sam giving the ring back to Frodo? Or Lobelia confronting Saruman, or Frodo defying the Nazgul, or any of the other things previously mentioned? Well... In the case of Sam returning the ring, I believe he had already made that choice in his heart before he had even found Frodo. His heart was not with the ring but with his friend, and that wasn't going to change. Which is also why I might argue that Sam has the greater strength of character between the two of them, but that's another topic. :) Other items I left off were either because they made the list too long and were about the same level of courage and character as other things (much like Merry's and Pippin's individual deeds). And then there were other deeds that were noteworthy but not falling into the categories of brave, courageous or requiring strength of character. Some in fact are mere historical facts or instances of happenstance rather than requiring any character strength on the parts of the hobbits (such as Gollum's accidentally falling into the Cracks of Doom with the ring). That said, there is one such deed in hobbit history I wanted to bring up because I find it is often forgotten: Marcho and Blanco get permission from Argeleb II to cross the Brandywine and begin settling the Shire. It may not necessarily be courageous or even notable outside that it is the beginning of recorded hobbit history, but without them it can be safely said our dear hobbits of the Shire wouldn't even exist! So that is my list. A humble noob, I welcome your comments! |
I agree with you completely on number 1, but would bump 3 up to 2.
I wonder if Lobelia should appear somewhere, for standing up to Sharkey's men ... and perhaps a little for her redemption at the end. I would say the Taming of Smeagol was a very praiseworthy deed, too - even if its motives were mixed, compassion and finding a way to control Gollum (and hence try not to jeopardise the Quest) without killing him were pretty high among them. Good point about Marcho and Blanco. Quote:
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I think when the Hobbits took back Hobbiton from the invaders after Saruman lost his station was pretty brave.
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How about Frodo and the Barrow Wights? Gandalf singled it out even ahead of his encounter with the nazgul on weathertop. It was the first biggest test that Frodo went through, on his own and with no guidance from anyone at that stage.
Definitely agree that despite his final failure, Frodo just getting the Ring to mount doom was a huge achievement, given that he was going through mental torture the whole way through mordor. |
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