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Joy 02-06-2002 12:12 AM

The Undying Lands
 
Have a simple question.

I read that the Undying Lands were removed from ME, so in the end of LotR, where do Gandalf, Frodo, Biblo, and the elves go? Do they just go over the sea or do they go to the Undying Land? Also, it is noted that Cirdan the Shipwright stays till the last boat is taken. Do the others that were on the Quest taken there also.

I know that Aragorn and Arwen die naturally. But what of the others, Legolas and Gimli, Merry, Pippin and Samwise?

Nazgūl Queen 02-06-2002 04:40 AM

<center><font color="red">Merry and pippin become master of buckland and the Thain, and they go to Minas tirith to die where they are interned with aragorn.

Gimli and legolas go over the sea to the undying lands after Aragorn's death it 120 4th Age.

Sam is mayor of the shire 7 times and then follows frodo etc over the sea to Valinor when his wife rosie dies.

Eruhen 02-06-2002 07:16 AM

Even though Aman is removed from ME, the Elves can still find the straight path over the sea. Also, since Gandalf was a Maia, it was rather easy for him to get back to Aman. As for Bilbo and Frodo, I imagine that Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel vouched for them before the Valar.

Elrian 02-06-2002 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Joy:
<STRONG>Have a simple question.

I read that the Undying Lands were removed from ME, so in the end of LotR, where do Gandalf, Frodo, Biblo, and the elves go? Do they just go over the sea or do they go to the Undying Land? Also, it is noted that Cirdan the Shipwright stays till the last boat is taken. Do the others that were on the Quest taken there also.

I know that Aragorn and Arwen die naturally. But what of the others, Legolas and Gimli, Merry, Pippin and Samwise?</STRONG>
The Elves can still go to the Undying Lands, they take what is called the Straight Road, only the Elves can sail there. Bilbo and Frodo go with Galadriel, Elrond and Gandalf having been bearers of the Ring. Samwise after the death of Rosie goes there as well. Legolas built a ship and sailed there with Gimli after the death of Aragorn. Merry became Master of Buckland and Councellor of the North Kingdom, and Pippin became 32nd Thain of the Shire and Councellor of the North Kingdom., they turned over there offices in the Shire and rode to Rohan and Gondor, a few years later the died in Gondor and were buried with honors the House of Kings along side Aragorn.

Joy 02-12-2002 01:15 AM

Thank you so much for clearing that up. I have read the Hobbit now and am reading the Sil. I am understanding more things.


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