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Physics and RoTK??!
Hey... I have this weird paper on my physics class, something about the "physics concepts and principles applied" on the Return of the King. Included are the flaws (with respect to the laws of physics) of the movie and the recommendation thingy. I'd be so glad to have a little help from you guys. Thank you! :D
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You seem to have a more interesting Physics class then I had - the centroid method of measuring uncertainties in a gradient was probably the funnest thing we ever did ;)
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Are you saying that the flaws are noted, and that you are to explain why these events contradict the laws of physics? If so, can we have the list?
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pity you're not doing the fellowship
on another lotr site many years back now it seems, we had a lot of fun, ganshing of teeth, screaming, cursing etc on how on earth movie Gandalf caught up with 1/ his sword 2/ the balrog on his trip down the unmeasurable drop from the bridge of kazad dum. unfortunately the site seemed to go into decline and vanish a couple of years back (hence why I moved onto here) |
Maybe he used the Force ;)
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In the book, I guess he kept the sword in his hand? One hand was empty because he had broken his staff and no long held it, the other held his sword...the Balrog's whip got him, he fell, snatched at the edge of the broken bridge, and fell. In the movie, however, he dropped both his sword and his staff when he got lapped up by the whip. Very careless of him... As for flaws on the RotK in concerns to Physics...none seem to pop up in my mind at present. Good luck. -- Folwren |
Surely sliding down the trunk of an oliphaunt or whatever Legolas Bond did must break some law of physics but maybe it just broke the law against crap sequences in films :p
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Wasn't there something about how Frodo would have been incinerated in real life if he had been as close to the fire of Mount Doom as he was?
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Nice one. I think this has something to do with the thermodynamics thingy. Quote:
Thanks guys for the ideas! I appreciate these. :D |
In the Middle Ages, trebuchets often had trouble just launching stones the size of a human head, but the (wooden!) trebuchets in ROTK launch rocks the size of houses without any trouble whatsoever. :eek:
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One of my favorites is the Black Gate at the Morannon. Two trolls, however strong, swing open the gate by pushing on a bar. By my guesstimates that would be like me opening a heavy door using a toothpick! Figure out the lengths on both sides of the pivot point, estimate the mass of the Gate and figure out the force that must be exerted by the Trolls and what substance on Earth, Middle or otherwise, would withstand such stress.
And does the bar which they push even bow/bend a bit? :rolleyes: |
Physics?!
I think I have spotted another Middle Earth Physics violation,
JRRT claimed that the Sun and Moon were derived from fruit. Now cheese maybe but fruit, naaaah! (OK its in the Silmarillion but the very same Sun and Moon were depicted in the movie RoTK, though their parts were acted by a gigantic mass of fusing hydrogen and helium with a surface temperature of more than 5000 C and a 2000 mile diameter lump of rock, respectively, which I think worked quite well) ;) |
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Regarding the Black Gate, was the bar perhaps made of mithril?
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I've got one! How about Grond the battering ram used during the Siege of Gondor? Calculating the weight, angle, and velocity needed to break the Gate of Minas Tirith must have been a pain for those silly trolls.
How about the perfect angle at which to attach the stirrup to David Wenham's leg as not to break his ankle when Faramir was being dragged in though the Gates... in full armour... stuck full of arrows... *trails off into grumbling* The trebuchet one was great, Sir Kohran. :D |
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Anyway, in PJ's Black Gate, we have a troll team used to open it. Would Sauron, who coveted mithril, used this precious metal for something so base as a door handle? |
Scenes from Return of the King in which physics might be discussed:
Covered enough topics? I'm guessing if you want to narrow in, the siege weapons would be a good thing to go with. It's a topic of physics that still affects battle strategy today, and has several facets of interest in the movie. |
Thanks a lot!
I've just finished my paper.. and took a lot of ideas from here. I quoted this site of course, to avoid the university plagiarism thingy.... :D
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You may be right there :)
I'm no physics expert- but would the Eagles have been able to fly that close to a Volcano- there must have been some unagreeable thermals :cool: |
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You know, I pointed this out when I was watching the movie for the first time. (At the premier.) My friends almost strangled me. ;) I found myself justified when we went to the Episode III premier and watched as Anakin burst into flames. I had to fight the urge to turn around and say, "See? That close to lava and you catch fire!" :rolleyes: |
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I suppose supplying the tower with water would be more drudgery for the snaga, carrying water by hand
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I don't have my books with me (they're all packed up) but I do recall that the water in Mordor was scarce, and what was there was less than drinkable. I doubt Sauron needed any. Though I do wonder about the orcs... Is there any written instance of them ever drinking water? They complained about not having any meat, but I don't think they complained about the water supply.
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Don't Sam and Frodo find Orcish water bottles in Mordor. They're living beings they have to have sustenance
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How about that the main characters are somehow is so competent that no single enemy are able to scratch them?or what about the good soldiers is so incompetent that even one small orc is what it takes to kill a lot of the good soldiers?
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I know it's just VERY bad explaination, that's what I can come up with now. |
In movies,the hero ALWAYS have some sort of supernatural prptection that make them invincible from attacks.
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Just look at legolas,i know that elves are very agile,but that was just absurd.while the rest of the elves,notably the one in helms deep,was easily massacred by orcs.
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