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Gandalfer 12-14-2000 01:06 PM

Who is your favorite "Bad Guy".
 
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<FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>Results (total votes = 146):<table bgcolor=#FFFFFF border=0 cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width="75%"> <tbody> <tr><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan=3 height=1></tr><TR BGCOLOR=#E0E0E0><TD NOWRAP> <FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>Melkor/Morgoth&nbsp</td> <td height><FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>32&nbsp;/&nbsp;21.9%&nbsp</td><td><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/bar.gif width=65 height=10 hspace=3>&nbsp;</td></tr> <tr><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan=3 height=1></tr><TR BGCOLOR=#E0E0E0><TD NOWRAP> <FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>Sauron&nbsp</td> <td height><FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>25&nbsp;/&nbsp;17.1%&nbsp</td><td><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/bar.gif width=51 height=10 hspace=3>&nbsp;</td></tr> <tr><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan=3 height=1></tr><TR BGCOLOR=#E0E0E0><TD NOWRAP> <FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>Saruman&nbsp</td> <td height><FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>18&nbsp;/&nbsp;12.3%&nbsp</td><td><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/bar.gif width=36 height=10 hspace=3>&nbsp;</td></tr> <tr><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan=3 height=1></tr><TR BGCOLOR=#E0E0E0><TD NOWRAP> <FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>Lord of the Nazgul&nbsp</td> <td height><FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>31&nbsp;/&nbsp;21.2%&nbsp</td><td><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/bar.gif width=63 height=10 hspace=3>&nbsp;</td></tr> <tr><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan=3 height=1></tr><TR BGCOLOR=#E0E0E0><TD NOWRAP> <FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>Gollum&nbsp</td> <td height><FONT FACE="Verdana,Arial" SIZE=2>40&nbsp;/&nbsp;27.4%&nbsp</td><td><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/bar.gif width=82 height=10 hspace=3>&nbsp;</td></tr> <tr><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan=3 height=1></tr></tbody> </table>

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Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Poor little Gollum...I felt so sorry for him. I think he had a good heart, way deep down.

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Grand Admiral Reese 12-16-2000 06:41 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

The baddest of the bad himself: Morgoth Bauglir!


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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

I like the Witch King, but I had to go with Morgoth. After all, he defied the best efforts of elves and men to defeat him. Only by direct &quot;divine&quot; intervention was he vanquished.


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Orald 12-16-2000 03:58 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Well, i guess Gothmog isn't a choice, and neither are Gluarung or Smaug. Out of the ones listed, Sauron was pretty cool, he was just so damn persistant(you have to admire that), just kept reforming and coming back to terrorize. My favorites I think are Gluarung and Smaug. Gluarung helped make one of my favorite stories, and Smaug help start the books off.

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The Barrow-Wight 12-16-2000 04:23 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Of these I picked Sauron, though I've often said Glaurung was my favorite bad guy.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

What!?!?!? Not the Barrow Wight!?!? *shock* <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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The Barrow-Wight 12-16-2000 10:35 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Though I've chosen the Barrow-Wight as a nick for here and at the web page, the wight was really just a subordinate of te Witch-king who in turn was a slave of Sauron!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Gotta be Sauron. Ultimate evil.

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as eowyn 12-19-2000 07:53 PM

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Hey!

Hey! Didn't I just do something like this? Well not just it was I little while ago and it wasn't a pole just a question but still! I'm just kidding you have every right to post what ever you like <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Hey!

Sauron of Course, The Ring Lord....but in the Silmarillion I think he shows the true depth of his evil:

Sauron talking to Gorlim after capturing him:

&quot;Sauron said: 'I hear now that thou wouldst barter with me. What is thy price?' And Gorlim answered that he should find Eilinel again, and with her be set free; for he thought that Eilinel also had been made captive. Then Sauron smiled, saying: 'That is a small price for so great a treachery. So shall it surely be. Say on!' Now Gorlim would have drawn back, but daunted by the eyes of Sauron he told at last all that he would know. Then Sauron laughed; and he mocked Gorlim, and revealed to him that he had seen only a phantom devised by wizardry to entrap him; for Eilinel was dead. 'Nonetheless I will grant thy power,' said Sauron; 'and thou shalt go to Eilinel, and be set freeof my service.' The he put him cruely to death.&quot;

Oh!!! Talk about evil. That defines it. Right there.

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Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Sauron certainly seems the most deliberately cruel whereas Morgoth seems more big picture. Kind of like Mengele vs Hitler. However, Ungoliant (who is not on the list) would probably be a good candidate for &quot;most&quot; evil in the raw sense of the word. I guess she's not in the running since she's not likely to be anyone's &quot;favorite&quot;.

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Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

It has to be the Lord of the Nazgul, Witch-king of Angmar, Lord of the Nine, Black Rider, Servant of Sauron! Sure, he may be slightly lesser than the rest but hey, give him a break! Riding on a giant black thing resembling a...um, turd, would be cool, especially flying that quickly. Hmmm...not being able to see properly is a bit of a drawback though.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg" align=absmiddle> Nope nope

Has to be Gollum for me.
He was good once... and he WAS a hobbit.

*sigh*


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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Favorite Bad Guy?

Everybody has a soft spot for old Morgoth. Me, personally, I love to hate him. Did I mention I could take him anyday? <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> He gives some real purpose to the books. If not for him, Arda would be Arda Unmarred, but hey, how interesting is that? Would you read a book about how well the harvest did this year, or how happy everyone was? YAAAAAWWWWN Boring! The Books NEED him.


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Orald 01-09-2001 08:12 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Favorite Bad Guy?

True, Evil is bad and causes much sadness, but it is good to have been.

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Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

I would have to go with the Witch King of Angmar.While his power was not on the level of Morgoth or Sauron his interaction with the Fellowship ( stabbing Frodo, the face-off with Gandalf,etc.) made him a more tangible evil and he served the unblinking eye with undead resolve.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Sauron, no doubt about it. He's so cool, so good, so... stupid!
He lost his war 'coz he didn't pay attention to a little, small, weaponless hobbit...
He's the best!

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Welcome to the Downs Son of Elessar and The Last Elf.

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hmmm who can guess who I voted for.

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well...<img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> me must say me ONE fav bad guys is Ungoliant, but there are so many me cant name them all!!<img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> ................................<img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> check out my own wicked discussion board at Ost-in-Edhil:The City Of The Elves at http://pub48.ezboard.com/bostinedhilpub48.ezboard.com/bostinedhil</a>

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I'll have to go with Gollum...I felt sorry for the little guy. And I think that he had potential to be good again.


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Re:Who's your favourite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;

I have to go with gollum too. The poor guy was just so corrupted by the ring,
and I was sad when he fell into the fire, even though it was for &quot;the better&quot;...

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who is your favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot;.

Melkor. Sauron was a disciple of Melkor and a shadow (though a big one to be sure!) of his master. They were both jerks! (I wish Fingolfin would have got Melkor in a headlock, rubbed his face in the dirt, and then gave him a big wedgie in front all the onlooking hosts of Angband!)

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Bill Ferny, the schemin' ne'er do well hisself!

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Morgoth, of course!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re my favorite bad guy?

Sauron deffinatly if he hadnt have made such a stupid mistake as putting most of his power in a stupid little destructable thing than I wouldnt have been able to see elves and all.But if you think about it than none of the bad guys would be a favorite,but just to have some fun......why do I like sauron?and not like the others?I like sauron 'cause of what that one person said about him not seeing two harmless little hobbits bearing one thing that should have been so easy for him to detect in his own land no less.And i dont like him 'cause he sent so many enemys after mister Frodo and all.I never liked Gollum,to slinky and when he jumped on mister Frodo (when I was carrying him up the mountain)I almost kicked him.What do I know about Morgoth? Nothing,I'm just a hobbit
although I had a lovly fight with that wretched spiderand she ranks only second so it goes Sauron and whats her name?....... Shelob
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Gollum owns j00!

Welcome gollum! I like the site, nice layout. But I can't find any links to other pages? <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Well well

GolluM Im glad you decided to join us, Im the one you were speaking to yesterday.. I still love that drawing on your page.. Hmmm my favorite abd guy... I would have to say morgoth himself... without morgoth there would be no Sauron, no balrogs, nor dragons, no orcs goblins and hobgoblins... Life would simply be boring. After all good cannot exist without evil, so we might as well give credit to teh guy that started it all <img src=devil.gif ALT=":evil"> And besides Morgoth did alot in his time including wrecking the world earl on.. quite an accomplishment.. but thats simply my views

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Gollum owns j00!

I was going to say &quot;Don't advertise your page if you aren't going to join our conversations.&quot; but I decided to visit your page first. The picture of Gollum has at leat 26 dagger-like teeth. Gollum only had six. If you had joined in the conversation before making your page you'd never have such a glaring error on your site!

Now please put your link in your sig and join in the conversations or your link will be tossed into the void within a few days.

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Favorite bad guy?
call me old -fashioned but my answer is
None.
<img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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lol, I realy like the the sig.

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my favourite bad guy is of course sauron. he's just cool isnt he? well, maybe slightly stupid and somewhat blind but well i like him.


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My favorite is Melkor/Morgoth

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i think you can look to the free peoples to discover a few bad guys, for example, Maeglin was possibly the &quot;baddest&quot; of all because of his evil lustfull desire for Idril and the throne of Gondolin and hatred of Tuor and Earendil. Also, the three middle sons of Feanor had a lot to be disired. Although Caranthir was named the dark, Celegorm probably showed most evil intent. Grima also was a slimy little sod. However i hate al the above characters, may favourite would have to be the Witch King, the most visible face of all that is bad.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: bad guys

Many good examples, careneon. Welcome to the board.

The Witch King was awesomely bad!!

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I'm in the minority who've voted for Saruman.

While Morgoth and Sauron are a lofty unreachable evil, and while Gollum is a pitiable tortured fool, Saruman is a vindictive traitor.

And he just doesn't quit! Knowing that there is nothing to accomplish, he still does his dirty work in the Shire, just for spite!

His fallen stature, and the inevitable comparison with Gandalf, make him a first rate villain in my book!


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My favorite &quot;Bad Guy&quot; is Sam. He was rather not nice to Smeagol.

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