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How do you pronounce it?
How do you pronounce words like "Maedhros" and "Caradhras". In the appendix I think it says the consonant cluster "dh" should be prounounced as "rn", but I also read somewhere else that it should be pronounce as "th". I'm not sure if either of them is correct.
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Tolkien's 'dh' should be pronounced as a voiced 'th', as in 'there' or 'the'.
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Yes, "dh" is pronounced "th". If you go to the appendices, you'll get ALL the pronounciations. Also, in the back of the Sil, lots of pronounciations can be found! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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I had another question. my and some of my friends like to have friendly arguments about this! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Is Saruman pronounced
sar-U-men, or SAR-u-man? (with a slight and lesser accent on the u) lemme know what you all think! |
I say SA-ru-mon, but i don't know how you must say it.
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I read in the appendix that a word ending in D sounds like a V. Would that mean that Gandalf sounds like Gan-Dalv?
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That's the way Frodo pronouced it in the movie, and the movie did stick very close to correct pronounciations, so maybe so.
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YEAH SINCE GANDALF ENDS IN D
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Saruman is pronounced with the accent on the first syllable and with each "a" pronounced like the "a" in "father" and the "r" rolled or trilled....SA-ru-man
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"Saruman, his name among Northern Men, contains the Anglo-Saxon word searu, saru 'skill, cunning, cunning device.'" (UT)
"4. Back Mutation [in Old English:] Appears before liquids and labial consonants (i.e. r, l; p, b, f, m): i > io (hira > heora) e > eo (herot > heorot) a > ea (saru > searu)" [therefore we have to use the latter form in a modern text using OE unless stated otherwise] "ea begins with the sound of e and glides towards the back of the mouth, giving a sound not unlike that in 'bared, Baird'; " As for the -man, it is really a matter hardly to be grasped in modern ENglish at all: "root-stems which according to Germanic laws of Ablaut, change the root vowel during the declension. In Modern English such words still exist, and we all know them: goose - geese, tooth - teeth, foot - feet, mouse - mice etc. " The form is 'mann' in some, 'menn' in other places. Since Tolkien anglicized as far as possible (see app. F), we can probably say [mæn] throughout. I suggest the sites Pronunciation of Old English and The Historical Grammar of the Old English Language , from both of which I have quoted. |
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