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Arwen Imladris 07-26-2002 02:06 PM

Wargs v.s. Wolves
 
What is the difference between Wargs and Wolves? Or are they the same? Which one is stronger? Would win in a fight?

There, I think that are all of my questions on wolves and Wargs! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

The Green Ringwraith 07-26-2002 02:38 PM

I am a wolf fanatic, and as far as I'm concerened, Wargs are Werewolf-like and wolves are more Wolf-dog across the street-like. But they're all kewl to me! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sarin Elfarmour 07-26-2002 02:43 PM

Wargs were probably larger because orcs would ride on them like horses, they might also have been trained, were as the ordinary wolf was wild

Aldagrim Proudfoot 07-27-2002 08:21 AM

They were probably also a little smarter because Gandalf understood their language.

Fingolfin of the Noldor 07-27-2002 08:30 AM

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‡The word Warg used in The Hobbit and the L.R. for an evil breed of (demonic) wolves is not supposed to be A-S specifically, and is given prim. Germanic form as representing the noun common to the Northmen of these creatures. -note to draft letter #297 pg381 The Letters of JRR Tolkien

littlemanpoet 07-27-2002 08:54 AM

Wargs as evil/demonic is the key difference. They had evil fear (that's fay-ahr, elvish for 'spirit') dwelling in them. These fe-ar are what gave them their intelligence, and their increased size probably came along with the evil spirits, from Morgoth in the First Age.
-lmp

Arwen Imladris 07-27-2002 02:00 PM

O.K. thanks guys!

But looking back again......

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a meeting place for the wolves... in the middle of the circle was a great grey wolf... in the dread ful language or the Wargs..
It seems that they are interchangeable.

There is also proof that wargs were just evil wolves.

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But even the wild Wargs (for so the evil wolves over the Edge of the Wild were named)..
What do you think?

Fingolfin of the Noldor 07-27-2002 03:03 PM

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It seems that they are interchangeable.
Well...while 'wargs' are certainly wolves wolves are not necessarily 'wargs'.

Sarin Elfarmour 07-27-2002 07:24 PM

That sounds very confusing but i get it anyway, i agree

littlemanpoet 07-28-2002 04:07 PM

Ya know, it always bugged me that there is no such thing as a good wolf in LotR. I realize that Tolkien wrote out of the Northern legends and myths, in which wolves were commonly regarded as enemies, but I still wish....

But I agree that Wargs were wolves - they were just evil wolves.

lmp

Aragost 07-28-2002 05:44 PM

the wargs were on the west side of the misty mountains and bigger and smarter.wolves were on the eastside

Anorien 07-28-2002 11:58 PM

ok, i know this! Great Warg told me. The wolves have no side, they are just normal dumb creatures. The wargs are on the evil side, and they are a lot smarter. Clear?

Arwen Imladris 08-05-2002 03:14 PM

O.K. I think I understand. Thanks all!


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