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Morgoth Bauglir 06-09-2003 03:19 PM

Im a Lord of the Rings failure!!
 
Its been so long since ive read them, so i have another question [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and my brother stole all the books

Gandalf was a maiar, but which Valar did he serve?I forget!

Phoenix 06-09-2003 03:53 PM

I know this one, I know who it is, but I just can't seem to remember what his name is. He is the head god, so to speak the brother of Melkor, so if you can remember who that is, he was the head god.

Lalaith 06-09-2003 04:06 PM

The Encyclopaedia of Arda says he served Manwe (the 'head god' of whom you speak) and his spouse Varda.
But perhaps I read somewhere that he was a Maia of Lorien (that is, the home of the god of dreams in Valinor)

Meela 06-09-2003 05:42 PM

He was a Maia of Manwe, but a pupil of Nienna (?). Well, a pupil of one of the Valar other than Manwe.

Yavanna228 06-09-2003 05:52 PM

Yes indeed, Meela, he was taught pity and patience by Nienna although he lived in Lorien. And Morgoth Bauglir, I'm sure you're not a failure, not by a long shot. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Peace

[ June 09, 2003: Message edited by: Yavanna228 ]

Phoenix 06-09-2003 06:20 PM

Oh yeah, it waaaaaas Manwe. I don't happen to own a copy of The Silmarillion, and that I am working on, so forgive me.

Morgoth Bauglir 06-09-2003 07:52 PM

ok good i thought so!Im still a failure though lol!I remembered that part where manwe tells him to go and help defeat sauron. and then he pussies out and tells manwe hes scared and too weak [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and then manwe says thats all the more reason to go

thanks everyone!

Aragost 06-11-2003 01:45 PM

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Pupil Of Nienna (?)
Didn't Yavanna teach him discipline

Aragost 06-11-2003 01:49 PM

Maybe I'm Wrong

Beren87 06-12-2003 12:55 PM

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There are here also some rough tables relating the names of the Istari to the names of the Valar: Olorin to Manwë and Varda, Curumo to Aulë, Aiwendil to Yavanna, Alatar to Oromë, and Pallando also to Oromë
So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway. He was taught much by Nienna, including discipline.

Yavanna did not interact with Olorin all that much. Aiwendil was the pupil of Yavanna.

[ June 12, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 06-12-2003 10:13 PM

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So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway.
Maia of Manwë, honestly.

[ June 13, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

Beren87 06-13-2003 11:20 AM

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Maia of Manwë, honestly.
Hey, Gandalf may have Multiple-Personality Disorder. He could be more than one person.

Thanks [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]


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